The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.
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What does any of that have to do with this thread?
This ain't a thread dissin youngstas or bigging up old shyt, I'm just making a point that I think the absence of a connection to traditional Black American music, especially the grooves and basslines of Funk music, is the cause of the current disconnect between younger and older hip hop music consumers.
And TPAB was more jazzy than funky.
edit: Nah you right, that shyt was funky as hell, and you pretty much proved my point.
Any of this shyt sound boring to you?
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Right. which is why hip hop's appeal has skyrocketed to cacs.
And guess which two rappers dikkrode indie rock/cac music for dollars? Clue: they are 2 of the 3 major contributors to the woat era. Both don't write their own rhymes, one doesn't make his own beats. Their last names are Wayne and West. Good luck
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“flippin the same shyts for a thousand years...” - bobby digital
Its only natural that rappers wouod discover new genres and thus sample from those genres to create their new sounds.
Atleast those guys still SAMPLING tho.
These digi beats are the problem imo. They just have no depth
So onyx turned into a novelty act cuz white peoPle liked them? How can that argument even be made. Bacdafucup was EXTRA with it.. if blacks stopped liking it because other races supported it thats wild corny anyway. Its not like they went out of their way to get white fans... theres shows were filled with black people dudes shooting guns in the air.
Cuz onyx toned it down into a legit hip hop act over the next two albums which got NO support from anyon. White or black.
I just dont see how they did anything to pander to white people. Their label put them with the metal group but if anything they were one of the most hood heavy groups in existance at the time. Just cuz it had a LOUD rock estatic dont mean it was pandering at all.
For example Liquid swords was promoted to the college/white rock crowd; i dont think that made wu tang white pandering, rza just knew the heavy lyrics and atmosphere would find a new audience while albums like cuban linx found another audience even while being almost the same album.
Its only natural that rappers wouod discover new genres and thus sample from those genres to create their new sounds.
Atleast those guys still SAMPLING tho.
These digi beats are the problem imo. They just have no depth
So onyx turned into a novelty act cuz white peoPle liked them? How can that argument even be made. Bacdafucup was EXTRA with it.. if blacks stopped liking it because other races supported it thats wild corny anyway. Its not like they went out of their way to get white fans... theres shows were filled with black people dudes shooting guns in the air.
Cuz onyx toned it down into a legit hip hop act over the next two albums which got NO support from anyon. White or black.
I just dont see how they did anything to pander to white people. Their label put them with the metal group but if anything they were one of the most hood heavy groups in existance at the time. Just cuz it had a LOUD rock estatic dont mean it was pandering at all.
For example Liquid swords was promoted to the college/white rock crowd; i dont think that made wu tang white pandering, rza just knew the heavy lyrics and atmosphere would find a new audience while albums like cuban linx found another audience even while being almost the same album.
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Funk was the culmination of all Black American music made up until that point (Gospel, Blues, Jazz, R&B, Soul), and was created by some of the absolute best musicians from those genres that wanted more freedom in their musical expression.
It was the music of the 70's in Black America, and was the main influence on Hip Hop's sound from the late 70s to the early 00s.
The drums that fueled most of the classic hip hop records from that time were lifted mostly from Funk records, the bass lines that drove these records were mostly Funk inspired, and the melodies/rhythms from Funk or Funk inspired records provided an infinite source of samples, ideas, and inspiration.
Artist's born in the 60's/ 70's/early 80's were raised in households and environments were funk music and funk inspired R&B, Soul, and Jazz was THE music of the black community.
We were raised on shyt like this...
My theory is kids born from the late 90s on, were more influenced by the internet than their families/communities musically, and the music being made today is a reflection of that.
A lot of us older cats were late to the internet movement, and by the time we got our footing, youngins was already on some way other shyt, so the shyt we was talking about was foreign to them.
Correct me if you feel I'm wrong..
Your right. It starts from rythm n soul. And the essence and heart is Funk. Indeed.
U don’t know where the hell u going. If u don’t no where the Hell we already been.
I hear so much talk about the word “Culture”. It’s your heritage. Your history. People gotta learn more and respect the past so they can think clearly and focus on the future. If not the future becomes dense and less
I hear so much talk about the word “Culture”. It’s your heritage. Your history. People gotta learn more and respect the past so they can think clearly and focus on the future. If not the future becomes dense and less
New school producers and rappers parents aren't listening to funk like that, plus for the genre to stay fresh it needs to invent new shyt or it'll fall off like many other genres that stayed doing the same shyt.
When you listen to "old school" rappers and producers interviews, you can see them talk about "that's what my parents listened to". Now if these dudes parents listened to Biggie, Jay-z and Nas then they came up listening to hiphop.
Besides that, a lot of greedy people done killed of sampling by charging insane sums as if producers had to use them to make music.
When you listen to "old school" rappers and producers interviews, you can see them talk about "that's what my parents listened to". Now if these dudes parents listened to Biggie, Jay-z and Nas then they came up listening to hiphop.
Besides that, a lot of greedy people done killed of sampling by charging insane sums as if producers had to use them to make music.
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Pass me the rock nikka
I don't even fukk with 69 like that or make threads about him
It's 2018 the 70's was 40 years ago, nikkas still sample, but the young gen got they own shyt stop hating on the youth, hip-hop is youth music and doing the same shyt from decades ago is backwards.
amazing thread..
