Taxes and productivity?

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Bruh I have pleaded with @Napoleon not to dap me numerous times, I dont control that dude.

I just want people who want to make private wealth a punitive offense to stop pretending to want "what's good" for the working class. That's all. Just be honest. You don't like wealth or capitalists and you want the govt to cut them down. That shyt has nothing to do with equality or anything of the sort. From there we can have meaningful conversations.
I'm not sure how we can have a meaningful conversation if you make inaccurate assertions like that :yeshrug: there are numerous "rich" people whose wealth I have absolutely no issue with. Dismissing it as anti wealth or "anti capitalist" is just a deflection.
 

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I'm not sure how we can have a meaningful conversation if you make inaccurate assertions like that :yeshrug: there are numerous "rich" people whose wealth I have absolutely no issue with. Dismissing it as anti wealth or "anti capitalist" is just a deflection.
What rich people don't you have an issue with? You have regularly taken aim at the 1% w/no qualifications or exceptions, assigning misplaced stereotypes and attributes to them to boot :francis:
 

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What rich people don't you have an issue with? You have regularly taken aim at the 1% w/no qualifications or exceptions, assigning misplaced stereotypes and attributes to them to boot :francis:
Before I name some I hope you aren't labelling advocating for increased taxes as "taking issue with them"?
 

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Before I name some I hope you aren't labelling advocating for increased taxes as "taking issue with them"?
Advocating for tax hikes on the rich for no other reason than the fact that you feel they have too much is most definitely taking issue with them.

No matter how many times you repeat it the path to solving the problems of the working class is not through punitive taxation of the rich. There is no specific problem the poor face that higher marginal rates will solve, and it's downright irresponsible to ignore the potential economic effects of such action.
 

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I just find it funny that there is no way to help the poor without making private wealth and the processes and incentives to acquire it punitive offenses. Are there really no better or other ways to help the poor accumulate wealth than punitive measures against the "1%"?
 

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Poor gonna stay poor, rich gonna stay rich and overtaxed & dwindling middle class gonna stay overtaxed & dwindling middle class.

True or false?
 

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None of this sh*t matters when you have goons in congress working with goons in corporate to take ALL the chips on the table. It's only significant when everyone is playing by the agreed-upon rules.

But please, continue discussing theories that only exist in vacuums :sas2:
 
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I just find it funny that there is no way to help the poor without making private wealth and the processes and incentives to acquire it punitive offenses. Are there really no better or other ways to help the poor accumulate wealth than punitive measures against the "1%"?
The main goal of high tax rate on the super rich is to reduce inequality and the concentration of wealth at the very top, this is not about generating revenue to help the poor (high taxation on the super rich doesn't generate enough money for that anyway).
In an uncontrolled free market the rich are just going to get richer, there are just really strong natural divergent forces that can only be counteracted by taxation (as it was in the US in the post war years) or a cataclysmic destruction of capital (as experienced in Europe during the 2 world wars), this is backed up by a whole lot of data, but I'm sure you can sense that it's generally right that making money is easier when you have money.

People who advocate such tax rates think that such high concentration of power and wealth in a small group of people is bad for the country, especially when we're dealing with dynastic amounts of money here (so you have a system that rewards people just just from coming out of the the right vagina) since they're able to wield unproportional amount of influence on our political system and since such divergence reduces social mobility which is bad both morally and practically.

I personally tend to agree with those people that such inequality is problematic, but at the same time, I think taxation is merely a band-aid on a much bigger problem.
 
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