The amount of wenching happening on television is becoming ridiculous.

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I don’t agree with your ideas about the role the industry plays in black artistry. I think they handpick the most ignorant representatives they can find and then groom them. Being anti-blk in artistry almost seems to be a selling point and marketing tool these days b/c it signals to white audiences that these artists wish to cross over into that they are their desired consumers.

But we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't see how we're in disagreeance. You basically just said what I said except i took it further by explaining how society raises them to be in agreeance with their own anti black pathology from the beginning. We both agree that these institutions cherry pick the black people they deem 'fit' to occupy the roles they designate for us.
As for freedom of expression when blk women criticize this “art” many are merely clapping back. There is a tendency for many groups to want blk women to be silent in the face of disrespect and to encourage us to do so, many rely on age old angry black woman tropes. They aren’t trying to influence the artists. Rather, they are identifying racialized self-hate embedded within the artistry and not allowing that to go unacknowledged. Which is what they should do. Using your voice can be cathartic for Black women b/c it helps them put the nonsense on blast and identify the pattern within the artistry that some willfully deny even when it’s in their faces.

I can’t speak for every blk woman, but I don’t think they believe they can change the artists. However, they don’t have to take the disrespect silently either. Just as blk men should not ignore the increasing uptick in movies and media depicting bw and non-blk men. Speak on that. Don’t let that shyt hide in silence. Bring it out. Because doing so brings awareness, discourse and action.
Pointing out anti black pathology when it occurs is one thing, but at what point does it stop from being an opportunity to voice grievances and educate others on anti black behavior to devolving into a regressive petty bashfest? Let's be honest a majority of the loud voices on Twitter aren't there for anything productive, they're just there to show their ass and chase after a gotcha moment that will validate their personal resentment they have for their counterpart. That ain't doing nobody any favors. If you know the game it makes more sense to go after the cacs behind the scenes you know are pulling the strings. But alot of those blue checks will willingly work with those same behind the scenes cacs all in the name off cutting off the nose to spite the face. That's some monkey shyt if i ever saw it. If i were a rich and powerful cac I'd be laughing my ass off knowing my people pulled the perfect 42 fake.
 

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Pointing out anti black pathology when it occurs is one thing, but at what point does it stop from being an opportunity to voice grievances and educate others on anti black behavior to devolving into a regressive petty bashfest? Let's be honest a majority of the loud voices on Twitter aren't there for anything productive, they're just there to show their ass and chase after a gotcha moment that will validate their personal resentment they have for their counterpart. That ain't doing nobody any favors. If you know the game it makes more sense to go after the cacs behind the scenes you know are pulling the strings. But alot of those blue checks will willingly work with those same behind the scenes cacs all in the name off cutting off the nose to spite the face. That's some monkey shyt if i ever saw it. If i were a rich and powerful cac I'd be laughing my ass off knowing my people pulled the perfect 42 fake.
That’s the thing about free expression. You can’t control it. Some of it will be petty but there will be some real poignant truths dropped too on both sides. Take the good and leave the bad and develop something better as you move forward.
 
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That’s the thing about free expression. You can’t control it. Some of it will be petty but there will be some real poignant truths dropped too on both sides. Take the good and leave the bad and develop something better as you move forward.
Well when the toxic and unproductive voices are the ones being given the megaphone by the powers that be that's something that has to be addressed. To ignore that would be to allow their state sanctioned muck to bog down what could be a productive discussion. You can't control it but like you said some shyt deserves to be pointed out so more people know what the game is and can move accordingly.
 

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Well when the toxic and unproductive voices are the ones being given the megaphone by the powers that be that's something that has to be addressed. To ignore that would be to allow their state sanctioned muck to bog down what could be a productive discussion. You can't control it but like you said some shyt deserves to be pointed out so more people know what the game is and can move accordingly.
Yep. It’s necessary and it chafes some people, but pointing the dumb shyt out and confronting it lets others understand that there is resistance instead of just bending over and taking it.
 

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Yep. It’s necessary and it chafes some people, but pointing the dumb shyt out and confronting it lets others understand that there is resistance instead of just bending over and taking it.
While making sure to keep sight of who the real enemy is and not letting criticism devolve into pock shots. That is the recipe for productive conversation.
 

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Straight black men. Lets be deadass, we are the most homophobic ppl in the country.
Agreed with everything except this part.

WE're not the ones writing legislation stopping gay men from marrying or stopping trans people from using bathrooms.

Nor are we the ones championing conversion therapy centers or operating them.

They straight up damn near killing gay folks in Russia right now...a 98% white eastern european country.

These Republican straight white men are banning transgender people from the military. WE don't have the power or the numbers in America to do that.

But people like to put the monopoly on homophobia on black men...as if white people just suddenly started being tolerant towards the LGBTQ while smultaneously drafting laws and rules to discriminate against sexual orientation.

With Black Men, the homophobia has very little power behind it compared to White christian patriachal values that are backed by government manipulation and actual legal power behind it.
 

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Agreed with everything except this part.

WE're not the ones writing legislation stopping gay men from marrying or stopping trans people from using bathrooms.

Nor are we the ones championing conversion therapy centers or operating them.

They straight up damn near killing gay folks in Russia right now...a 98% white eastern european country.

These Republican straight white men are banning transgender people from the military. WE don't have the power or the numbers in America to do that.

But people like to put the monopoly on homophobia on black men...as if white people just suddenly started being tolerant towards the LGBTQ while smultaneously drafting laws and rules to discriminate against sexual orientation.

With Black Men, the homophobia has very little power behind it compared to White christian patriachal values that are backed by government manipulation and actual legal power behind it.

All fair points... But By and large we dont do much to make their lives easier either. Other groups seem to be more accepting than us as of late. Republican white males may hate them too as you mentioned, but liberal white males for example are ready to fxcken put balls in they mouth for solidarity ( im not helping our case am i:patrice:) You talkin about Russia, im talking strictly about U.S.

Like i told homeboy, i didn't say we were the oppressers. We just dont like them... And we wont hesitate to let it be known.. its largely a part of black male culture to reject f@gg0try. Theres no need to be obtuse here. We are the defacto culture creators in the U.S and we've deemed it "cool" to dissociate onesself from any and all homo shyt at all costs in order to be a man's man. NO We dont have a monopoly on homphobia but its clear as day we collectively dont fxck with them. Yeah, christian cacs made it a hot line but we kinda made it a hot song.

Simply put, we dont like them and they dont like us. So I could see them holding a hollywood grudge.
 

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Stop thinking that black women are loyal queens when they aren't and dont watch tv and you wont be bothered by this stuff :manny:

you say this like black men have displayed insurmountable loyalty to black women:mjlol:.

I really wish y’all would stop with that mess.

Y’all acting all butt hurt while salivating over your pawgs and paags ,lol and asking for equal representation of your interracial relationships.

Yup

that's why other bm need to stop with the bedbuck and shaming black men who date out because bw arent on that shyt of shaming bw who date out
:mjlol: Bedbuck and shaming has not and will never stop black men from lusting after nonblack women.


I guess you all are feeling like you’re being oppressed from being able to openly love your nonblack women.:mjlol:


Pawg in peace.. lol
 
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Nah he's not weird. We should feel some type of way when the media is everyday actively trying to portray that IR is the way to happiness. As if showing black love is toxic. I rarely see black love on TV and my kids see that shyt too so its very upsetting.

It's the evolution of the
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brain washing tactic.
 
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