Taxes and productivity?

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My tutor in economics last year who I converse with occasionally, and is a right down the middle centrist like @Domingo Halliburton said some shyt like tax increases generally have a very significant negative effect on worker motivation and subsequently productivity. I asked for a link and he wasn't able to provide one :rudy: I realised after that the obvious follow up should have been what is the supposed breakdown per income bracket. I doubt there is much of a statistically significant effect on top earners since they are already recieving such a large amount
 
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My tutor in economics last year who I converse with occasionally, and is a right down the middle centrist like @Domingo Halliburton said some shyt like tax increases generally have a very significant negative effect on worker motivation and subsequently productivity. I asked for a link and he wasn't able to provide one :rudy: I realised after that the obvious follow up should have been what is the supposed breakdown per income bracket. I doubt there is much of a statistically significant effect on top earners since they are already recieving such a large amount

I haven't really looked for evidence to back this up but i thought the general theory was that a tax increase is a disincentive to work more.

But I guess you could argue you now have less income coming in so you have to work more to get the same amount of money you got before.

Then you'd probably have to start talking about Laffer curves to see where the optimal amount of taxation would be.
 

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Unless I'm completely misreading it the first link (last page of it has a table summarising conclusions) is advocating for significantly regressive income taxes :dahell:
How inconvenient :skip:

Then you'd probably have to start talking about Laffer curves to see where the optimal amount of taxation would be.

U know why they call it the Laffer curve... cause its a fukking joke lmao. Charts with no formulas or numeric values = useless. We have no idea where on the curve we are or what is ideal.
 

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I haven't really looked for evidence to back this up but i thought the general theory was that a tax increase is a disincentive to work more.

But I guess you could argue you now have less income coming in so you have to work more to get the same amount of money you got before.

Then you'd probably have to start talking about Laffer curves to see where the optimal amount of taxation would be.
I'm not sure it would be disputable that there is some sort of effect overall for really low income earners and the working class, even some of the middle class, I'm just wondering to what degree. I just find it hard to believe it would be this huge effect that this person portrayed it as, especially since he seemed to be implying it was mostly universal including at the top
 

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How inconvenient :skip:



U know why they call it the Laffer curve... cause its a fukking joke lmao. Charts with no formulas or numeric values = useless. We have no idea where on the curve we are or what is ideal.

I wouldn't say that. The more you tax rich people the more they find ways to hide it eroding some of the effectiveness of the tax raise.
 

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I wouldn't say that. The more you tax rich people the more they find ways to hide it eroding some of the effectiveness of the tax raise.
Or the more you disincentivize earning more money. Nobody would do overtime if it got taxed at 95%.

People need to focus more on using govt to solve problems instead of getting in the next man's pockets. :mjlol: @ getting angry a link didn't confirm ones bias :dead:
 

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Income tax is often regarded as a major disincentive for work imposed by a government. In theory, when income tax rises, people’s income decreases and therefore people work more to maintain the living standard, known as income effect, but at the same time they substitute away from work to leisure because the opportunity cost of work is now lower, known as substitution effect. Hence, theoretically, the direction of the overall change is ambiguous. Nevertheless it is generally assumed empirically that income tax overall decreases work effort. However, this approach implicitly assumes that people’s work is rewarded by their absolute incomes. But this may not be the case. This paper presents three models that consider other factors that may affect people’s work decision. The first model looks at consumption. The second model considers the case where people’s productivity is affected by the society’s income equality and the third model takes the idea from comparison income effect, which argues that people’s satisfaction is determined by relative income rather than absolute income. The second and the third models take into account past papers’ results. In all cases the models suggest that redistribution or income tax alone can improve the overall work effort in a society when the initial income inequality is high. The three models are entirely original. This paper also provides empirical tests with two data sets from the OECD countries and other countries in general. Taking a long term economic growth rate as a measure of people’s work effort, this paper finds strong empirical support for the second model. I will first present in Section 2 the thought experiment that led me to investigate the relationship between income tax and work effort. Section 3 will therefore review past papers about the impact of income tax on work effort. Section 4 will present the models with reference to the past papers on which the models are based. Section 5 will examine the hypotheses for the first and the second models. Section 6 will discuss and conclude the results.

this paper seems to support the op but it looks like it was done by some undergrad and seems pretty speculative.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/undergraduate/module-list/furukawa.pdf
 
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