Teachers Are Not OK

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Teachers Are Not OK

AI, ChatGPT, and LLMs "have absolutely blown up what I try to accomplish with my teaching."

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Teachers Are Not OK​

· Jun 2, 2025 at 10:08 AM

AI, ChatGPT, and LLMs "have absolutely blown up what I try to accomplish with my teaching."

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Last month, I wrote an article about how schools were not prepared for ChatGPT and other generative AI tools, based on thousands of pages of public records I obtained from when ChatGPT was first released. As part of that article, I asked teachers to tell me how AI has changed how they teach.

The response from teachers and university professors was overwhelming. In my entire career, I’ve rarely gotten so many email responses to a single article, and I have never gotten so many thoughtful and comprehensive responses.

One thing is clear: teachers are not OK.

They describe trying to grade “hybrid essays half written by students and half written by robots,” trying to teach Spanish to kids who don’t know the meaning of the words they’re trying to teach them in English, and students who use AI in the middle of conversation. They describe spending hours grading papers that took their students seconds to generate: “I've been thinking more and more about how much time I am almost certainly spending grading and writing feedback for papers that were not even written by the student,” one teacher told me. “That sure feels like bullshyt.”



Have you lost your job to an AI? Has AI radically changed how you work (whether you're a teacher or not)? I would love to hear from you. Using a non-work device, you can message me securely on Signal at jason.404. Otherwise, send me an email at jason@404media.co.

Below, I have compiled some of the responses I got. Some of the teachers were comfortable with their responses being used on the record along with their names. Others asked that I keep them anonymous because their school or school district forbids them from speaking to the press. The responses have been edited by 404 Media for length and clarity, but they are still really long. These are teachers, after all.

Robert W. Gehl, Ontario Research Chair of Digital Governance for Social Justice at York University in Toronto​

Simply put, AI tools are ubiquitous. I am on academic honesty committees and the number of cases where students have admitted to using these tools to cheat on their work has exploded.

I think generative AI is incredibly destructive to our teaching of university students. We ask them to read, reflect upon, write about, and discuss ideas. That's all in service of our goal to help train them to be critical citizens. GenAI can simulate all of the steps: it can summarize readings, pull out key concepts, draft text, and even generate ideas for discussion. But that would be like going to the gym and asking a robot to lift weights for you.

"Honestly, if we ejected all the genAI tools into the sun, I would be quite pleased."

We need to rethink higher ed, grading, the whole thing. I think part of the problem is that we've been inconsistent in rules about genAI use. Some profs ban it altogether, while others attempt to carve out acceptable uses. The problem is the line between acceptable and unacceptable use. For example, some profs say students can use genAI for "idea generation" but then prohibit using it for writing text. Where's the line between those? In addition, universities are contracting with companies like Microsoft, Adobe, and Google for digital services, and those companies are constantly pushing their AI tools. So a student might hear "don't use generative AI" from a prof but then log on to the university's Microsoft suite, which then suggests using Copilot to sum up readings or help draft writing. It's inconsistent and confusing.

I've been working on ways to increase the amount of in-class discussion we do in classes. But that's tricky because it's hard to grade in-class discussions—it's much easier to manage digital files. Another option would be to do hand-written in-class essays, but I have a hard time asking that of students. I hardly write by hand anymore, so why would I demand they do so?

I am sick to my stomach as I write this because I've spent 20 years developing a pedagogy that's about wrestling with big ideas through writing and discussion, and that whole project has been evaporated by for-profit corporations who built their systems on stolen work. It's demoralizing.

It has made my job much, much harder. I do not allow genAI in my classes. However, because genAI is so good at producing plausible-sounding text, that ban puts me in a really awkward spot. If I want to enforce my ban, I would have to do hours of detective work (since there are no reliable ways to detect genAI use), call students into my office to confront them, fill out paperwork, and attend many disciplinary hearings. All of that work is done to ferret out cheating students, so we have less time to spend helping honest ones who are there to learn and grow. And I would only be able to find a small percentage of the cases, anyway.

Honestly, if we ejected all the genAI tools into the sun, I would be quite pleased.

Kaci Juge, high school English teacher​

I personally haven't incorporated AI into my teaching yet. It has, however, added some stress to my workload as an English teacher. How do I remain ethical in creating policies? How do I begin to teach students how to use AI ethically? How do I even use it myself ethically considering the consequences of the energy it apparently takes? I understand that I absolutely have to come to terms with using it in order to remain sane in my profession at this point.

Ben Prytherch, Statistics professor​

LLM use is rampant, but I don't think it's ubiquitous. While I can never know with certainty if someone used AI, it's pretty easy to tell when they didn't, unless they're devious enough to intentionally add in grammatical and spelling errors or awkward phrasings. There are plenty of students who don't use it, and plenty who do.

LLMs have changed how I give assignments, but I haven't adapted as quickly as I'd like and I know some students are able to cheat. The most obvious change is that I've moved to in-class writing for assignments that are strictly writing-based. Now the essays are written in-class, and treated like mid-term exams. My quizzes are also in-class. This requires more grading work, but I'm glad I did it, and a bit embarrassed that it took ChatGPT to force me into what I now consider a positive change. Reasons I consider it positive:

• I am much more motivated to write detailed personal feedback for students when I know with certainty that I'm responding to something they wrote themselves.
  
• It turns out most of them can write after all. For all the talk about how kids can't write anymore, I don't see it. This is totally subjective on my part, of course. But I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of what they write in-class.
  

Switching to in-class writing has got me contemplating giving oral examinations, something I've never done. It would be a big step, but likely a positive and humanizing one.

There's also the problem of academic integrity and fairness. I don't want students who don't use LLMs to be placed at a disadvantage. And I don't want to give good grades to students who are doing effectively nothing. LLM use is difficult to police.

Lastly, I have no patience for the whole "AI is the future so you must incorporate it into your classroom" push, even when it's not coming from self-interested people in tech. No one knows what "the future" holds, and even if it were a good idea to teach students how to incorporate AI into this-or-that, by what measure are us teachers qualified?

Kate Conroy ​

I teach 12th grade English, AP Language & Composition, and Journalism in a public high school in West Philadelphia. I was appalled at the beginning of this school year to find out that I had to complete an online training that encouraged the use of AI for teachers and students. I know of teachers at my school who use AI to write their lesson plans and give feedback on student work. I also know many teachers who either cannot recognize when a student has used AI to write an essay or don’t care enough to argue with the kids who do it. Around this time last year I began editing all my essay rubrics to include a line that says all essays must show evidence of drafting and editing in the Google Doc’s history, and any essays that appear all at once in the history will not be graded.

I refuse to use AI on principle except for one time last year when I wanted to test it, to see what it could and could not do so that I could structure my prompts to thwart it. I learned that at least as of this time last year, on questions of literary analysis, ChatGPT will make up quotes that sound like they go with the themes of the books, and it can’t get page numbers correct. Luckily I have taught the same books for many years in a row and can instantly identify an incorrect quote and an incorrect page number. There’s something a little bit satisfying about handing a student back their essay and saying, “I can’t find this quote in the book, can you find it for me?” Meanwhile I know perfectly well they cannot.

I teach 18 year olds who range in reading levels from preschool to college, but the majority of them are in the lower half that range. I am devastated by what AI and social media have done to them. My kids don’t think anymore. They don’t have interests. Literally, when I ask them what they’re interested in, so many of them can’t name anything for me. Even my smartest kids insist that ChatGPT is good “when used correctly.” I ask them, “How does one use it correctly then?” They can’t answer the question. They don’t have original thoughts. They just parrot back what they’ve heard in TikToks. They try to show me “information” ChatGPT gave them. I ask them, “How do you know this is true?” They move their phone closer to me for emphasis, exclaiming, “Look, it says it right here!” They cannot understand what I am asking them. It breaks my heart for them and honestly it makes it hard to continue teaching. If I were to quit, it would be because of how technology has stunted kids and how hard it’s become to reach them because of that.

I am only 30 years old. I have a long road ahead of me to retirement. But it is so hard to ask kids to learn, read, and write, when so many adults are no longer doing the work it takes to ensure they are really learning, reading, and writing. And I get it. That work has suddenly become so challenging. It’s really not fair to us. But if we’re not willing to do it, we shouldn’t be in the classroom.

 

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Jeffrey Fisher​

The biggest thing for us is the teaching of writing itself, never mind even the content. And really the only way to be sure that your students are learning anything about writing is to have them write in class. But then what to do about longer-form writing, like research papers, for example, or even just analytical/exegetical papers that put multiple primary sources into conversation and read them together? I've started watching for the voices of my students in their in-class writing and trying to pay attention to gaps between that voice and the voice in their out-of-class writing, but when I've got 100 to 130 or 140 students (including a fully online asynchronous class), that's just not really reliable. And for the online asynch class, it's just impossible because there's no way of doing old-school, low-tech, in-class writing at all.

"I've been thinking more and more about how much time I am almost certainly spending grading and writing feedback for papers that were not even written by the student. That sure feels like bullshyt."

You may be familiar with David Graeber's article-turned-book on Bullshyt Jobs. This is a recent paper looking specifically at bullshyt jobs in academia. No surprise, the people who see their jobs as bullshyt jobs are mostly administrators. The people who overwhelmingly do NOT see their jobs as bullshyt jobs are faculty.

But that is what I see AI in general and LLMs in particular as changing. The situations I'm describing above are exactly the things that turn what is so meaningful to us as teachers into bullshyt. The more we think that we are unable to actually teach them, the less meaningful our jobs are.

I've been thinking more and more about how much time I am almost certainly spending grading and writing feedback for papers that were not even written by the student. That sure feels like bullshyt. I'm going through the motions of teaching. I'm putting a lot of time and emotional effort into it, as well as the intellectual effort, and it's getting flushed into the void.

Post-grad educator​

Last year, I taught a class as part of a doctoral program in responsible AI development and use. I don’t want to share too many specifics, but the course goal was for students to think critically about the adverse impacts of AI on people who are already marginalized and discriminated against.

When the final projects came in, my co-instructor and I were underwhelmed, to say the least. When I started digging into the projects, I realized that the students had used AI in some incredibly irresponsible ways—shallow, misleading, and inaccurate analysis of data, pointless and meaningless visualizations. The real kicker, though, was that we got two projects where the students had submitted a “podcast.” What they had done, apparently, was give their paper (which already had extremely flawed AI-based data analysis) to a gen AI tool and asked it to create an audio podcast. And the results were predictably awful. Full of random meaningless vocalizations at bizarre times, the “female” character was incredibly dumb and vapid (sounded like the “manic pixie dream girl” trope from those awful movies), and the “analysis” in the podcast exacerbated the problems that were already in the paper, so it was even more wrong than the paper itself.

In short, there is nothing particularly surprising in how badly the AI worked here—but these students were in a *doctoral* program on *responsible AI*. In my career as a teacher, I’m hard pressed to think of more blatantly irresponsible work by students.

Nathan Schmidt, University Lecturer, managing editor at ​

When ChatGPT first entered the scene, I honestly did not think it was that big of a deal. I saw some plagiarism; it was easy to catch. Its voice was stilted and obtuse, and it avoided making any specific critical judgments as if it were speaking on behalf of some cult of ambiguity. Students didn't really understand what it did or how to use it, and when the occasional cheating would happen, it was usually just a sign that the student needed some extra help that they were too exhausted or embarrassed to ask for, so we'd have that conversation and move on.

I think it is the responsibility of academics to maintain an open mind about new technologies and to react to them in an evidence-based way, driven by intellectual curiosity. I was, indeed, curious about ChatGPT, and I played with it myself a few times, even using it on the projector in class to help students think about the limits and affordances of such a technology. I had a couple semesters where I thought, "Let's just do this above board." Borrowing an idea from one of my fellow instructors, I gave students instructions for how I wanted them to acknowledge the use of ChatGPT or other predictive text models in their work, and I also made it clear that I expected them to articulate both where they had used it and, more importantly, the reason why they found this to be a useful tool. I thought this might provoke some useful, critical conversation. I also took a self-directed course provided by my university that encouraged a similar curiosity, inviting instructors to view predictive text as a tool that had both problematic and beneficial uses.

"ChatGPT isn't its own, unique problem. It's a symptom of a totalizing cultural paradigm in which passive consumption and regurgitation of content becomes the status quo"

However, this approach quickly became frustrating, for two reasons. First, because even with the acknowledgments pages, I started getting hybrid essays that sounded like they were half written by students and half written by robots, which made every grading comment a miniature Turing test. I didn't know when to praise students, because I didn't want to write feedback like, "I love how thoughtfully you've worded this," only to be putting my stamp of approval on predictively generated text. What if the majority of the things that I responded to positively were things that had actually been generated by ChatGPT? How would that make a student feel about their personal writing competencies? What lesson would that implicitly reinforce about how to use this tool? The other problem was that students were utterly unprepared to think about their usage of this tool in a critically engaged way. Despite my clear instructions and expectation-setting, most students used their acknowledgments pages to make the vaguest possible statements, like, "Used ChatGPT for ideas" or "ChatGPT fixed grammar" (comments like these also always conflated grammar with vocabulary and tone). I think there was a strong element of selection bias here, because the students who didn't feel like they needed to use ChatGPT were also the students who would have been most prepared to articulate their reasons for usage with the degree of specificity I was looking for.

This brings us to last semester, when I said, "Okay, if you must use ChatGPT, you can use it for brainstorming and outlining, but if you turn something in that actually includes text that was generated predictively, I'm sending it back to you." This went a little bit better. For most students, the writing started to sound human again, but I suspect this is more because students are unlikely to outline their essays in the first place, not because they were putting the tool to the allowable use I had designated.

ChatGPT isn't its own, unique problem. It's a symptom of a totalizing cultural paradigm in which passive consumption and regurgitation of content becomes the status quo. It's a symptom of the world of TikTok and Instagram and perfecting your algorithm, in which some people are professionally deemed the 'content creators,' casting everyone else into the creatively bereft role of the content “consumer." And if that paradigm wins, as it certainly appears to be doing, pretty much everything that has been meaningful about human culture will be undone, in relatively short order. So that's the long story about how I adopted an absolute zero tolerance policy on any use of ChatGPT or any similar tool in my course, working my way down the funnel of progressive acceptance to outright conservative, Luddite rejection.

John Dowd​

I’m in higher edu, and LLMs have absolutely blown up what I try to accomplish with my teaching (I’m in the humanities and social sciences).

Given the widespread use of LLMs by college students I now have an ongoing and seemingly unresolvable tension, which is how to evaluate student work. Often I can spot when students have used the technology between both having thousands of samples of student writing over time, and cross referencing my experience with one or more AI use detection tools. I know those detection tools are unreliable, but depending on the confidence level they return, it may help with the confirmation. This creates an atmosphere of mistrust that is destructive to the instructor/student relationship.

"LLMs have absolutely blown up what I try to accomplish with my teaching"

I try to appeal to students and explain that by offloading the work of thinking to these technologies, they’re rapidly making themselves replaceable. Students (and I think even many faculty across academia) fancy themselves as “Big Idea” people. Everyone’s a “Big Idea” person now, or so they think. “They’re all my ideas,” people say, “I’m just using the technology to save time; organize them more quickly; bounce them back and forth”, etc. I think this is more plausible for people who have already put in the work and have the experience of articulating and understanding ideas. However, for people who are still learning to think or problem solve in more sophisticated/creative ways, they will be poor evaluators of information and less likely to produce relevant and credible versions of it.

I don’t want to be overly dramatic, but AI has negatively complicated my work life so much. I’ve opted to attempt to understand it, but to not use it for my work. I’m too concerned about being seduced by its convenience and believability (despite knowing its propensity for making shyt up). Students are using the technology in ways we’d expect, to complete work, take tests, seek information (scary), etc. Some of this use occurs in violation of course policy, while some is used with the consent of the instructor. Students are also, I’m sure, using it in ways I can’t even imagine at the moment.

Sorry, bit of a rant, I’m just so preoccupied and vexed by the irresponsible manner in which the tech bros threw all of this at us with no concern, consent, or collaboration.

High school Spanish teacher, Oklahoma​

I am a high school Spanish teacher in Oklahoma and kids here have shocked me with the ways they try to use AI for assignments I give them. In several cases I have caught them because they can’t read what they submit to me and so don’t know to delete the sentence that says something to the effect of “This summary meets the requirements of the prompt, I hope it is helpful to you!”

"Even my brightest students often don’t know the English word that is the direct translation for the Spanish they are supposed to be learning"

Some of my students openly talk about using AI for all their assignments and I agree with those who say the technology—along with gaps in their education due to the long term effects of COVID—has gotten us to a point where a lot of young GenZ and Gen Alpha are functionally illiterate. I have been shocked at their lack of vocabulary and reading comprehension skills even in English. Teaching cognates, even my brightest students often don’t know the English word that is the direct translation for the Spanish they are supposed to be learning. Trying to determine if and how a student used AI to cheat has wasted countless hours of my time this year, even in my class where there are relatively few opportunities to use it because I do so much on paper (and they hate me for it!).

A lot of teachers have had to throw out entire assessment methods to try to create assignments that are not cheatable, which at least for me, always involves huge amounts of labor.

It keeps me up at night and gives me existential dread about my profession but it’s so critical to address!!!

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[cyndaquil]

We are not ready for AI but capitalism gonna capitalism. Products first react to their impact after the fact

 

[Jaguar93]

AI teachers on the way

 

[Taharqa]

I work with a lot of schools in my state and the amount of firewall changes I've done to block apps like chatgpt is crazy. I also like to check the firewall logs and see these kids try multiple times to access it. Aint gon work buddy hit the books


Another way these schools are fighting back is this next year student devices of any kind including phones are banned. This is controversial, but in my opinion, as long as schools ensure life safety(working desk phones, administration having cell phones), which they have to do anyways, I think its good for the teachers and students.

 

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I work with a lot of schools in my state and the amount of firewall changes I've done to block apps like chatgpt is crazy. I also like to check the firewall logs and see these kids try multiple times to access it. Aint gon work buddy hit the books


Another way these schools are fighting back is this next year student devices of any kind including phones are banned. This is controversial, but in my opinion, as long as schools ensure life safety(working desk phones, administration having cell phones), which they have to do anyways, I think its good for the teachers and students.

can you list the sites you blocked?

 

[RiverCity916]

Even my smartest kids insist that ChatGPT is good “when used correctly.” I ask them, “How does one use it correctly then?” They can’t answer the question. They don’t have original thoughts. They just parrot back what they’ve heard in TikToks. They try to show me “information” ChatGPT gave them. I ask them, “How do you know this is true?” They move their phone closer to me for emphasis, exclaiming, “Look, it says it right here!” They cannot understand what I am asking them.

This is bad.

There’s something a little bit satisfying about handing a student back their essay and saying, “I can’t find this quote in the book, can you find it for me?” Meanwhile I know perfectly well they cannot.

 

[Dorian Breh]

AI teachers on the way

AI teachers hallucinating telling kids Stonewall Jackson freed the slaves

I don’t think people understand how LLMs work

They are designed to trick us

They are not designed to provide answers that are true they are designed to provide answers that we like

Personally I think they should just force the kids to hand write essays in class. No I don’t think it’s the best way to evaluate intelligence in a vacuum. But you can’t cheat it with an LLM.

 

[Taharqa]

can you list the sites you blocked?

Chat, Gemini, Grok, Claude etc. Theres a lot, but these are the bigs ones I see used at schools. Next gen firewalls have a setting that blocks the majority of them. Its a repository that's updated daily from the vendor that allows for a wider block on em.

 

[SunZoo]

The school system as most of us know it is dying and it's time to let it. It was designed to create wage slaves and patriots. We we never meant to learn (or work) in such a way.

These kids are not stupid just because they don't learn what YOU want them to learn especially when AI right in front of their faces are cutting into their wage slavery options

 

[Sterling Archer]

Teachers haven’t given a shyt about performing well at their job or actually teaching kids for decades now. They’ve been able to pass kids along without having taught them shyt. Don’t act like it matters now. No child left behind destroyed us.

 

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DEEP-FRIED*

 

[Brandon M.]

I work with a lot of schools in my state and the amount of firewall changes I've done to block apps like chatgpt is crazy. I also like to check the firewall logs and see these kids try multiple times to access it. Aint gon work buddy hit the books


Another way these schools are fighting back is this next year student devices of any kind including phones are banned. This is controversial, but in my opinion, as long as schools ensure life safety(working desk phones, administration having cell phones), which they have to do anyways, I think its good for the teachers and students.

and thats why my kid who is likely smarter than ur old ass will know how to easily bypass your firewall without any detection.

 

[Hoshi_Toshi]

Tech advances happen so fast and our legislature is full of old ass crackers literally dying in office. MF’ers that were born before color TV out here writing laws for a world they can’t even recognize anymore. It’s only going to get worse. It’s like people weren’t taking it seriously now we gotta play catch up. The youth mess around with it and now the old heads trying to stop it instead of embrace it and change with the times

 

[Ducktales]

all As this semester in my graduate program. Thanks chat gpt and DeepSeek. Bypassed firewalls (easy work) , ai detection systems couldnt do anything about it. Couldn’t detect shyt, because they all are fugaze. Submitted assignments to multiple. It’s just too easy and the advanced reasoning capabilities the ai has now, even in response to the most basic prompt is far more expansive then it used to be. It takes your thought processes from your past prompts and behavior and knows how to write like you… better than you. They don’t sound as robotic as they use to. Especially once you understand machine learning and really get good at prompts. There are too many ai systems out there, for any regulation to change things up.

I respect teachers more than mostly anybody, but all they can do it use firewalls and systems like turnitin that have built in (bullshyt) ai detection . But the teachers in themselves can’t do anything else. It’s almost impossible to detect something is ai written unless the person is not good at prompts and doesnt know what obvious things give it away. Things like repetitive language or certain punctuations . Improper pronouns . Those people who get caught don’t proofread they shyt . Be having the prompts on the same paper they submit lol