Tetsuo & Youth is too cryptic for me

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You saw the thread.
There was crazier shyt said in the thread than Walt's post. :pachaha:

Lol that's true lol. I think I would have clocked that was a parody post had I seen it but I didn't see the post lol. shyt is epic though lmao, even if you like the album or not that shyt is very well written/done and very funny lol.
 
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I don't really care about Lupe in either direction, love or hate. His music doesn't do a lot for me, and I tend to forget he exists until I'm reminded by one of his pseudo-intellectual outbursts about a societal issue, one of the numerous threads about his puerile trolling on twitter, or his fervent stans declaring him the greatest, smartest, most lyrically complex rapper in history.

But I took notice when this new album came out, because I hadn't seen such over-the-top, ludicrous reactions from a stanbase to a rap album's transcendent brilliance since the Killah Priest album, where people were levitating and unlocking ancient philosophical secrets mid-thread.

So I downloaded the album, listened to it 7 times (the first 3 so I could genuinely develop an opinion on how good the album was; the final 4 because two things about the album were truly enjoyable for me - the production and the laugh-out-loud goofiness of some of the self-indulgent, faux-deep lyrics), and decided to make a post in the official thread that was so absurd and nonsensical that it was meant to serve as a parody of just how ridiculous the stan reviews of the album were... but people actually dapped it. Because the stanbase has gone so cultishly overboard with this fukking album, that my parody post seemed par for the course, really. Never mind the stupid ass Matryoshka Doll analogy I made up on the spot; the cliche references I make to ancient, dead languages and symbols; nor the bold and baseless claim I make about Lupe inventing the quintuple entendre and boiling complex philosophical and mathematical concepts down to their essence in a simple rhyming couplet. What really blew my mind is I cited some of the worst lyrics on the album as examples of Lupe's genius, and no one batted an eye. Truly, if any other rapper had the gall to spit "such is life: odd as egg mcmuffins at night" cats would mock him endlessly. "Slippin like permission?" "Trippin like field?" This is complex lyricism? Sounds like filler in a battle rap round that would elicit groans from the audience.

Here's the post:



I mean, how the fukk could anyone take that post seriously?

And then there's the unlistenable self-indulgence of Mural:

"And not rain like, rain man or like rain dance
Or rain like a slight chance of rain when it's raining
Or rein like deer slaves to Santa Claus sleigh man
But reign like Queens that reign over made man
And not Queen like Queen killer
Rhapsody bohemian Queen
But Queen like white glove wave hand
And not wave hand like it's a heat wave
So you make a fan by waving your hand
I'm talking wave like you saying "hey"
Man, and not hay for horses..."

:snooze:

Production on this joint is dope though. And I'm happy his stans got an album without embarrassing reinterpretations of Modest Mouse choruses. I won't be keeping this rambling bullshyt in rotation at all.

:manny:
:blessed:
This nikka sneaked dissed the album with an analogy that fits the discussion/themes people had been throwing out there
:ohhh:

Now you're claiming you came up with that on your own to troll the thread?

:camby:
 

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You ever stop to think that maybe you're too cryptic? :sas2:
shyttin on us & our nikka Wasalu on the low :wow:

:ohhh:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I ain't trying to get into a war with a stanbase unless it's Nas stans, because they amuse me with their absolute insanity and dedication.
Dead ass happy y'all got an album from Lupe you love. Especially after that Lasers debacle. He's not my cup of tea, but that's cool.

On the real, I'd take 500 verses from Lupe with egg mcmuffin musings about life if it meant I never had to hear Ab-Soul's TRON verse again...

Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you still among the stars (SPACE)

Trapped in a game where the. trap. is. the. game.


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I hope we hear more DJ Dahi in 2015. He killed all the tracks he did on this album.....and in addition, if you look the stuff he's done with Top Dawg artists, on KRITs recent album, and this.....no two tracks have really sounded alike. He has staying power because he's able to change styles seamlessly.
 

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Little does he know that video game/reverse album part is some real shyt :wow:
That was my point in my reply.

He peeped what themes/theories people had been kicking around in the thread and dropped that in there when in actuality it plays into exactly what people had been saying about the album over the past week.

:mjlol:

shyt's funny regardless, but the bit about coming up with the most absurd and nonsensical post he could think of is not true... simply because the post was based off of what was in the thread and online in general since the album dropped.

Absurd and Nonsensical would be that one dude who's constantly making the "Tetsuo & Youth VS _________" threads every day on here.
 

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That was my point in my reply.

He peeped what themes/theories people had been kicking around in the thread and dropped that in there when it actuality it plays into exactly what people had been saying about the album over the past week.

:mjlol:

shyt's funny regardless, but the bit about coming up with the most absurd and nonsensical post he could think of is not true... simply because the post was based off of what was in the thread and online in general since the album dropped.

Absurd and Nonsensical would be that one dude who's constantly making the "Tetsuo & Youth VS _________" threads every day on here.

I was talking about the Russian Doll analogy as the one I made up on the spot. And yes, it's absurd and nonsensical to believe Lupe is sropping quintuple entendres and reducing complex mathematical and linguistic theories to their essence in mere couplets. Not to mention the bit about a 250 page book of essays on the meaning of each song. Yes, to sane people this would all seem nonsensical and absurd. Or, in Lupe-speak, even odder than egg mcmuffins at night.
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I've listened to this album all the way through twice. I just can't get into it. I love the production, and i like the lyrivs, but I feel like I have to go on a lyric site just to break down his meaning between songs. I don't think good songwriting has to be conplicated. While I like lupe, I think he gets too caught up in trying to be brilliant. He relies on obscure extendedicated metaphors too. Don't get me wrong I loved f and l and the cool, but they were easier to digest. Just seems like he's trying harder and harder to make his music enigmatic. I like riddles, but If it takes me like 5 times just to get it, then just give up on it. Lots of ppl on here are saying it's a classic, but what exactly makes this a classic?

:salute:

Wholeheartedly agree with you. At first I was excited and listened to it str8 thru and was like okay i just missed all of that. Second listen I went to rapgenius and by the 3rd song i was like fukk that, Im not trynna research a whole album worth of lyrics to "get it". Im just trynna hear some good music.
 

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:ohhh:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I ain't trying to get into a war with a stanbase unless it's Nas stans, because they amuse me with their absolute insanity and dedication.
Dead ass happy y'all got an album from Lupe you love. Especially after that Lasers debacle. He's not my cup of tea, but that's cool.

On the real, I'd take 500 verses from Lupe with egg mcmuffin musings about life if it meant I never had to hear Ab-Soul's TRON verse again...

Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you still among the stars (SPACE)

Trapped in a game where the. trap. is. the. game.


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Nah, what happened was, the fans and listeners of the album gravitated to the discussion of the album in the Official Thread and some of the posters on here can't stand how active the thread has been.

The majority of the threads made outside of that thread about the album are troll threads or retarded comparison threads solely made to get the Lupe haters in there to put the album down.
:mjlol:

So the comment, "Till stans started beatin us over the head with this is a 10/10 album" is complete bullshyt. Nobody was on here making threads saying Tetsuo & Youth is the GOAT album, there wasn't any of that. There was one thread made to shyt on J. Cole's album, but generally speaking? I've see WAY worse reactionary threads made for an album release by an artist's stans than this album has.

I guess beating you over the head with praise for the album means, "I lurked the T&Y thread and peeped how highly people think about the album"
:camby:
nikkas in the j cole thread was getting their stan on heavy and again in this thread if you don't like the album or even if you give it a decent score nikkas still sayin you hatin.

Just keep all that uppity shyt out of here. Lupe stans have the reputation they do for a reason it ain't random.
 

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I was talking about the Russian Doll analogy as the one I made up on the spot. And yes, it's absurd and nonsensical to believe Lupe is sropping quintuple entendres and reducing complex mathematical and linguistic theories to their essence in mere couplets. Not to mention the bit about a 250 page book of essays on the meaning of each song. Yes, to sane people this would all seem nonsensical and absurd. Or, in Lupe-speak, even odder than egg mcmuffins at night.
:steviej:
:yeshrug:

Lupe confirmed in an interview the week the album dropped that some songs have 4 to 5 themes/varying meanings going on all at once.

A 250 page book for each song, nah... but a 250 page book for the album? Maybe
:patrice:
 
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