Tea Party Republican Defends Being on Medicaid While Opposing Medicaid

[DEAD7]

You obviously know nothing of the pay structures of medical insurance. State Insurance (Medicaid) and age insurance (Medicare) pay less than commercial insurances, who in turn lower their pay rates. If anything, they have a deflationary effect on costs.

Honestly, I just need to come to grips with the fact that $$$$ is the only cost recognized by liberals. Its a recurring theme in multiple discussions.

That said, you don't need to raise prices to have a monopoly. You can be helping people, providing the lowest cost and still be a monopoly. That's neither here nor there.

@ wal-mart doing the same thing(lowering cost) and being called a monopoly(which it isnt) and despised.

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

Honestly, I just need to come to grips with the fact that $$$$ is the only cost recognized by liberals. Its a recurring theme in multiple discussions.

That said, you don't need to raise prices to have a monopoly. You can be helping people, providing the lowest cost and still be a monopoly. That's neither here nor there.

I guess there's other ways to measure cost than money. Care to enlighten me?


I'm not a liberal, conservative or libertarian. I think all ideologies have good and bad points, but i know that politicians are inherently corrupt and are just puppets for their money masters.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

All gov. assistance is bad or overreaching until they need it. Oh, or it's not the same when they do it.





Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Hypocrites.

This nikka did not just....nevermind.

 

[Robbie3000]

It's unfettered corporatism(which in practice is the same thing). Govt pulling the strings of private companies.

As a simple exercise, ask yourself this: what low cost insurer is there to compete against Medicare/Medicaid?

What the fukk are you talking about? This man is using medicaid as a choice. If he didn't want to use medicaid, he could get private insurance.

 

[DEAD7]

What the fukk are you talking about? This man is using medicaid as a choice. If he didn't want to use medicaid, he could get private insurance.

How much does medicaid cost the average person who qualifies for it(the out of pocket expense)?

 

[Brown_Pride]

These dudes have no morals. I love how he tries to liken participating in a government program to FOLLOWING THE FUKIN LAW.

 

[The Real]

So government creates these monopolies(which obamacare will become as well) so there are no other options, and then points at people who use it like "see you support it"...

So a wealthy politician has no other options?

 

[DEAD7]

So a wealthy politician has no other options?

Oh your just talking about the 1% ...


Makes sense

 

[The Real]

Oh your just talking about the 1% ...

Makes sense

No, I'm talking about more typically wealthy people. The average House of Representatives member makes about $650,000 a year (of which their gov. salary is only maybe $170,000.) Do you think he has no choice but to use Medicaid for his family? And let's assume he was only making $170,000. Would he then have no choice? I'm wondering at what income level you think the choice is lost, since you seem to be defending this man.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

It's unfettered corporatism(which in practice is the same thing). Govt pulling the strings of private companies.

As a simple exercise, ask yourself this: what low cost insurer is there to compete against Medicare/Medicaid?

It's not, at all. For starters, a monopoly = no other options. Most Americans don't even have access to Medicaid I.e. instead of it being the only option, it isn't an option at all. So right off the jump you don't know what you're talking about.

If you actually stopped to flesh out the right wing talking points you seem to spew w/o thought you prob wouldn't be so quick to c00n for the GOP w/such vigor. You heard someone say "Medicare is a monopoly" and ran with it

 

[DEAD7]

It's not, at all. For starters, a monopoly = no other options. Most Americans don't even have access to Medicaid I.e. instead of it being the only option, it isn't an option at all. So right off the jump you don't know what you're talking about.

If you actually stopped to flesh out the right wing talking points you seem to spew w/o thought you prob wouldn't be so quick to c00n for the GOP w/such vigor. You heard someone say "Medicare is a monopoly" and ran with it

The GoP has nothing to do with it, and I acknowledged there were options.

Medicare’s market leverage enables it to purchase medical care much more cheaply than private insurers do, and the government uses this clout to drive down prices as a way of controlling costs. Because Medicare represents such a large share of the overall insurance market, hospitals and doctors typically treat Medicare patients even when they might refuse to accept a patient from a private insurer paying the same rate. In theory you are right, in practice, for the poor and the elderly, it is very much a monopoly.

But I could be wrong,name the companies competing against government in low cost insurance and i'll check it out. you could right and the state is getting a run for its money somewhere.

 

[DEAD7]

obamacare makes the argument obsolete anyways

 

[Trip]

Because Medicare represents such a large share of the overall insurance market, hospitals and doctors typically treat Medicare patients even when they might refuse to accept a patient from a private insurer paying the same rate.

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This is accurate.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Why am I in there? I advocate socialist policies. Anyone who posts here will tell you that. I'm against the ACA because it's a Republican corporate plan, created by Republicans, funded by health insurance companies and stifles the progress towards universal health care.

So, again, why am I there?

U know what I had u confused with @Trip

 

[Trip]

U know what I had u confused with @Trip

What's currently competing with Medicare?

My grandmother is a staunch ignorant republican but collects her state NY pension and is on medicare....there's no other option. In theory its hypocritical but...