Tennessee to fire Butch Jones

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Why would yall want Gruden

Super bowl winning coach. Instant credibility. Recruiting would be on fire. Everyone knows him. He could assemble and top notch staff cause he's respected and got connects all over the NFL.

Jon Gruden would be a home run hire and instantly make Tennessee a superpower in college football once again.
 
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What's a realistic expectation for UT? Should they be perennial NC contenders or be an occasional 10 win program?

Go and look up the instate talent in the state of Tennessee for the classes of 2019 and 2020. There is more talent in the state of Tennessee right now than in every other state in the country except for Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California.

If Tennessee becomes the #5 most talent laden state for recruits ahead of Louisiana, then UT should expect to be a perennial NC title contender.

There is too much talent in the state of Tennessee now for there to be any expectations short of being a NC title contender. This ain't the Tennessee of 5-10 years ago where they needed to get talent from other states. Tennessee can now build a championship contender from instate recruits like LSU.
 

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Super bowl winning coach. Instant credibility. Recruiting would be on fire. Everyone knows him. He could assemble and top notch staff cause he's respected and got connects all over the NFL.

Jon Gruden would be a home run hire and instantly make Tennessee a superpower in college football once again.

Ya'll keep hollering bout Gruden, nobody younger than 27 probably knows who the fukk dude is. That nikka name don't ring no bells outside of being that guy that does the monday night football broadcast.
 

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How many millions did they pay him? He's probably best for life.
 

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How many millions did they pay him? He's probably best for life.
they said he has a 8mil buyout but he has to make reasonable effort to get another job after the buyout, his assistant's salary is guaranteed for next year.
 

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Super bowl winning coach. Instant credibility. Recruiting would be on fire. Everyone knows him. He could assemble and top notch staff cause he's respected and got connects all over the NFL.

Jon Gruden would be a home run hire and instantly make Tennessee a superpower in college football once again.
The stars aligned perfectly for that dude, not to mention the fact that the Raiders went to the Super Bowl practically running the offense that he established. Couple that with the defense that he had and you get that win. Don't think he made it out the first round again after that...:francis:
 

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The stars aligned perfectly for that dude, not to mention the fact that the Raiders went to the Super Bowl practically running the offense that he established. Couple that with the defense that he had and you get that win. Don't think he made it out the first round again after that...:francis:
Exactly won a super bowl with Dungy's team and never did anything after that except run Cadillac into the ground, fukk over a countless number of marginal QBs, never develop anything worth a damn offensively, and let the ATG defense get old without maintaining it.

He is a shyt HC
 

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Damn, looking like 6 SEC coaches are getting out of the paint this year. I'm counting Hugh Freeze for the hell of it. McElwain and Jones are are already gone. Bielema, Sumlin and Mason are most likely fired or resigning after the season.

I guess if you're a highly touted coach, you take these jobs for the check, but it's going to be difficult to meet expectations. UF and Tenn we're always recognized as great jobs, but are they still? You can't just go to these teenagers that live in and close to the state and say "We're *insert team here*, and we think you'd be a great fit for our team and tradition." A lot of these kids could give a fukk about tradition. All these universities and boosters want Bama results (except a few) but fail to realize how insane of a worker Saban is at getting these five star recruits to come to Tuscaloosa of all fukking places.
 

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Damn, looking like 6 SEC coaches are getting out of the paint this year. I'm counting Hugh Freeze for the hell of it. McElwain and Jones are are already gone. Bielema, Sumlin and Mason are most likely fired or resigning after the season.

I guess if you're a highly touted coach, you take these jobs for the check, but it's going to be difficult to meet expectations. UF and Tenn we're always recognized as great jobs, but are they still? You can't just go to these teenagers that live in and close to the state and say "We're *insert team here*, and we think you'd be a great fit for our team and tradition." A lot of these kids could give a fukk about tradition. All these universities and boosters want Bama results (except a few) but fail to realize how insane of a worker Saban is at getting these five star recruits to come to Tuscaloosa of all fukking places.

everyone knows how hard a worker Saban is, a lot of these coaches don't have any work ethic, have a crazy since of entitlement, and don't constantly seek to improve and stay ahead of the game. There is a reason Urban Myers has success in UF and OSU. You look at a guy like Freeze, buying escorts on the school phone. Stupid shyt.
Petrino dating your mistress and relaxing on a sunday morning motorcycle ride. McElwain unable to deal with the pressure, unorganized staff. I remember the story of a recruit talking about visiting UF and McElwain forgetting they invited him trying to make him pay extra money, never talking to any coach and etc, when he went to Tuscaloosa, they had everything ready for him, got to meet and talk directly with Lane Kiffin, then talked to Saban one on one and everything, decided to go to Bama. There is a lot of shyt coaches don't do, and it shows up on the field. Butch Jones is a great recruiter terrible Xs and Os coach with no feel for a game, is just out of his league in the SEC, mianly because he didn't want to hire a real OC and hand it over to him completely for ego and job security.

That said Sumlin is already one of the best coaches Texas A&M has had especially to do what he has done in the SEC. Never before have they have this length of success where they routinely win 9 maybe 10 games, and he is doing this in the SEC. No less than 8 wins a season in the SEC and having to go against Bama, LSU, and Auburn every year in the SEC West, at a 2nd rate school . A&M is a school that doesn't know how good they have it
 
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