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Steez.
Yup. If it wasn't for us having Nicky Montana in Philly. I would be screaming for us to tank to get Famous Jameis.
Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston: The comparison
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Since I don't get paid for this, I really don't go out my way to find gifs, break down film on youtube or vimeo, show you live scenarios the players succeed in and where they execute the best. With that said, thank you.
Both of these players are easier especially Teddy since I been watching his tape for three years. Winston is a tad harder due to his surrounding talent but he is an exceptional talent that throws players open more times than not. Winston like Luck could end up being a tad overrated by scouts due to their surroundings and great coaches. Let's be honest, Harbaugh is much better than Pagano.
The prospects to watch for is David Carr and Blake Bortles. Carr is similar to his bro. Excellent arm talent. Accuracy from all ranges. Poor mechanics and footwork. Questionable intangibles. Average floor with a very high ceiling. Scary that he is so similar to his brother out of college. Looking at the teams looking for QB's in the draft, he has a chance to go to a superior situation and actually develop before he is broken unlike his brother. So much of this game at that position is about confidence and composure.
Bortles is confusing to me. He looks like what we expected Jeff Driskel to be. Exceptional college QB with NFL potential. My issue is, I have seen enough game tape to break him down. Don't have enough film and honestly, I was paying more attention to Storm Johnson who is a local kid from around my way anyway.
@#1 pick - did you make this yourself? If so, props. 
Something about Jameis, I still need to see more. Just not sold, completely. I know....I know.....
....But much of the FSU offense seems to have been made easier for him. And having those big receivers like Benjamin helps him tremendously when it comes to throwing those jump balls. Winston is very accurate on those sideline routes putting it where only his guy can get it, and on the fades. But he's definitely got a team of horses around him to make things easier. That being said, I still give him credit for this year b/c Clemsons defense wasn't garbage, neither was Miami and Duke gave them fits, but he overcame. But I can't put dude at teh top after one year. He DEFINITELY has the most potential though.
I will say, if Auburn gets pressure up the middle on him you'll see him have some probs. Those are the times I recall him struggling this season and FSU's O-line seemed kinda flaky at times.
Teddy B - for those saying he hasn't faced anybody tough, you must also then give him credit for playing WITH inferior talent.
He's a very accurate passer from the games I watched. And that goes for every pass on the field. He's capable of making reads and getting the bal out in time. Needs to put on a few pounds though, IMO.
But I think he's good to go. Also, alot of a QB's success/failure depends on where they go in the NFL. People like to overlook that, but it's real.
Something about Jameis, I still need to see more. Just not sold, completely. I know....I know.....
....But much of the FSU offense seems to have been made easier for him. And having those big receivers like Benjamin helps him tremendously when it comes to throwing those jump balls. Winston is very accurate on those sideline routes putting it where only his guy can get it, and on the fades. But he's definitely got a team of horses around him to make things easier. That being said, I still give him credit for this year b/c Clemsons defense wasn't garbage, neither was Miami and Duke gave them fits, but he overcame. But I can't put dude at teh top after one year. He DEFINITELY has the most potential though.
I will say, if Auburn gets pressure up the middle on him you'll see him have some probs. Those are the times I recall him struggling this season and FSU's O-line seemed kinda flaky at times.
Teddy B - for those saying he hasn't faced anybody tough, you must also then give him credit for playing WITH inferior talent.
He's a very accurate passer from the games I watched. And that goes for every pass on the field. He's capable of making reads and getting the bal out in time. Needs to put on a few pounds though, IMO.
But I think he's good to go. Also, alot of a QB's success/failure depends on where they go in the NFL. People like to overlook that, but it's real.
Not afraid to say I missed on Foles out of college. Didn't even have him in my top 10 mainly because I rarely watched Zona that season. Seen him as a rookie since:
A. I am a Michael Vick fan.
Watched him and I seen a lot of skills and some arm talent. With that said, I seen he had good potential but what he is doing this year is amazing. I wouldn't have expected it even though I though highly of him, moreso than I did for Cousins. I don't think this is a fluke either.
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if teddy b goes to h-town they'll bounce back like the chiefs this season
Excellent post. I call Winston situation the Bradford effect. Where everything around him is NFL talent like OU with Bradford his So(RS) year. He had the best OL, WR's, TE, and running game in football. He looked to be next level. The tier above guys like Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan. But that wasn't the case. I guess you just have to look at his package.@#1 pick - did you make this yourself? If so, props.
Something about Jameis, I still need to see more. Just not sold, completely. I know....I know.....
....But much of the FSU offense seems to have been made easier for him. And having those big receivers like Benjamin helps him tremendously when it comes to throwing those jump balls. Winston is very accurate on those sideline routes putting it where only his guy can get it, and on the fades. But he's definitely got a team of horses around him to make things easier. That being said, I still give him credit for this year b/c Clemsons defense wasn't garbage, neither was Miami and Duke gave them fits, but he overcame. But I can't put dude at teh top after one year. He DEFINITELY has the most potential though.
I will say, if Auburn gets pressure up the middle on him you'll see him have some probs. Those are the times I recall him struggling this season and FSU's O-line seemed kinda flaky at times.
Teddy B - for those saying he hasn't faced anybody tough, you must also then give him credit for playing WITH inferior talent.
He's a very accurate passer from the games I watched. And that goes for every pass on the field. He's capable of making reads and getting the bal out in time. Needs to put on a few pounds though, IMO.
But I think he's good to go. Also, alot of a QB's success/failure depends on where they go in the NFL. People like to overlook that, but it's real.
The hardest QB to scout is clearly Johnny Manizel. I really really don't like him as a NFL QB. I like his talent and his elusiveness but I am not sold on Johnny Football. What about you?
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Yeah, but with Jameis, at least he will have time to grow(hopefully). Whereas Bradford was already a sophmore/junior when he had his best years. Be interesting to see how he does next season.
And for me, Johnny Football is a complete X-factor. Of course his decision making is suspect at times, but for the most part he just balls out.
I'm always surprised by how he never talks to his coaches on the sideline, never looks at the footage/print-outs of previous drive whether they scored or turned the ball over. Either he has complete control over the offense mentally or either it's a very easy offense.
I've seen him make every throw on the field, from the pocket or on the run, so..... I'm 1000% sold on him at this level, but I'd be scared if I was an NFL GM. He'd be a pick I'd just have to take an L miss out on if he became a star.
I heard he runs a 4.4 though
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Yeah, but with Jameis, at least he will have time to grow(hopefully). Whereas Bradford was already a sophmore/junior when he had his best years. Be interesting to see how he does next season.
And for me, Johnny Football is a complete X-factor. Of course his decision making is suspect at times, but for the most part he just balls out.
I'm always surprised by how he never talks to his coaches on the sideline, never looks at the footage/print-outs of previous drive whether they scored or turned the ball over. Either he has complete control over the offense mentally or either it's a very easy offense.
I've seen him make every throw on the field, so.... I'm 1000% sold on him at this level, but I'd be scared if I was an NFL GM. He'd be a pick I'd just have to take an L miss out on if he became a star.
I heard he runs a 4.4 though
at pause, didn't even notice.I agree with his talent. He is accurate, has arm talent, and mobility at a deadly rate. But inconsistent, shyt footwork, seems like he playing a spread version of backyard football. I am worried he could end up like VY. Elite college player, Good QB in the NFL for a short time period, get figured out, and then
And can he sustain his lifestyle. Some will say he is more like A.I. than VY but in the NFL which is a lot more cerebral than college, can he get away with this.
did the fukkin OP say Winston now is as good as McNabb was in his 5th NFL season???
Yes sir. I actually had some Eagles tape in VHS from HS I used to break down the footage. Winston level right now is higher than McNabb that season. That was a 12-4 season for the Eagles if I am not mistaken.did the fukkin OP say Winston now is as good as McNabb was in his 5th NFL season???
Yea..........nah bruh Jameis is sick and will be a very good qb but you can't say right now he's as good as McNabb in his fifth season. Thats fukkin stupid man
USSInsiders
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Jameis the PAWG Hunter gonna be a superstar at the next level. He got the charisma and the ability
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
There are some similarities between Bridgewater and McCoy coming out. They both have average frames; plus athleticism; quick release; good field vision and anticipation. That said, McCoy was a system quarterback. He played with superior talent out of the shotgun. Bridgewater has better pocket presence; more experience under center; a stronger arm and more consistent mechanics with and without a clean pocket. I think a QB that throws with accuracy, poise and mechanical consistency under heavy pocket pressure--with a good arm to boot-- has a high ceiling in the league. McCoy's footwork set up under pressure and not wasn't at a first round level. He threw off his back foot a lot whereas Bridgewater doesn't, partly because Bridgewater has better overall pocket movement. Texas just rolled McCoy away from pressure or had him throw out of the shot gun, and this tendency didn't help his overall development imho. Bridgewater plays his games from the pocket which makes for better NFL projection imho.
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Ronnie Lott
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I'm rootin for both of these cats to suceed. Obviously Jameis is comin back nxt year. Jameis is gonna come back even stronger and better. I wonder what round Teddy B will go in