That Obama backlash may be coming quicker than I thought

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That's not how humans work. When you see military grade arsenals in police departments and ever increasing budgets juxtaposed with crumbling infrastructure and closing public schools.....why do you need a catchy slogan to understand something is off?
It’s exactly how humans work and why people spend so much money on things like marketing. Also, it matters because there are various ways to address the issue you mentioned, including:

1. Defunding the police, and put them completely out of commission

2. Reforming police departments and disallowing that practice

When there are people out there that actually believe option 1 is a good idea, you have to be very clear what you say. We need better and fair policing, not the abolishment of police forces altogether. But when one group doesn’t want to hear “Defund The Police” and another doesn’t like hearing someone say, I don’t agree with defunding the police completely, but I believe in police reform, get stuck in this back and forth of semantics and posturing. nikkas can’t ever find some middle ground of agreement.
 

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Defunding the police and rerouting that money to educate the poor and rehabilitate addicts will bring crime down more than law enforcement will. They spent generations targeting the sellers, clearly doesn't work. So stop them from having new customers and make the old customers sober.
What if we worried about what Republicans would think for every issue?

Forget about Global Warming, its bad marketing
 

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I believe in police reform, get stuck in this back and forth of semantics and posturing. nikkas can’t ever find some middle ground of agreement.
Why Police Reform Is Actually a Bailout for Cops
Reform the police” usually means “reward the police.” This is the first trap of reform. As a supposed concession to the first wave of Black Lives Matter protests in 2014 through 2016, the Obama administration gave police a gift basket: $43 million for body cameras. Body cameras have not delivered on early promises to reduce police use of force, but they have expanded police surveillance powers, especially when equipped with facial-recognition software. As police patrolled Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, they captured images of protesters — by using the very technology that elites promised would contain some of the police powers that had sparked the protests just a few years ago.

Even larger rewards for police departments come under the guise of feel-good cop-speak labels like “community policing,” “guardian policing,” or “procedurally just policing.” After mass uprisings against policing in the mid-1960s, the Johnson administration created the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, which dispensed $10 billion mostly to local police, often in the name of improving racial fairness and police-community relations.

The more police brutalize and kill, the greater their budgets for training, hiring, and hardware. The Los Angeles Police Department exemplifies this cruel exchange rate. Between January 1964 and July 1965 — the 18 months before the people of Watts rebelled — the LAPD killed 64 people. Despite the fact that 27 of them were shot in the back, the police’s internal affairs department ruled that 62 of the 64 were justifiable homicides. During the Watts rebellion, the LAPD and the National Guard killed another 23 Angelenos, most of whom were Black. Many thought the obvious: The LAPD must be reformed, professionalized, and better equipped and trained to “fight crime” without provoking protests that cost millions in property damage. As federal, state, and county budgets pumped millions into policing, LAPD chief Thomas Reddin was triumphant. It was “The Year of the Cop,” he said in 1967, adding, “Everything you want, you get. And I say I want more, and I should be getting it.”

This history suggests that police, like banks, are too big to fail. When market crashes or mass protests stop business as usual, elites deliver a bailout — for the authors of the devastation, not the people they left broke and broken.

Stopping someone for walking in a “high-crime area”? Perfectly legal. Searching a car for drugs because the Black driver paused too long at a stop sign? Perfectly reasonable. As police commonly joke about racial profiling, “It never happens — and it works.”

The protests of 2020 have popularized key abolitionist demands to defund police and abolish the prison industrial complex. But federal elites have instead doubled down on rewarding police, particularly through the Community Oriented Policing Services (the COPS office), a 1994 Clinton administration creation that has already given $14 billion to local police. In June 2020 — as total unemployment reached 18 million people, one in five families was food insecure, and Black, Latino, and Indigenous mortality rates for coronavirus were as much as double those of whites — federal lawmakers prioritized hiring more than 3,000 more cops through the COPS office. If elected, Joe Biden promises to give another $300 million to community-oriented policing.

Policing is intrinsically predatory and violent. Police push millions of people into the carceral state, where racial disparity and other inequities rise through each circle of hell. Black people comprise 13% of the U.S. population but roughly 30% of the arrested, 35% of the imprisoned, 42% of those on death row, and 56% of those serving life sentences. Nearly half of people murdered by police have disabilities, and sexual violence is a routine but invisible form of police brutality used especially against LGBTQ youth, sex workers, undocumented women, and Black women and women of color.

In this unchecked violence, we see reform’s appeal but also its second trap: Because police look lawless, reformers hope that new laws will rein in their power. But the premise is wrong. Policing is not law’s absence; it is law’s essence in a system of racial capitalism. In this system, laws affirmatively protect the police’s right to racially profile, to lie, and to kill.

Racism is not a contaminant that seeps into policing as if lawmakers left some loophole that dutiful reformers could close. Police saturate working-class, Black, and Brown neighborhoods with explicit legal permission. Courts validate endless police stops. Stopping someone for walking in a “high-crime area”? Perfectly legal. Searching a car for drugs because the Black driver paused too long at a stop sign? Perfectly reasonable. As police commonly joke about racial profiling, “It never happens — and it works.”

Reformers try to enhance people’s procedural rights as if arming individuals with legal protections might slow the churn of criminalization. But consider the crowning glory of the procedural rights revolution, the 1966 Miranda v. Arizona Supreme Court decision requiring cops to recite the speech that contains some version of “You have the right to remain silent.” Outraged conservatives griped about liberal courts handcuffing the cops. But police simply learned a new protocol. After Miranda rights are read during an arrest, most people waive their rights, and police secure incriminating statements in more than half of all interrogations — rates comparable to those pre-Miranda. Police routinely use lies, intimidation, and confinement in interrogation, but simply saying the magic words became proof of professionalism. In short, Miranda offers good protection — for police, not the people they interrogate.

Reformers try to regulate police use of force. But rules are also instructions. In the 1985 Tennessee v. Garner decision, for example, the Supreme Court held that Memphis police wrongfully killed Edward Garner, a Black child in the eighth grade. It was wrong to shoot the child in the back, the Court found; such violence was justifiable only if an officer feared deadly injury to bystanders or themselves. In effect, a ruling on the illegality of killing gave police something more: instructions on how to kill legally. Police learned the script, “I feared for my life.” If cops forget their lines, then internal investigators help them remember. After Chicago police killed a child — identified in a Department of Justice report only as an “unarmed teenager” — the police internal investigator steered the cop toward exoneration with this question: “You were in fear for your life, so you fired how many times?”

“We believe in a world where there are zero police murders because there are zero police, not because police are better trained or better regulated,” writes the organization known as 8toAbolition. This brings us to the third trap of reform: Because reformers refuse abolition, they can only tinker with the techniques of police violence.

Chokehold bans, for example, prohibit a technique of killing but not the fact of killing. The bans are nonetheless hailed as victories, and New York City just celebrated its recent chokehold prohibition. But the New York Police Department prohibited chokeholds once before, in November 1993. It was hailed as a victory then, too. From 2006 to 2013, nearly 2,000 New Yorkers came forward with chokehold complaints. Just weeks after cops killed Eric Garner in 2014, the NYPD used the chokehold on Rosann Miller, a Black woman who was seven months’ pregnant, after they confronted her for barbequing in front of her house. The departmental ban was in full effect.

What trajectory of progress is this, to ban the chokehold — again — but allow police to kill with flashlights, vans, stun guns, handguns, and chokeholds by another name? An analogy can be made to death penalty reformers who replaced the noose with the electric chair and then replaced the electric chair with chemical cocktails. Reformers witnessed the horror of electrocutions that set heads aflame, and so they came up with a better way.

But better for whom? The technique of execution does not comfort the dead. It comforts the executioners — and all their supporters.

Reform is the perpetual bailout, the lifeline tossed to police every time people demand a better world, not better punishment.

We pursue reform on the premise that the system is broken. But as Mariame Kaba tells us, “The system isn’t broken but highly functioning just as the powers that be intended.” I agree and will add this: Police reform does not fail. It works — for the police.
 

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This is a great article. Obama and those like him are necessary.




Opinion | Obama’s Curious Cautiousness

Obama’s Curious Cautiousness
He is a great politician, but he is not an activist.
Dec. 2, 2020
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Matt Slocum/Associated Press
Barack Obama continues his rather strange mission to confront and correct young liberal activists. It is an odd post-presidential note: A man who is beloved and admired on the left is using his cultural currency as a corrective against those who are on a quest for change.

Wednesday morning on Peter Hamby’s Snapchat show, “Good Luck America,” Obama said this:

If you believe, as I do, that we should be able to reform the criminal justice system so that it’s not biased and treats everybody fairly, I guess you can use a snappy slogan like ‘Defund the police,’ but, you know, you lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you’re actually going to get the changes you want done.”

It was not the first time Obama had taken aim at these young activists. Last year he also took a swipe at wokenessand “call-out culture,” saying, among other things: “If all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do.”

That speech got him an amen from Ann Coulter, who tweeted: “Good for Obama. (Not sarcastic!)”

These chastisements by Obama delineate the difference between the politician and the activist.

The politician may be popular, but the activist will rarely be. The politician can unify, but the activist often divides. The politician seeks to unify people around a set of beliefs. The activist seeks to right a wrong that has been held up by a set of beliefs. In short, the politician navigates the system, while the activist defies it.

The politician builds a coalition by using middling philosophy and policies that appeal to the most and offend the fewest. The activist is driven more by purpose, morality and righteousness.

There is a reason most of our greatest activists in America never became politicians: They would have had to compromise too much of themselves and their causes.

Of course, as a political matter, Obama is right in a way. He is looking at the path to legislative and public opinion success. To take that path, the power structure can’t be so much confronted as coaxed. Those who do not recognize your full humanity must be convinced rather than condemned.

But that all feels like cowardice and accommodation to the activists. They are right, after all. Policing needs to be restructured in this country. Part of the reason so many unarmed Black people are killed at the hands of the police is that policing itself has become sick and corrupt; it has become bloated and impervious to prosecution.

I believe that Obama recognizes this, too, to some degree. But to the politician, baby steps are still progress. Winning the hearts and minds of the populace in that tradecraft, it is the way — the only way — they believe that progress is made.

Possibly.

But it is also true that it is often the presence of an extremist wing — I say extremist here only because that is the way the opposition sees strident activism — that makes successes of the moderate position possible.


Part of the reason the civil rights movement led by Martin Luther King Jr. could be so successful was the existence of the more radical — and less widely acceptable — Malcolm X.

Booker T. Washington was elevated because he was willing to forgo political power at a time when Black people outnumbered white people in some Southern states and were near a majority in others. The idea of Black political power and possibly even Black dominance had sent shock waves through the white South and animated white terror in the region.

This moment needs the radical young activists. It needs them to push far and hard. It needs them to confront the power structure, to stare it down, to demand its dismantling.

Obama is a good man and a great politician. History will always record him as such. But he is not an activist. He is not the person who can or will push for the immediate alleviation of oppression. That is just not who he is or how his power was derived. He is above all else a practical, left-of-center moderate.

His presence as president was his greatest symbol of change: a smart, competent Black man, devoid of personal scandal, who brought class and professionalism to the White House. He changed the idea of what was possible to America — including its children — and enshrined Black excellence at the highest level of government as just another normal thing.

That simple act, him doing his job well, was monumental in the quest for racial progress.

But none of that negates the legitimate cries of the activist that much more must be done, that Obama altered a racial image, for the better, but wasn’t able to alter the system of oppression. That was always too much of an expectation. No one can correct 400 years in eight.

But in their approach, the activists are right. I have no problem with “Defund the police.” I know that it means to reallocate funding so that social services and policing are properly weighted. If people are offended and “lost” because of that, they were actually lost before the phrase was uttered.
 

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This is his 3rd book, BTW. You might wanna check the others out.:sas2:
If you ever, at any point, thought OBeezy was on some Black militant shyt, slap yourself.:ufdup:
I voted for him both times and I don't regret it one bit, even with my criticisms.:manny:
The only way Obama lets you down with this book is if you constructed an Obama in your mind based on your own fantasies.:usure:
It's like nikkas being disappointed in Jordan after watching The Last Dance:mjcry: and finding out he's not the nikka from Space Jam:mjlol:
 

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I see more post on here shytting on Obama than Trump. This is NO surprise to me tho. Whole site is becoming trash at this point.
Dudes trying too hard to be a vocal minority and embarrassing themselves in the proceeds
 
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Yep. Reminds me of when these c00ns were trying to tell black ppl don't vote a few months ago, thread after thread, tweets galore, and then when the election rolled around, we had the biggest turnout in history.

It's amazing that we're in a time when such a strong minority can be the loudest in the room.

I'm happy that just cause they loud don't mean folks are actually paying them any attention.

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What if we worried about what Republicans would think for every issue?

Forget about Global Warming, its bad marketing

It's the oddest thing, imagine lebron asking what the losers are gonna think when he wins a chip. Who the fukk thinks about how their enemies feel? :mjlol:
 

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It’s exactly how humans work and why people spend so much money on things like marketing. Also, it matters because there are various ways to address the issue you mentioned, including:

1. Defunding the police, and put them completely out of commission

2. Reforming police departments and disallowing that practice

When there are people out there that actually believe option 1 is a good idea, you have to be very clear what you say. We need better and fair policing, not the abolishment of police forces altogether. But when one group doesn’t want to hear “Defund The Police” and another doesn’t like hearing someone say, I don’t agree with defunding the police completely, but I believe in police reform, get stuck in this back and forth of semantics and posturing. nikkas can’t ever find some middle ground of agreement.

Man, please. Gays straight up hijacked the rainbow, no matter how the majority felt about it, the message it would send to kids, or the semantics of it all. Now black people have to find a middle ground that everyone is okay hearing? Don't come telling me black people have to work on their messaging to get their point across. Defund the police is exactly that....DEFUND THE POLICE! Who said abolish? And miss me with this "reform" nonsense. You can not reform white supremacist. Damn near every other week, there's more evidence of cops being in racists groups, saying racist things online, having racist tattoos, flashing racist hand signs.....how do you reform that? Better yet, why do you insist on black people pushing the reform narrative that YOU know is false? These clowns can come up with goofy names for legislation from Green New Deal, Dreamers, etc, but now all these politicians with law degrees somehow cant articulate "defund the police" correctly to their constituents? If the slogan was so bad, why isnt Barry out here providing context to it instead of crapping on it? He's an agent. And you're a clown for letting politicians tell you that YOU'RE not smart enough to comprehend a three word phrase.
 

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He is a white man who happened to have a African father.

first it was

'just wait until his second term he gone look out for blacks'

Then

'Wait until he get out of office he really gone show out for blacks when the cuffs are gone'

Obama is a willing aid to white supremacy always has been always will be.

:ohlawd:
 
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