Terrible gen continues: Sony closes Down Guerilla Cambridge
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They are shuttering unprofitable subsidiaries of major studios. Don't see the big deal
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You've been saying this all gen. Meanwhile, the PS4 is putting up PS2 numbers this gen, which is insane. This is Sony cutting the fat. Sad for the people losing their jobs, but this studio had nothing big on the way (at least that we knew of). 
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I still aint forgiven Sony for shutting Evolution like that 
PS4 needed a Motorstorm
Sony is buggin if they dont release Motorstorm remastered on PS4
PS4 needed a Motorstorm
Sony is buggin if they dont release Motorstorm remastered on PS4
Killzone: Mercenary was great. Shame to hear about this, but at least they got to release their final project before being shuttered. They have a solid track record, so I would venture to guess that most of the programmers there will land on their feet somewhere.
Sony has the most in-house studios of all the major platforms by a wide margin. Closing one off-shoot studio is not gonna kill their platform by any measure. Lotta overreaction in here.
Sony has the most in-house studios of all the major platforms by a wide margin. Closing one off-shoot studio is not gonna kill their platform by any measure. Lotta overreaction in here.
It's not the first studio they've closed this gen.
I don't know why people keep acting as if this is some isolated incident.
I bet my account they won't be the last studio Sony closes this gen either
The ps4 will not finish with higher sales than ps2 or ps1. The only one it can pass is ps3.You've been saying this all gen. Meanwhile, the PS4 is putting up PS2 numbers this gen, which is insane. This is Sony cutting the fat. Sad for the people losing their jobs, but this studio had nothing big on the way (at least that we knew of).
On top of that console sales in general including xbox and/Nintendo are WAY down.
Nobody even mentions that ps4/xbox one is selling 60% higher shyt anymore because the paths have crossed as this is when sales for those systems exploded. And it isn't happening for these 2.
I mean,people can keep pretending every time a studio closes it doesn't matter and means nothing but that's not reality.
This is a 20 year old studio. They mattered.
They were the studio that Sony chose to launch the VR with. Now theyre gone.
If Sony doesn't support VR and it just dies they are going to take a massive hit with credibility with the general audience. Closing one of the few studios they had working on VR speaks volumes
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They still have like 15+ first party studios. MS has about three and Nintendo has about four franchises you can rely on. Sony still has way more first party output than both of them combined. Absolutely nothing to be up in arms about at the moment.
I'd rather put pressure on the other two, particularly MS, to start upping the ante.You guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees.
But time will tell who's right.
If switch flops nintendo is probably done making consolesI'd rather put pressure on the other two, particularly MS, to start upping the ante.
If Scorpio flops Microsoft might stop making consoles.
People can keep acting like this is a healthy environment but it isn't.
This is how you reacted to Microsoft closing LionheadThe point isn't if those studios will make VR games, it's just that there's other devs like 2nd and 3rd party devs that can make games for VR. You said yourself it's not smart for them to invest millions of dollars into a game that may flop and end up hurting them so why would they then try and spend time investing 50M on a AAA game especially for VR?? Smaller side teams/ outsourced teams can still make games.
Edit: Studios Sony has making PSVR games: Manchester London, Media Molecule and Japan. They've also got parnterships with indies and 3rd parties. It hardly breaks the VR front.
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So then, it makes sense in a way to not keep a studio around that's not really going to make profit open right? At the end of the day, Sony is a business, not charity. I know they may come out on stage and say "For the Players!" and whatnot but if the players spending habits are changing and certain things aren't the same as they were back then on PS3/2/1 then
I guess that's why they're starting small and building up like for example VR in games like GT Sport was said to be a separate mode, probably something not as exhaustive as the main game but something that wouldn't take too much out of making the base PS4 game. From how I see it, Sony isn't worried in the VR market because no one else has a console and VR setup. They've still got a few 'big' titles for VR coming out like RE7, Ace Combat, Farpoint, Dreams etc. Notice how these titles, barring Farpoint are regular games that have a VR mode too. They're banking on keeping costs down while bring more titles to the platform.
Yeah my mistake on that one. It brings me to my point not every studio is making huge AAA games with enormous dev costs. So we don't even know how much Dreams costs to make so saying if Dreams flop then it's over is kind of premature in that we don't know the investment/profit ratio.
See my last point. You're assuming Dreams dev time/investment is some expensive
How is it bizarre? Sony still has a diverse collection of studios. We gave Microsoft shyt because they in fact don't have a diverse array of studios and we have actual proof for that.
Sony currently has 12 studios making non mobile games. PS3 gen from 2006-2013 they had 16. 4 studio difference isn't the end of the world and current studios have expanded compared to the PS3 era.
We have yesteryear to see what's been happening on this front while we can also look at what Sony has dropped and what they're dropping in the relative future. The day when we can point to Sony Santa Monica, Japan Studio, Media Molecule, Polyphonal Digital and perhaps Sony Bend all have been closed and the exclusives for the 1st parties end up being a rotation of 2-3 franchises is when we can actually worry. Right now it's a bit cynical to say they're heading in the same direction as Microsoft especially at this point when there's still so much to come on the Horizon.
You're extrapolating Sony's "strength" dwindling because of closure of a small european studio for niche platforms is a bit of a reach. I don't think it's that serious yet.
We are witnessing Xbox crumble one by one.
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You're not being honest with yourself about the situation. If this was a Microsoft studio you would have a completely different stance on this.
There is no way to brush this off as not mattering or not important.
Let's see here, are you going to argue that Guerilla Cambridge was a major player in PS4 game development? Are you saying that Lionhead Studio is on the same level as a studio making games for a peripheral for PSVR?
You're not being honest with yourself here with this reach breh. There's a big difference with "Xbox crumble one by one" when they barely have any major studios for anything game related to Sony closing a studio like GGC when they have 12 other major studios + 2nd/3rd party partnerships. Apples and Grapefruit breh. If Naughty Dog closed down and I said it don't matter that'd be a different story. Your p.o.v. is mainly coming from a scarcity, fear based position of things dying.
That would be bad, but again, Sony has invested heavily in first/second party studios for decades, far more than Nintendo and MS combined. They have been pulling their weight for a long time in the industry.
Nintendo has been infatuated with gimmick platforms instead of making modern systems with great games. MS is one of the wealthiest companies in the world, but their XBox division has been satisfied to rely on three goddamn franchises year after year. They should be crushing Sony with first party studios, but they don't give a shyt about games. They simply want a vehicle to promote other products and something that will maintain their bottom line.
How is it fear based when it's factual?Let's see here, are you going to argue that Guerilla Cambridge was a major player in PS4 game development? Are you saying that Lionhead Studio is on the same level as a studio making games for a peripheral for PSVR?
You're not being honest with yourself here with this reach breh. There's a big difference with "Xbox crumble one by one" when they barely have any major studios for anything game related to Sony closing a studio like GGC when they have 12 other major studios + 2nd/3rd party partnerships. Apples and Grapefruit breh. If Naughty Dog closed down and I said it don't matter that'd be a different story. Your p.o.v. is mainly coming from a scarcity, fear based position of things dying.
Am I making up that studios are closing?
Sony has less studios then when they started this gen. That is a fact.
Do you think no more studios will close this gen?