"The Academy award goes to the actor, 2Pac Shakur...give him a round of applause"

[wingstop]

Suge fukked Pac over tho.
Had him paying for other nikkas cars and child support and owed DR millions.

fukk all the conspiracy shyt, I'm just saying Suge was doing Pac dirty.

he was obviously doing him dirty, just like how most executive's did back then. but pac wasnt for sure gonna leave and suge easily did not kill pac, that is the dumbest conspiracy of all time

 

[Mandarin Duck]

he was obviously doing him dirty, just like how most executive's did back then. but pac wasnt for sure gonna leave and suge easily did noy kill pac, that was the dumbest conspiracy of all time

Miss me with the Suge killing Pac BS.
But Pac wanting to leave DR sounds very understandable.
Suge was doing him dirty and If Pac didn't know, he would have eventually found out had he not died so early.
So what does Suge do? Promise him his own record label (but of course still under the DR Umbrella.)
Sound familiar?

Spoiler

YMCMB Pleighboi

 

[wingstop]

Miss me with the Suge killing Pac BS.
But Pac wanting to leave DR sounds very understandable.
Suge was doing him dirty and If Pac didn't know, he would have eventually found out had he not died so early.
So what does Suge do? Promise him his own record label (but of course still under the DR Umbrella.)
Sound familiar?

Spoiler

YMCMB Pleighboi

yes i agree but they were close when he died, there were no indications that he was gonna leave.

 

[JuvenileHell]

I would sooner have used Drop A gem On Em in the OP Puff's rant was weak

 

[FeloniousMonk]

do you know that suge went to jail and afeni benefited more than suge, she owned the rights to the music.

And at the end of the day SUGE still OWED Pac MILLIONS before his death.

WHY else did Afeni have to go after Suge?

Do you know that most labels own the rights, masters from the artists signed

Do you know that most artists dont make a lot off of album sales, they all get low percentages

Do you know that most royalties dont start coming in until much later, he was just starting to receive royalties from all eyez on me.

Do you know that pac owed suge money because suge literally bailed him out of jail, bought him a house, car, etc. and was now releasing his albums

Dude, that bail was recouped from the sales of the 1st single..you just driveling manure out your mouth for the hell of it.

Do you know that pac was broke before he went to deathrow

Do you know that makaveli records was gonna be connected to deathrow

connected?

Okay..whatever that means..

Why would pac run up on orlando anderson?

look up the term overzealous then get back to me..

Why would pac be around suge ?

why would suge be next to him in the car ?

Cuz label owners usually court their new or top earning artists see..Clive Davis/Whitney Houston

You know suge knew where pac was always at, he could have easily had him killed

Only thing that you've made sense with regarding this whole debate..

Lmfao you lack common sense

Yep.

I just know a few more people who knew Pac personally than you who knew Christopher.

 

[DPG]

2Pac's money issues at Death Row stem from a combination of Death Row’s own accounting being in disarray, Pac receiving advances and money from Suge whenever he asked, royalties generally taking several months to be paid and his terrible contract which never entitled him to much to begin with. Pac's irresponsible spending didn't help matters either.

Pac knew his deal with Death Row wasn't the greatest from the start, he knew the music industry and how it worked; Interscope were even holding back $3m worth of royalties from him. Death Row were holding back his royalties.

Quite a few people have said Pac was going to renegotiate a better deal with Suge and Death Row.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

you are ignoring my point that puff wasnt the one who wanted big dead lmfao

He may have not wanted him dead.

yet what made him think BIG was safe out West after a cat they where OPENLY beefing with gets killed.....speaks volumes..

 

[wingstop]

And at the end of the day SUGE still OWED Pac MILLIONS before his death.

WHY else did Afeni have to go after Suge?

Dude, that bail was recouped from the sales of the 1st single..you just driveling manure out your mouth for the hell of it.




connected?

Okay..whatever that means..

look up the term overzealous then get back to me..

Cuz label owners usually court their new or top earning artists see..Clive Davis/Whitney Houston

Only thing that you've made sense with regarding this whole debate..

Yep.

I just know a few more people who knew Pac personally than you who knew Christopher.

you are delusional, im just gonna let you believe that dumbass theory

 

[Brosef]

Damn I completely forgot about that Biggie verse at the end

Disappearing acts, strictly nines and macs
Killers be serial, Copperfield material

 

[KravenMorehead™]

wild

 

[Afromaticz]

puffy never said he was a gangsta or a thug. He is a boss and a don who got other people to handle the dirty work for him. Pac acted like a foot soldier taking orders from suge and ran up on a known gangmember. Pac shouldnt be doing shyt like that, in no way was he a boss like puffy. Puffy was connected in every way like a real don, and had people from the west coast destroy deathrow. Scream westside, but people from the westside were the ones who destroyed your empire.

Puff a boss?? Lool where the hell do you guys get that shyt from

 

[wingstop]

Puff a boss?? Lool where the hell do you guys get that shyt from

how is what i said wrong? he was way more of a boss than 2pac

 

[DPG]

Some people at Death Row have also suggested that 2Pac wasn't necessarily on good terms with his mother/family at the time of his death and was upset that they continually ran up crazy bills on his dime. I think there is an article somewhere which stated Pac always had a love/hate relationship with his family due to their money grabbing ways too.

"Afeni is a greedy bytch" - Daz Dillinger

"Nobody respects a man who don't do for himself. I'm a soldier; so I'm here on Death Row to put my time into this army. It's not like they got me out of jail and now I gotta do for them. It's that they believed in me, so I believe in this company when no one else will. When people said this was played out. I'm breathin' into it. I don't give a fukk if I don't get along with anybody else on the label. This is for Death Row. When it comes to the point when I feel it can stand on its own, I will move on. But me and Suge wil always do business together, forever."

Words from the horse's mouth two weeks before his death.

 

[Bone$]

Knaw of course I got that, it was this

 

[Renzo]

2Pac's money "issues" at Death Row stem from a combination of Death Row’s own accounting being in disarray, Pac receiving advances and money from Suge whenever he asked, royalties generally taking several months to be paid and his terrible contract which never entitled him to much to begin with. Pac's irresponsible spending didn't help matters either.

Pac knew his deal with Death Row was terrbile from the start, he knew the music industry and how it worked; Interscope were even holding back $3m worth of royalties from him.

Quite a few people have said Pac was going to renegotiate a better deal with Suge and Death Row.

To add, the contract is online..it really wasnt that bad a deal..Pac got everything he wanted put in..the issue was when it came time to pay up what they ( Deathrow ) owed..Afeni said the last few weeks of his life was him threatening to audit Deathrow to get a accounting of what was owed to him