Teacher quits to work at Walmart for 12k raise

[Luke Cage]

When people are talking about teachers being underpaid, they are talking about public schools. Which are the only schools relevant to most of us. Increasing teacher pay won't change tuition for a single student there because tuition is free.

They not gonna increase teacher pay unless they are private school though.
my whole point is you have to come out your own pocket and pay tuition if you want your teacher to earn more money.
Hence the reason why i said i no longer complain about this.

 

[Sterling Archer]

If mediocre, incompetent teachers were being "rewarded" for doing little work, it would be the easiest to fill job in the city. People would be moving in from all over to get cushy jobs in Chicago.

The fact that they can't fill those positions is proof that you're full of shyt. How do you expect them to actually attract the level of candidate capable of doing a good job if they don't pay a salary commiserate with the difficulty, stress, and skill level required to do that sort of work?

Youre doing too much. I didnt say it was cushy. And its still Chicago. And right now, because of whats going on with the union, there are larger issues in regards to filling positions than compensation. You can think im full of shyt all you want. Disagreeing isnt affecting either of us in any way.

 

[Gritsngravy]

They not gonna increase teacher pay unless they are private school though.
my whole point is you have to come out your own pocket and pay tuition if you want your teacher to earn more money.
Hence the reason why i said i no longer complain about this.

Or the feds could use the money they already have in the budget and put more towards education

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Youre doing too much. I didnt say it was cushy. And its still Chicago. And right now, because of whats going on with the union, there are larger issues in regards to filling positions than compensation. You can think im full of shyt all you want. Disagreeing isnt affecting either of us in any way.

I agree that there are other issues besides compensation. I've covered that extensively in other threads. But compensation is clearly one of the issues, as is obvious in OP.

Even in higher-paying districts like Chicago, the average reasonably competent college grad with a STEM degree or a Master's degree is going to be able to find a higher-paying job with less stress than working for CPS. And we live in a country where due to lack of social safety net, few people are willing to voluntarily accept those lower-paying jobs. If you graduate from college with a math degree, how long would you have to work in CPS before you'd be able to afford to buy your own home in Chicago? How much longer if you're trying to raise a family at the same time? shyt like that matters a lot to people. Thus even if you fix the other issues, you have to raise pay to a level commiserate with the value of a teacher to society if you want to actually get the quality of candidate you need to do the job right.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Or the feds could use the money they already have in the budget and put more towards education

Education is funded by the states. Federal department of education is rather limited comparatively, only 8% of our education funding overall comes from the feds.

There could be a massive ramp-up in the scale of federal funding for education, but it would be a hard sell when conservatives want to eliminate the department of education altogether. And red states would probably just fukk over their students by reducing their own funding in line with whatever increases the feds add.

One in-between that might work is doing an incentive program instead. Like providing X amount of funding for any districts that raise teacher salaries by X amount, similar to what NCLB did for testing.