Terry Crews Defends Fatherhood On The View.

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What I hate most about these conversations is how people try to judge another person's life based on their life experiences. As if the amount of parents at home determines how successful in life you will be. I know so fukk boys with great fathers & mothers. I know lost nikkas being raised by their fathers, thugs with single mothers....


fukk what you beleive, some folks are just raised wrong. We take on the traits of those who raised us only we amplify it.
 

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Praising fathers doesn't take away any respect for good mothers and I wish people would understand that, instead of getting defensive.

A father provides structure, stability and support in a household. He teaches his sons what a man should be, and how to treat women. He teaches his daughters how to be loved, and they should be treated. When your father loves and respects you, you know what you deserve and you are much less likely to let any other man treat you less.

I applaud single mothers for striving to do a two person job. But that is because you are compensating for the missing person you weren't meant to do it alone.
 

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Besides basic involuntary tasks like breathing and urinating, everything is learned. But stating that father and mother roles are social constructs is a point feminists would try to make to downplay the father's role in a child's life.

Well I'm not a feminist. We're discussing sociology and social behavior.

Hunter/nurturer are social constructs writ large. It's not like humans just appeared and started working in groups to feed each other and take care of children. Males naturally have more muscle and are stronger than females, and hunted to feed themselves. Those who realized that working together was better than going solo, hence communities being formed. And those communities that worked the best lasted the longest.

Nature vs nurture brehs. Our most basic emotions are fear and anger; our most basic goals are to eat and fukk. Everything else is a social construct that works to propagate our goals.
 

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It doesn't matter who raises you, it's the quality of your upbringing and what you do with that as an adult. Being a father simply means you've reproduced. Black Americans and the whole world could stand to have more positive male role models. We need more presidents.
I DON'T AGREE. THE QUALITY OF UPBRINGING IS DETERMINED BY THE PEOPLE SO THEY DO MATTER.
 

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She didnt attack him. Stop being so dramatic. She agreed with him that having a two parent household is ideal, but if a child doesnt have a father for whatever reason then that child shouldnt be made to feel like its the end of the world, A child can still have a good upbringing, and grow to become a solid citizen with a single mother is all she was saying. It was simply a counterpoint. Damn.
nah bruh. Call a spade a spade.

She DID attack him. She definitely did.

And shes not the ordinary single mom. Shes rich.

No one was talking about her skills as a single parent...but this is the same woman who made a massive hooplah over the source of her kid's autism and now has the audacity to overcompensate with her perception of how "great" her kid is doing.

fukk outta here with that.

I'm not even talking about the outliers of kids who "make it" regardless of circumstances, but these attempts to shy Crews comments are just jedi mind tricks.

That was more than a counterpoint. It was an anecdote and meant to be a "cognitive kill switch" to kill any sort of dissent....and it wasn't dissent at all.

Crews is right. having a father CHANGES you.

Whether its a good or a bad change, it CHANGES you. You can't sidestep that point.
 

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Women have ALWAYS been nurturers ever since the Human species evolved. It was the job for the women to nurture and the man to hunt/provide. Its a natural order. But it seems liberals/feminist are trying to upset that order.

Wildly false.

Hunter/gatherer societies were equalitarian and had social parity that wasnt gender specific. Societies were organized so that the older members who couldnt hunt and perform dangerous activities anymore raised the children, while younger male and female members "provided". Hominidae's have that sort of rigid hierarchy you speak of, but its been said that resistance of that structure enabled man to evolve in the first place.

Agrarian societies featured women doing plenty of work as well. Modern 20th century industrial families developed the social construct of strict separation of female nurturer and male provider, because white males began to assert societal dominance, and the household economies permitted it. Today, how many households can be comfortably supported by one income? Women have to work, and if both man and woman are working then household duties need to be divided accordingly. So both parents work, but a woman has to cook, clean, take of the kids, etc on top of it because thats a woman's job?
 

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nah bruh. Call a spade a spade.

She DID attack him. She definitely did.

And shes not the ordinary single mom. Shes rich.

No one was talking about her skills as a single parent...but this is the same woman who made a massive hooplah over the source of her kid's autism and now has the audacity to overcompensate with her perception of how "great" her kid is doing.

fukk outta here with that.

I'm not even talking about the outliers of kids who "make it" regardless of circumstances, but these attempts to shy Crews comments are just jedi mind tricks.

That was more than a counterpoint. It was an anecdote and meant to be a "cognitive kill switch" to kill any sort of dissent....and it wasn't dissent at all.

Crews is right. having a father CHANGES you.

Whether its a good or a bad change, it CHANGES you. You can't sidestep that point.

we're talking about whoopi, not the blonde, and you didnt follow what whoopi said.
 

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Wildly false.

Hunter/gatherer societies were equalitarian and had social parity that wasnt gender specific. Societies were organized so that the older members who couldnt hunt and perform dangerous activities anymore raised the children, while younger male and female members "provided". Hominidae's have that sort of rigid hierarchy you speak of, but its been said that resistance of that structure enabled man to evolve in the first place.

Agrarian societies featured women doing plenty of work as well. Modern 20th century industrial families developed the social construct of strict separation of female nurturer and male provider, because white males began to assert societal dominance, and the household economies permitted it. Today, how many households can be comfortably supported by one income? Women have to work, and if both man and woman are working then household duties need to be divided accordingly. So both parents work, but a woman has to cook, clean, take of the kids, etc on top of it because thats a woman's job?
Women are biologically wired to be the nurturers. They are the ones with the skills to anticipate the needs of their partners, take care of nurturing the relationship and do the problem solving when things have gone awry. Men are more biologically wired to be the providers and protectors.
http://www.informationng.com/2014/01/why-men-are-more-distant-than-women-in-relationships.html

You seem to forget that humans are technically animals(mammals to be precise) and most female animals are nurturers. Why else would women have breast milk? Also I'm talking way before society.

As for the bolded other animals do that too...
 

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I thought they all made good points, but there were generalizations going around from everyone. A woman can raise amazing children on her own, just as a man can raise amazing children on his own. But having two loving parents - be it a straight or gay couple according to research - is the most effective way to raise a child.

Ultimately the roles of fathers and mothers are social constructs. Women aren't born mothers, they're taught how to be mothers by society. If you take a girl, lock her in a cage for 20 years with no interaction with other humans outside of giving her food...then give her a baby she's not going to know what to do with it. More than likely she'll kill it out of fear. The point being that these roles are learned.


I think it's a good idea for children to have male and female figures in their lives, regardless of whether it's a parent. Some boys learn how to "be a man" from their grandpa. Some girls learn how to "be a woman" from their aunt. Ultimately the goal should be to raise your child with love. A woman might not know the best advice on how to wear a suit, or a man might not know the best way to handle your time of the month...but those things pale in comparison to teaching a child how to be a hard worker, compassionate, fair, honest, etc...and a loving parent can teach all those things whether they're a man or a woman.

Ultimately we as men can only focus on our role. I plan on being the best father I can be, because I think it's important. And I would only marry a woman interested in being the best mother she can be, because she thinks it's important. The fact that most of us are black men makes this even more important brehs. Don't be another statistic. Raise your kids. Teach your kids. Feed your kids. Love your kids. You won't get a trophy, that's shyt you're supposed to do. That's what being a man is about.

Wrong as fukk.

I'm not done reading the thread but I hope someone already called it

Edit: Now I'm done reading the thread. :snoop: let's all log off
 

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we're talking about whoopi, not the blonde, and you didnt follow what whoopi said.
who gives a fukk what Whoopi had to say? She was on that "woe is me" shyt too.

She should be smart enough (clearly not) to realize the fault in her approach.

She had a shytty dad...Sorry to hear that, hope you don't think ALL men are like that dummy.

You're a grown woman, THINK like one.

Not everyone will have a good dad...how the fukk would that shyt even make sense to her?
 

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That's what I'm saying, breh. You can be raised right, or wrong for that matter, by anyone.

YOU CAN BE RAISED RIGHT AND STILL MISS OUT ON SOME IMPORTANT ASPECTS. I FEEL LIKE MY MOM DID A REAL GOOD JOB WITH US. BUT IM NOT CRAZY ENOUGH TO SAY THAT MY DAD BEING ABSENT DIDN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
 

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Wrong as fukk.

I'm not done reading the thread but I hope someone already called it

Edit: Now I'm done reading the thread. :snoop: let's all log off

nope you're wrong. There is no evidence that human mothers are "natural" mothers breh. They are taught how to raise children.
 
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