Technical lyricism lost popularity because it was perfected over a decade, almost 2 decades ago.

[Dolo]

op right that shyt dead, still love DOOM tho and bump him every now and then

 

[B-Mint94]

Pun, Eminem, DOOM, Fab, Cam.

none of these fools are even close to the best lyricists ever
eminem and doom are cac cartoon rappers and cam and Fab are just corny punchline rappers
Pun is just okay

Pun was just OK? Seriously? Who are your top 5 lyricist?

 

[Easy-E]

Rappers just cannot rap, anymore.

It's a skill you work on.

Young buls rely on melody and studio tricks to make up for it.

 

[KOohbt]

The same reason guitar took over wind then synth took over guitar.

It's a natural progression. Went from mostly fun party music to serious hardcore lyrics. To flashy lyrics. To melodic lyrics. Who knows whats next but It's just best to embrace the new because the old is always there for us.

 

[The Fire]

Pun was just OK? Seriously? Who are your top 5 lyricist?

Nas Jay Electronica gfk scarface Jay z

 

[B-Mint94]

Nas Jay Electronica gfk scarface Jay z

 

[The Ruler 09]

you must be thinking of creative skill, because what defines "technical proficiency" in any field pretty much means there is a objective greatest possible outcome, and in the case of rhyming it would be the most possible rhymes one can fit into a line/verse within the English vernacular. There are only so many syllables in your raps, and depending on what you're discussing you may or may not be able to rhyme near every single syllable, or not. Creative skill definitely assists in technical skill because you need to be able to come up with the words just based on sound, but in terms of how technical skill is defined itself I feel like it can be objectively measured. The most important stat IMO would be rhyme density.

Am not sure I agree with that, technical would include things like flow, there's infinite ways to flow, not to mention melody, vocal projection, inflections, rhyme schemes, lyrical skill within a concept, the writing process itself is technical and can also be factored into the type of song/creativity as you mentioned, it's technical skill to be able to keep to a topic, wordplay, punchlines, all these things are infinite in my opinion.

They all come under the bracket of technical I feel, because technique is the actual art of rapping which encompasses a lot, writing of course, delivery etc. These are all technical skills. Maybe your personal definition is different, in which case would be a different topic.

I don't think it's merely what's the most possible rhymes that can fit in to a verse, even in that sense though I've seen latter work rival pretty much anything from the past.

From what you're saying I just think it's case of different definitions, when I hear technical I think of all the aspects.

 

[Reebok Jones]

Am not sure I agree with that, technical would include things like flow, there's infinite ways to flow, not to mention melody, vocal projection, inflections, rhyme schemes, lyrical skill within a concept, the writing process itself is technical and can also be factored into the type of song/creativity as you mentioned, it's technical skill to be able to keep to a topic, wordplay, punchlines, all these things are infinite in my opinion.

They all come under the bracket of technical I feel, because technique is the actual art of rapping which encompasses a lot, writing of course, delivery etc. These are all technical skills. Maybe your personal definition is different, in which case would be a different topic.

I don't think it's merely what's the most possible rhymes that can fit in to a verse, even in that sense though I've seen latter work rival pretty much anything from the past.

From what you're saying I just think it's case of different definitions, when I hear technical I think of all the aspects.

I feel you somewhat. To me, technicality is just the opposite of creativity. I agree that flow can also factor into technicality, but theres also a creative side to it just how there are technical/creative sides to rhyming. I would say creative would encompass anything that is subjective, or up to the opinion of others on it's quality, while technicality can be measures, exact, and definite. I mean I get you have your own definition but the dictionary literally defines it as "a point of law or a small detail of a set of rules." The other things you mentioned I would label as purely creative, because they all are based on opinion, even melody (because our music is only attuned to western ears). If someone can fairly disagree with you on the matter then I dont think it can be considered a technical aspect.

 

[KOohbt]

I feel you somewhat. To me, technicality is just the opposite of creativity. I agree that flow can also factor into technicality, but theres also a creative side to it just how there are technical/creative sides to rhyming. I would say creative would encompass anything that is subjective, or up to the opinion of others on it's quality, while technicality can be measures, exact, and definite. I mean I get you have your own definition but the dictionary literally defines it as "a point of law or a small detail of a set of rules." The other things you mentioned I would label as purely creative, because they all are based on opinion, even melody (because our music is only attuned to western ears). If someone can fairly disagree with you on the matter then I dont think it can be considered a technical aspect.

People say technical but what they mean is a ryhme scheme, subject matter, story telling and flow they like.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

I feel you somewhat. To me, technicality is just the opposite of creativity. I agree that flow can also factor into technicality, but theres also a creative side to it just how there are technical/creative sides to rhyming. I would say creative would encompass anything that is subjective, or up to the opinion of others on it's quality, while technicality can be measures, exact, and definite. I mean I get you have your own definition but the dictionary literally defines it as "a point of law or a small detail of a set of rules." The other things you mentioned I would label as purely creative, because they all are based on opinion, even melody (because our music is only attuned to western ears). If someone can fairly disagree with you on the matter then I dont think it can be considered a technical aspect.

You could be extremely technical and then not make sense doing it with regards to rhyme density. Wordplay, Flow(which rhyming is part of), Punchlines, Versatility, creativity are all better ways of measuring how good a rapper is. There is no single objective method there are a ton of variables and many rappers do things differently. There are however now a lot of sub par rappers and abysmal ones that shouldn't be in the game.

 

[Zero]

Nas Jay Electronica gfk scarface Jay z

I get a feeling you only got those names from the internet rather than actually listening to them

 

[Reebok Jones]

I get a feeling you only got those names from the internet rather than actually listening to them

Real talk anyone who puts Face in their top five most likely got the idea from someone else and wanted to seem like they're on their shyt

 

[KravenMorehead™]

I would say it lost popularity cause the elites swerved the industry in a different direction, and the majority followed the wave...

 

[Wild self]

I would say it lost popularity cause the elites swerved the industry in a different direction, and the majority followed the wave...

The music out the last 12 years ain't the wave. It doesn't sound like an organic progression at all. It's all another genre now.

 

[45123]

This is kinda true