Teen Killed While Burlarizing Home, Family Says He Was Getting Money

[MeachTheMonster]

I have plenty of sympathy for my fellow man and I won't say that there is no one who is without sin. However, certain crimes in my book are worse than others. Snatching a purse on the street and breaking into someone's house are different to me. On the street, you take the loss. In your OWN HOME, you have some strange person you don't know, don't know if they plan on killing you or what, in that case, I feel as a homeowner you have the right to take any action you deem necessary.

If you break into my house, I'm going to assume the worse that you're armed and my life is in danger. I'm not going to wait for you to produce the gun or whatever and let you get the jump on me. Once you're in my house, all bets are off. I support anyone else doing the same.

When I was a kid, I had some dude break into my grandmother's house and hold me and my grandmother hostage in the basement at knife-point. If my grandmother shot him dead, even if he didn't have the knife, she would be entirely justified. He was high on drugs and looking to fuel his habit. I was scared out of my mind because I was certain I may die that night.

There's plenty of ways to protect your home without killing someone. Even if you had to shoot them.

you're talking about the value of material things, I am not. Breaking into someone's sanctuary, simply the act of brute forcing your way in is an offense that I believe should be met with extreme violence.

99% of gang violence is due to this same line of thinking.

Condone behaving like a crip brehs

 

[Matt504]

There's plenty of ways to protect your home without killing someone. Even if you had to shoot them.



99% of gang violence is due to this same line of thinking.

Condone behaving like a crip brehs

the difference is that gangs don't own the property they kill people over and that property is public property available for the public to roam freely, such is not the case with private property, if you break in someone else home, you're not supposed to be there under ANY circumstances and in my opinion should be subject to death.

 

[Dr. Acula]

There's plenty of ways to protect your home without killing someone. Even if you had to shoot them.



99% of gang violence is due to this same line of thinking.

Condone behaving like a crip brehs

I'm assuming you're talking about the "aim for a limb" argument for non-lethal force.

This isn't the movies. If you ever learn to use a firearm, they tell you to aim for the most accessible and widest target to ensure you hit. Aiming for a limb of someone in a high intensity situation with a target that is moving is very hard to do. That takes some incredible aim and you'll more times than not will miss. No one has time in such a situation to weigh those options. You aim for the torso or don't even bother shooting at all. This isn't a sniper shot situation.

Like I said...easy solution here. Don't break into anyone's house.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

the difference is that gangs don't own the property they kill people over and that property is public property available for the public to roam freely, such is not the case with private property, if you break in someone else home, you're not supposed to be there under ANY circumstances and in my opinion should be subject to death.

Nah they "own" much of what they are fighting over

And are you saying Renters shouldn't get killing privileges?

Still paying a mortgage? No killing privileges?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm assuming you're talking about the "aim for a limb" argument for non-lethal force.

This isn't the movies. If you ever learn to use a firearm, they tell you to aim for the most accessible and widest target to ensure you hit. Aiming for a limb of someone in a high intensity situation with a target that is moving is very hard to do. That takes some incredible aim and you'll more times than not will miss. No one has time in such a situation to weigh those options. You aim for the torso or don't even bother shooting at all. This isn't a sniper shot situation.

Like I said...easy solution here. Don't break into anyone's house.

Same reason police out here killing unarmed citizens

 

[Soon]

It's not only about the loss of property. The act of someone breaking into your house in itself is traumatizing. People view their home as their sanctuary and to break in is a violation. Especially if said person is home. It's for this very reason that I have little sympathy instead of the loss of property. Can't even feel safe at the place where you spend most of your life. Especially since most burglars aren't as saintly as you and breaks in while people are home armed. People become scared of the slightest sound in their home and wondering if someone is breaking in.


Sick of dudes presenting this shyt as some Aladdin or les miserable shyt like you're stealing a loaf of bread and literally your stomach is caved in for lack of food. Nah most of these dudes are not starving and well fed. They just give in to a desire for instant gratification and desire to make a quick buck. There is no immediate need for money just greed and lack of care for how that impacts others.


Easy solution to not getting shot. Don't break into someone's home. Period. Otherwise fukk em.

She is not wrong.

And I wouldn't hesitate shooting someone if that was my only option. But if he is outside my house, I'm letting him bounce. If he unarmed in my house, as long as he can follow commands he can bounce or he can lie on his stomach with his arms & legs crossed while I call police.

I had about 3 break ins (2 when I was in high school living at home), I felt nothing afterwards, I just considered it a loss. But I can understand someone feeling traumatized.

 

[Matt504]

Nah they "own" much of what they are fighting over

And are you saying Renters shouldn't get killing privileges?

Still paying a mortgage? No killing privileges?

A block is not a private residence. A rental is not public property, if you break into someones home, you should be prepared to die.

 

[Dr. Acula]

She is not wrong.

And I wouldn't hesitate shooting someone if that was my only option. But if he is outside my house, I'm letting him bounce. If he unarmed in my house, as long as he can follow commands he can bounce or he can lie on his stomach with his arms & legs crossed while I call police.

I had about 3 break ins (2 when I was in high school living at home), I felt nothing afterwards, I just considered it a loss. But I can understand someone feeling traumatized.

I think we can all look at each individual circumstance in hindsight and say given xyz circumstance the person should of taken option abc instead option def. However, despite whether a better option could of been taken when look at the situation in hindsight, my personal feeling on the matter is to always fall on the side of the homeowner because it was only them and the person breaking in at the time and no one else. I feel you have a right to do what you want in your own home especially if someone is breaking into it. I can make a personal judgment that "hey maybe they could of handled that differently" but at the end of the day, its their home and you never know how a random stranger is going to take someone breaking into their home.

Like you said, in your case, you felt nothing while say if you break into a lady's home down the street who maybe was attacked in her home in a previous attempt, she obviously going to have a different reaction. That is the unknown about the whole situation that gets introduced when you break into people's home. The person breaking in doesn't know anything about the person they're stealing from and the person who is getting bugularized has no idea what the robber's intentions are. They don't know if he maybe doesn't want to leave any witnesses or what. You don't know. So I'm all in favor of leaving it up to the homeowner's discretion.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Condone dead kids due to afraid adults brehs

 

[Matt504]

Condone dead kids due to afraid adults brehs

If you don't break into someones home you don't have to fear being killed for breaking into someone's home.

 

[Soon]

I think we can all look at each individual circumstance in hindsight and say given xyz circumstance the person should of taken option abc instead option def. However, despite whether a better option could of been taken when look at the situation in hindsight, my personal feeling on the matter is to always fall on the side of the homeowner because it was only them and the person breaking in at the time and no one else. I feel you have a right to do what you want in your own home especially if someone is breaking into it. I can make a personal judgment that "hey maybe they could of handled that differently" but at the end of the day, its their home and you never know how a random stranger is going to take someone breaking into their home.

Like you said, in your case, you felt nothing while say if you break into a lady's home down the street who maybe was attacked in her home in a previous attempt, she obviously going to have a different reaction. That is the unknown about the whole situation that gets introduced when you break into people's home. The person breaking in doesn't know anything about the person they're stealing from and the person who is getting bugularized has no idea what the robber's intentions are. They don't know if he maybe doesn't want to leave any witnesses or what. You don't know. So I'm all in favor of leaving it up to the homeowner's discretion.

Break ins are no joke, and homeowners have been assaulted, raped, or killed.

So I don't have any sympathy for this kid. None, whatsoever.

And confronting a burglar is dangerous, they recommend call the cops and keep your distance. You hear noise in another room, grab your firearm, get the cops on the phone, and kindly ask the person to leave the way he came in from a distance.

So, its up to the homeowner's discretion.

 

[Imhotep2]

There's plenty of ways to protect your home without killing someone. Even if you had to shoot them.



99% of gang violence is due to this same line of thinking.

Condone behaving like a crip brehs

If you break into my home with the intent to rob me or inflict personal harm onto me or my people and take what I worked my ass off to have and put my family at risk and traumatize them for the rest of their lives, then I will pull my gun out, aim at your head, and kill you without any mercy and go to sleep that night with a clear conscious .

Ask the family of Sean Taylor what it's like to have your home invaded

Want to lower your chances of being killed while committing a home invasion by 100%?...Don't commit home invasions .

Seems like common sense but I guess common sense ain't too common anymore.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

If you don't break into someones home you don't have to fear being killed for breaking into someone's home.

Yeah. Sounds good on your keyboard, I know.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

If you break into my home and take what I worked my ass off to have and put my family at risk and traumatize them for the rest of their lives, then I will pull my gun out, aim at your head, and kill you without any mercy and go to sleep that night with a clear conscious .

Ask the family of Sean Taylor that bullshyt of "is taking a life worth it over property" and they'll more than likely say yes.

Want to lower your chances of being killed while committing a home invasion?...Don't commit home invasions .

Seems like common sense but I guess common sense ain't too common anymore.

Yeah. Kill kill kill.

Protect your families emotions by blowing someone's head off in your living room

I'm sure your wife will apreciate you while she cleans th blood splatters off the wall and signs the kids up for counseling

 

[Imhotep2]

Yeah. Kill kill kill.

Protect your families emotions by blowing someone's head off in your living room

I'm sure your wife will apreciate you while she cleans th blood splatters off the wall and signs the kids up for counseling

I'd Rather have my wife cleaning up the blood splatters of the thief than to have the coroner's clean the blood splatters of hers and mine.