Terrell Davis has no business being in the NFL hall of fame

[murksiderock]

Where y'all stand on Derrick Henry and Frank Gore

Derrick Henry is the greatest running back of his generation. First ballot, no question...

Was Gore even Top 5 of his era? Off top of my head, just in alphabetical order:

Jamaal Charles, Arian Foster, Maurice Jones-Drew, Marshawn Lynch, Lesean McCoy, Adrian Peterson

Were ALL better players than Gore. Only mf I'd even debate Gore with is MJD, all these other guys were clearly better players when we saw the best versions of Gore...

It's not an either/or thing regarding peak/prime vs longevity. You can aptly balance the weight of both...

Gore was not GREAT enough to be a Hall Of Famer, regardless of how many years he played...

Davis was great enough with arguably the highest peak ever, but he didn't sustain a long enough prime. Those are my standards though, clearly The Hall disagreed with me, and plenty of yall aid these mf's turning Canton into the Hall of Very Good...

If a Hall of Fame player IS NOT someone who leads a team to multiple championships then there shouldn’t be a damn Hall of Fame.

He had a 3-year run. An incredible 3-year run but it was still only 3 years. They've set a precedent that you only need to be great for a tiny window to make it to Canton, and they've continued to lower the bar. They let Warner in, they are gonna let Eli in...

Terrell Davis should NOT be in the Hall of Fame!

 

[who_better_than_me]

Priest Holmes should be in the hall of fame.

Chris Johnson says hi

 

[BrehWyatt]

Absolutely not.

There is not way he gets in on the first ballot, and he may not even make it.

Considering he's accomplished the following:

- 3rd all-time in rushing yards.
- Is one of 5 players ever with 9-1,000 yard seasons.
- 12 straight seasons of 1200+ yards from scrimmage, the first player to exhibit this level of consistent production.
- Member of an All-Decade team.
- Holds the NFL record for most games played by a RB, a position notorious for short careers.

He's going. Is he the best back of his day? No. And for me, I think a HOF player should be able to make that argument. But he's accomplished things that most of the greats haven't even sniffed, so I'll give a pass on the first thing.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get in first ballot, and the fact of the matter is that getting in on the first ballot doesn't really mean that much considering some of the players who didn't get in first ballot, like T.O., Cris Carter, Brian Dawkins, Fran Tarkenton, John Randle, etc.

First-ballot, based on my definition, basically means he's a lock for it. Frank Gore's a lock on numbers alone. Worrying about one player getting in early and ruining the "sanctity" of the HOF isn't worth the trouble.

 

[murksiderock]

Considering he's accomplished the following:

- 3rd all-time in rushing yards.
- Is one of 5 players ever with 9-1,000 yard seasons.
- 12 straight seasons of 1200+ yards from scrimmage, the first player to exhibit this level of consistent production.
- Member of an All-Decade team.
- Holds the NFL record for most games played by a RB, a position notorious for short careers.

He's going. Is he the best back of his day? No. And for me, I think a HOF player should be able to make that argument. But he's accomplished things that most of the greats haven't even sniffed, so I'll give a pass on the first thing.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get in first ballot, and the fact of the matter is that getting in on the first ballot doesn't really mean that much considering some of the players who didn't get in first ballot, like T.O., Cris Carter, Brian Dawkins, Fran Tarkenton, John Randle, etc.

First-ballot, based on my definition, basically means he's a lock for it. Frank Gore's a lock on numbers alone. Worrying about one player getting in early and ruining the "sanctity" of the HOF isn't worth the trouble.

He shouldn't get in because he wasn't one of the best players at his position even at his peak...

 

[BrehWyatt]

He shouldn't get in because he wasn't one of the best players at his position even at his peak...

Well, he was named to the NFL's 2010s All-Decade Team. Which has Shady McCoy, Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch on it.

So I guess he was among the best in the game at his position for a while.

 

[Regular_P]

if anyone benefited from scheme its Davis. every shanahan RB got 1000 yards
even the likes of Olandis Gary and Mike Andersen who was a 27 year old rookie lol


i was just being hyperbolic with kupp lol

To add even more context to this, because it's always necessary in Terrell Davis discussions, Gary and Anderson did it with Brian Griese as their quarterback, not John Elway.

Clinton Portis also has to be mentioned because his first two years in Denver (2002-03) were sensational behind that line. 1,508 with 15 TDs as a rookie and 1,591 with 14 TDs in year two. Averaged 5.5 ypc both seasons. He got dealt to Washington for Champ Bailey and his career was never the same.

Portis still put up numbers, but he never averaged more than 4.3 ypc and he was at 3.8 his first year in DC. There was an abrupt difference in his production as soon as he left Denver. The same thing woulda happened to Davis if he played anywhere besides Denver and that godly line/zone blocking run scheme.

 

[Belize King]

Flash in the pan.

4 really great years. But that’s it.

The only difference between Terrell Davis and a guy like Jamaal Charles is that Charles wasn’t fortunate enough to play on a stacked team with a HOF quarterback.

You all scoff at the idea of comparing those two but they each basically had 4 year careers in terms of effectiveness.

True.

Honestly, the HOF is ahead of its time. Imagine trying to justify a running back after Henry.

Running backs aren’t hitting 10K in yards anymore. If you want them in, it will be for their peak 3-5 years IE T. Davis. Otherwise, getting a running back will be as hard as getting a kicker or punter.

Shout out to Justin Tucker.

 

[Art Barr]

I've been making this argument for well over a dozen years. Letting him in, and Warner, lowered the bar for what a Hall Of Famer should be...

Chu heavily tweak'n

Warner is the greatest rampup player all time.
In any sport all time too.

Art Barr

 

[Eddie Brock]

TD one of the best RB’s I’ve ever seen in my life. He was hands down the best player on those Broncos SB squads even Elway will tell you that. At his peak it’s hard to find a better RB

 

[BrehWyatt]

TD one of the best RB’s I’ve ever seen in my life. He was hands down the best player on those Broncos SB squads even Elway will tell you that. At his peak it’s hard to find a better RB

That's what I'm saying.

Those TD-led Broncos are the reason why I believe the best offensive system I've ever seen is Mike Shanahan's Wide Zone version of the West Coast offense.

 

[calh45]

Frank Gore is a first-ballot hall of famer. That is it. That is all.

As far as Terrell Davis, he was the most productive back of his peak years of activity and in half the time, he racked up accolades that most RBs don't see unless they play 10+ years.

You're gonna get me in trouble with my fellow 49er fans, but Frank is the Art Monk of RBs...... He'll get in, but I don't think it's a great injustice if it takes a bit.

I think Terrell Davis is the Sterling Sharpe of RBs. Those two were projected to be THEM until injuries got them.

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

Doesnt even have 8K yards. Played on the right team in the right system at the right time. Flash in a pan. BUT, you can't tell the story of football without TD.

That would make him an Hall Of Fame player then

 

[GilSho]

Terrell Davis is a HOF for 4 good seasons but people think Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford don't belong.

 

[10bandz]

System player. Unreal four year stretch but then the Broncos got his level of production from how many different players after him? This was a Nice Guy Award.

A 1700 yd season followed with a 2000 yard, 23 total TD season? None.

 

[murksiderock]

@WhoShotCha

You can tell the story of football without Davis, be for real dawg

You're only bringing Davis up, if you bring up Elway. Those late 90s Broncos won yhe two titles and would be mentioned in a 90s-specific chapter. But that's the only way you're bringing up Davis. He's not an important enough figure to be mentioned on his own...

Nobody ever says, "Terrell Davis!", if you ask them to name the greatest running backs ever. You hear his name mentioned in Canton convos like this, or convos about great players who had their career shortened because of injury, or 90s-specific convo. Otherwise his name is never mentioned, you can absolutely tell the story of football without him...