Essential The Africa the Media Doesn't Tell You About

[Bawon Samedi]

Like I said never denied Whites fighting among themselves. But its more like an elite group fighting among themselves where non-Whites are not apart. Again non-Whites never had access to those spoils. And I highly doubt the French or British had Haitian rebels best interest.

 

[Frangala]

One candidate clearly won Congo election - Catholic church | Agricultural Commodities | Reuters

@Frangala Catholic Church saying they know who won

The Catholic Church is basically saying the opposition won by a landslide and pre-emtping/warning the national electoral committee to announce election results truly reflective of the people's will and votes. DRC like a lot of Francophone African countries has an "independent" electoral committee responsible for organizing elections at the end of each term. Except, this electoral committee is not independent but is controlled by the government in power and in Africa there is a saying that "no government in power organizes elections to lose them". The Catholic Church in Congo is implanted everywhere in the country and is the only institution that is present when the state is absent in terms of providing services for the population (i.e schools, water, electricity etc...).

In this election, the Church had trained witnesses and observers at every polling station reporting back with results to the Church. The electoral committee tried everything to sabotage and organized shambolic elections so that the candidate representing the govt. (handpicked by Kabila) will win but he didn't and according to the constitution only the electoral committee can announce winner of elections. The electoral committee at the moment is still "counting" votes but it is to find a way to commit fraud and try to find a way to justify the victory of the candidate representing the govt. in power so the Catholic Church is just letting the committee know that they know who truly won and have communicated this news to foreign dignitaries. The committee won't announce the official results until this Sunday the 6th.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

The Catholic Church is basically saying the opposition won by a landslide and pre-emtping/warning the national electoral committee to announce election results truly reflective of the people's will and votes. DRC like a lot of Francophone African countries has an "independent" electoral committee responsible for organizing elections at the end of each term. Except, this electoral committee is not independent but is controlled by the government in power and in Africa there is a saying that "no government in power organizes elections to lose them". The Catholic Church in Congo is implanted everywhere in the country and is the only institution that is present when the state is absent in terms of providing services for the population (i.e schools, water, electricity etc...).

In this election, the Church had trained witnesses and observers at every polling station reporting back with results to the Church. The electoral committee tried everything to sabotage and organized shambolic elections so that the candidate representing the govt. (handpicked by Kabila) will win but he didn't and according to the constitution only the electoral committee can announce winner of elections. The electoral committee at the moment is still "counting" votes but it is to find a way to commit fraud and try to find a way to justify the victory of the candidate representing the govt. in power so the Catholic Church is just letting the committee know that they know who truly won and have communicated this news to foreign dignitaries. The committee won't announce the official results until this Sunday the 6th.

The opposition didn’t run on a single slate. It’s possible for Shadary to have one the plurality of the vote (given the massive fraud).

Anyway, the whole ting is a sham!

 

[Frangala]

The opposition didn’t run on a single slate. It’s possible for Shadary to have one the plurality of the vote (given the massive fraud).

Anyway, the whole ting is a sham!

Despite two opposition leaders, Shadary was severely beaten. Fayulu won the elections with Tshisekedi second. The Eastern part of the DRC had been a bastion of the govt. but the electoral campaign proved that with the dismal record of Kabila even in the eastern part of DRC which has been victim of multiple rebel killings and rapes there was no way even Shadary was going to win it and he didn't so far that the electoral committee excluded Beni, Butembo which hold 1.3 million electors out of this elections for "ebola reasons" while during the electoral campaign every candidate was campaigning in that region where the risk of transmission would have been very high.

Kabila and the party in power miscalculated how unpopular they were and like I have always said tribalism is almost non existent in that country Fayulu is from the west (Bandundu province) and overwhelmingly won Kisangani and won Goma Bukavu (major eastern cities) by a landslide.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Despite two opposition leaders, Shadary was severely beaten. Fayulu won the elections with Tshisekedi second. The Eastern part pf the DRC had been a bastion of the opposition but the electoral campaign proved that with the dismal record of Kabila even in the eastern part of DRC which has been vitims of mutliple killings and rapes there was no way even Shadary was going to win it and he didn't so far the electoral committee excluded Beni, Butembo which hold 1.3 million electors out of this elections for "ebola reasons" while during the electoral campaign every candidate was campaigning in that region where the risk of transmission would have been very high.

Kabila and the party in power miscalculated how unpopular they were and like I have always said tribalism is almost non eistent in that country Fayulu is from the west (Bandundu province) and overwhelmingly won Kisangani and won Goma Bukavu by a landslide.

I like how non tribalistic the Congolese are

Thanks for the knowledge

 

[thatrapsfan]

Despite two opposition leaders, Shadary was severely beaten. Fayulu won the elections with Tshisekedi second. The Eastern part of the DRC had been a bastion of the govt. but the electoral campaign proved that with the dismal record of Kabila even in the eastern part of DRC which has been victim of multiple rebel killings and rapes there was no way even Shadary was going to win it and he didn't so far that the electoral committee excluded Beni, Butembo which hold 1.3 million electors out of this elections for "ebola reasons" while during the electoral campaign every candidate was campaigning in that region where the risk of transmission would have been very high.

Kabila and the party in power miscalculated how unpopular they were and like I have always said tribalism is almost non existent in that country Fayulu is from the west (Bandundu province) and overwhelmingly won Kisangani and won Goma Bukavu (major eastern cities) by a landslide.

What do you think of Fayulu? Should he win and Kabila/Shadary leave the scene, what do you think that means for Congo?

 

[Frangala]

What do you think of Fayulu? Should he win and Kabila/Shadary leave the scene, what do you think that means for Congo?

Very good question. one of the main reasons why Fayulu was able to crush the elections was because he had Jean Pierre Bemba and Moise Katumbi behind him who were both barred from running themselves for purely political reasons and decided to endorse and throw their weight behind Fayulu.

The Congolese opposition has been criticized and rightfully so for many years as an opposition willing to negotiate at any cost. In 2016 at the end of Kabila's term, people were ready to take Kabila out via some type of uprising and they were fed up. The international community approached the opposition to negotiate a transition and delay with the govt. in power and we find ourselves in 2018. Bemba has worked with Kabile (as Vice president under a power sharing agreement prior to his arrest and incarceration in the ICC) and Katumbi has also worked for the govt. in power as the governor of Katanga province and claims that he distanced himself from Kabila when he heard that Kabila was floating around a change in the constitution concerning term limits. Bemba is a lock in his province Equateur (Mobutu's province) and Katumbi is a lock in southeast Katanga province and Fayulu benefited in winning those places.

Although Fayulu is "new blood" and has not worked with this regime, he is backed with people who worked with the regime and are now in the opposition. I am not sure how independent he is. We will have to wait and see. As far as personally, he is a former oil/gas executive for 20 years all over Africa for Exxon Mobil and is probably not hurting for money and is educated. For Kabila, it is a matter of life and death if he is out of power it's over unless he can control things behind the scenes that's why he chose Shadary who is also under EU sanctions currently. Kabila will not go down without a fight but its going to be a bad ending for him.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Despite two opposition leaders, Shadary was severely beaten. Fayulu won the elections with Tshisekedi second. The Eastern part of the DRC had been a bastion of the govt. but the electoral campaign proved that with the dismal record of Kabila even in the eastern part of DRC which has been victim of multiple rebel killings and rapes there was no way even Shadary was going to win it and he didn't so far that the electoral committee excluded Beni, Butembo which hold 1.3 million electors out of this elections for "ebola reasons" while during the electoral campaign every candidate was campaigning in that region where the risk of transmission would have been very high.

Kabila and the party in power miscalculated how unpopular they were and like I have always said tribalism is almost non existent in that country Fayulu is from the west (Bandundu province) and overwhelmingly won Kisangani and won Goma Bukavu (major eastern cities) by a landslide.

Interesting.

 

[Red Shield]

No one is arguing that Europeans dont squabble but fact is they knew it was best to oppress non-Europeans based on "race" and hoard the resources for themselves.

Not only that you bring up World Wars when prior to that period European powers were colonizing 2/3rds of the world based on RACE. And racial science was used to justify it. Heck even DURING WW2 most non-Europeans were oppressed. Like I said it was just squabbles for spoils.

Lastly if racial identity is not superior then can someone explain why the majority of the world's capital is in the hands of Europeans/whites?

For resources/dominance? Yes they were especially world war 1. World war 2 was basically about Germany losing its territories and being screwed by other European powers. Either way like I said half the world's population was oppressed under them.


You keep bringing up Americans when no one mentioned them. Yea it maybe true for the rest of the world but NOT the West. Yeah ethnicity/tribe may come first with Europeans when there are NO non-Europeans around. Again, no one one is denying Europeans fighting among themselves but non-Europeans were NOT about of these fights.

Either way Europeans aren't even killing themselves like that. Heck why do you think the European Union exist? NATO? And also this?
EU to migrants: Go home and stay home

Fact is European identity has morphed into a racial one. And if you want to bring up "American view", then fact is America dominates the global politics.




AKA a way for Europeans to unite. And like I said squabbles. Meanwhile, the majority of non-Europeans were colonized based off pseudo-racial science as an excuse.


Like I said if racial identity is not superior then can someone explain why the majority of the world's capital is in the hands of Europeans/whites? I.e the global north? You can bring up European infighting but it doesn't explain away why they get on code against non-Europeans.

You are right...a family/race is always gonna have some infighting. But when it came time to fukk over those non-whites...they were together.

But for Africans to get to the point where race>tribe.. there is gonna have to be some serious consolidation.

 

[Frangala]

 

[noodles]

Salute to Congo...just come across this thread..great knowledge being spread.

 

[thatrapsfan]

@Frangala so they declared the other opposition leader as winner, after he met with Kabila

 

[Frangala]

@Frangala so they declared the other opposition leader as winner, after he met with Kabila

Fayulu (the other opposition leader won). Tshisekedi (second place opposition) met with Kabila and basically guaranteeing him that he would not be pursued in terms of justice and this whole reconciliation BS (which means Kabila still controls powerful institutions in the country such as the military and intelligence services behind the scenes a Medvedev-Putin scenario in Russia) hence he was pronounced President but the Catholic Church played it well by already telling the world that they knew who won and the Catholic Church is a neutral and non-partisan stakeholder so its credibility is impeccable.

Kabila's candidate had lost so badly despite the division in the opposition, the govt. couldn't salvage a win for him. Let's wait and see for the upcoming weeks, they should be interesting.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Fayulu (the other opposition leader won). Tshisekedi (second place opposition) met with Kabila and basically guaranteeing him that he would not be pursued in terms of justice and this whole reconciliation BS (which means Kabila still controls powerful institutions in the country such as the military and intelligence services behind the scenes a Medvedev-Putin scenario in Russia) hence he was pronounced President but the Catholic Church played it well by already telling the world that they knew who won and the Catholic Church is a neutral and non-partisan stakeholder so its credibility is impeccable.

Kabila's candidate had lost so badly despite the division in the opposition, the govt. couldn't salvage a win for him. Let's wait and see for the upcoming weeks, they should be interesting.

This seems like a very high-risk strategy by Kabila, even if Tshisekedi holds on. Recent history shows once you leave office all bets/deals are off. Look at Angola and even Zimbabwe.

 

[BigMan]

whats going on in Gabon?

US deploys troops to Gabon amid fears of unrest in DRC