What about player effort? Players throwing games on purpose for the narratives?
That stupid fukking Believeland documentary was icing on the cake
The Art Of Rigging NBA Games?
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That stupid fukking Believeland documentary was icing on the cake
duckbutta
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I don't get what people don't get about rigging nba games...
Nobody rigs a game to make sure that the other team wins...that is not possible...
But what the nba does repeatedly do is rig the game so one team is allowed to play defense one way and the other team has to play defense another way...
The OKC and GS series should have told you this...OKC was just mugging in the paint every single time in games 3 and 4...every single rebound they just flew over somebody back...anytime GS shot in the paint they had two and three people challenging the shot and somehow it was never a foul...for every 3 times 5678 fell down he went to the line once...shyt got so bad that when Klay almost single handily brought GS back the refs called him for what...his fourth foul...and then as soon as the refs stopped doing that...as soon as 2 out of every 3 whistles stopped going OKC way...what happened? They lost 3 straight games...
Or how about last year in that GS Memphis game where Gasol got 4 or 5 fouls in what...3 or 4 minutes...do you really think that is logical? You really think a dude can play over 20 minutes of basketball and commit one foul...and then foul out in less than 5 minutes...in the same game?
How about in 2014 game 3 SA OKC where OKC somehow shot around 20 freethrows in the second quarter and the spurs shot...0? One team does not get fouled in the act of shooting for 12 minutes and one team gets freethrows on 1 out of every 2 attemtps...
How about game 5 SA OKC this year where at the exact same time the Spurs have around double the amount of points in the paint than OKC...OKC was shooting 4 times as many freethrows as the Spurs...which flies in the face of pretty much any logical argument about the sport of basketball
It's weird to me that people buy this "they turned up their intensity on defense...they became more aggressive...they are going for rebounds harder"
...of course they are...because the first time they blatantly fouled someone it was a no call...second time it was a no call...3rd time it was a no call...so of course the next time the ball is in the air Barnes is just going to run up Kevin Love back with an elbow with no fukks given...
Before the NBA is a sport...it is entertainment...before it is entertainment...it is a business...somebody tell me the multibillion dollar industry in this world that doesn't have some shady shyt going on?
fukking 5678 shot a 3 and slapped Iggy on the head while he was standing their and it was a foul on Iggy...and people still be like "the nba is not rigged"
People wondering why their are so many blowouts in the playoffs...uh...how could there not be...what other outcome could their be when you pit evenly matched teams against each other and the refs consistently let one team get away with everything and let the other team get away with nothing...
fukking 5678 straight
with the ball at midcourt but it wasn't a travel though...and the nba is not rigged
NBA straight up telling you how many missed calls they have at the nba but it's not rigged
Nobody rigs a game to make sure that the other team wins...that is not possible...
But what the nba does repeatedly do is rig the game so one team is allowed to play defense one way and the other team has to play defense another way...
The OKC and GS series should have told you this...OKC was just mugging in the paint every single time in games 3 and 4...every single rebound they just flew over somebody back...anytime GS shot in the paint they had two and three people challenging the shot and somehow it was never a foul...for every 3 times 5678 fell down he went to the line once...shyt got so bad that when Klay almost single handily brought GS back the refs called him for what...his fourth foul...and then as soon as the refs stopped doing that...as soon as 2 out of every 3 whistles stopped going OKC way...what happened? They lost 3 straight games...
Or how about last year in that GS Memphis game where Gasol got 4 or 5 fouls in what...3 or 4 minutes...do you really think that is logical? You really think a dude can play over 20 minutes of basketball and commit one foul...and then foul out in less than 5 minutes...in the same game?
How about in 2014 game 3 SA OKC where OKC somehow shot around 20 freethrows in the second quarter and the spurs shot...0? One team does not get fouled in the act of shooting for 12 minutes and one team gets freethrows on 1 out of every 2 attemtps...
How about game 5 SA OKC this year where at the exact same time the Spurs have around double the amount of points in the paint than OKC...OKC was shooting 4 times as many freethrows as the Spurs...which flies in the face of pretty much any logical argument about the sport of basketball
It's weird to me that people buy this "they turned up their intensity on defense...they became more aggressive...they are going for rebounds harder"
...of course they are...because the first time they blatantly fouled someone it was a no call...second time it was a no call...3rd time it was a no call...so of course the next time the ball is in the air Barnes is just going to run up Kevin Love back with an elbow with no fukks given...Before the NBA is a sport...it is entertainment...before it is entertainment...it is a business...somebody tell me the multibillion dollar industry in this world that doesn't have some shady shyt going on?
fukking 5678 shot a 3 and slapped Iggy on the head while he was standing their and it was a foul on Iggy...and people still be like "the nba is not rigged"
People wondering why their are so many blowouts in the playoffs...uh...how could there not be...what other outcome could their be when you pit evenly matched teams against each other and the refs consistently let one team get away with everything and let the other team get away with nothing...
fukking 5678 straight
with the ball at midcourt but it wasn't a travel though...and the nba is not riggedNBA straight up telling you how many missed calls they have at the nba but it's not rigged
Bilz
Superstar
Its much simpler than that. Most games are within 3-4 possessions. It isn't hard at all to give one team a couple 50-50 calls and then call a couple legit fouls on one team that you would have let slide for the other. That could easily be done without anyone even noticing.You can't rig shots going in.....
Sometimes teams shoot so well they overcome it (see Warriors vs Grizzlies series a couple years ago). The Kobe Achilles game was the most ridiculously fixed game I've ever seen and if Curry's full court heave doesn't rim out, the refs would have been helpless to stop it.
Tim donaghy
#SOG_soldier
New York knicks and phoenix suns stan
Common sense
A dude went to federal prison specifically for rigging games.
League found out it wasn't just him, but a lot of their other refs that were also doing it. Said they "closed the loophole."
Stern to allow limited gambling among refs
All 56 refs at the time had been betting on gsmes.
It's not outright proof that they were rigging (Although Donaghy was), but obviously all those refs were looking out for each other and giving each other inside information and calls to help each other win. Basically a huge gambling pool where they themselves control the outcome of all games.
That is actually worse than the Donagy scandal, but the NBA casually slid that under the rug.
Plus you have actual series evidence of blatantly horrific officiating.
2002 WCF Lakers shot 27 FTs in the 4th Quarter.
2006 Finals Wade shot more FTs than entire opposing team 2 times in the series. Set NBA record for most FTs in a 6 game series.
You can't rig the ball going in, but you can rig the game by controlling lineups and player availability by foul assessment and the obvious point and score manipulation by giving teams/players FTs.
After the Donaghy scandal, anybody who doesn't thing the league was rigged in the 2000s is just a blind stan who probably thinks the FBI isn't real.
League found out it wasn't just him, but a lot of their other refs that were also doing it. Said they "closed the loophole."
Stern to allow limited gambling among refs
All 56 refs at the time had been betting on gsmes.
It's not outright proof that they were rigging (Although Donaghy was), but obviously all those refs were looking out for each other and giving each other inside information and calls to help each other win. Basically a huge gambling pool where they themselves control the outcome of all games.
That is actually worse than the Donagy scandal, but the NBA casually slid that under the rug.
Plus you have actual series evidence of blatantly horrific officiating.
2002 WCF Lakers shot 27 FTs in the 4th Quarter.
2006 Finals Wade shot more FTs than entire opposing team 2 times in the series. Set NBA record for most FTs in a 6 game series.
You can't rig the ball going in, but you can rig the game by controlling lineups and player availability by foul assessment and the obvious point and score manipulation by giving teams/players FTs.
After the Donaghy scandal, anybody who doesn't thing the league was rigged in the 2000s is just a blind stan who probably thinks the FBI isn't real.
CJ
Your objective semi-troll
One game I'll never forget was the one below. This was one example of seeing a player deliberately being involved. Most that bet on NBA probably know that the TNT Thursday night lines are tight as hell, mainly due to the fact there is usually only 2 games - so they have Vegas' full attention.
I had the over of 192/192.5 for this game. Bet heavy as shyt on it. It was pretty much out of reach until DeShawn Stevenson started knocking a few 3s in the final minute. The vid below, the total score at this time was sitting at 191, and that's when KD does this:
Thunder already had it in the bag so he wasn't going to shoot the ball. This dude HANDS it to Carlisle, gets whistled for the turnover
You even see Rick and Steve Javie trying not to laugh about it.
Mavs ball. DeShawn comes down, and nails a 3 to end the game. OVER hits. Lost my God damn mind.
You see alot as it is just because you watch the games even closer when betting, mainly with officiating (hockey too as you'll see a team get a penalty in the final 2 minutes, just for a chance to score/tie it and force an OT and nail the Over)
But this one takes that cake for me. Will never forget it.
I had the over of 192/192.5 for this game. Bet heavy as shyt on it. It was pretty much out of reach until DeShawn Stevenson started knocking a few 3s in the final minute. The vid below, the total score at this time was sitting at 191, and that's when KD does this:
Thunder already had it in the bag so he wasn't going to shoot the ball. This dude HANDS it to Carlisle, gets whistled for the turnover
You even see Rick and Steve Javie trying not to laugh about it.Mavs ball. DeShawn comes down, and nails a 3 to end the game. OVER hits. Lost my God damn mind.
You see alot as it is just because you watch the games even closer when betting, mainly with officiating (hockey too as you'll see a team get a penalty in the final 2 minutes, just for a chance to score/tie it and force an OT and nail the Over)
But this one takes that cake for me. Will never forget it.
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LeflaurLeflahEshkoshka
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I don't get what people don't get about rigging nba games...
Nobody rigs a game to make sure that the other team wins...that is not possible...
But what the nba does repeatedly do is rig the game so one team is allowed to play defense one way and the other team has to play defense another way...
The OKC and GS series should have told you this...OKC was just mugging in the paint every single time in games 3 and 4...every single rebound they just flew over somebody back...anytime GS shot in the paint they had two and three people challenging the shot and somehow it was never a foul...for every 3 times 5678 fell down he went to the line once...shyt got so bad that when Klay almost single handily brought GS back the refs called him for what...his fourth foul...and then as soon as the refs stopped doing that...as soon as 2 out of every 3 whistles stopped going OKC way...what happened? They lost 3 straight games...
Or how about last year in that GS Memphis game where Gasol got 4 or 5 fouls in what...3 or 4 minutes...do you really think that is logical? You really think a dude can play over 20 minutes of basketball and commit one foul...and then foul out in less than 5 minutes...in the same game?
How about in 2014 game 3 SA OKC where OKC somehow shot around 20 freethrows in the second quarter and the spurs shot...0? One team does not get fouled in the act of shooting for 12 minutes and one team gets freethrows on 1 out of every 2 attemtps...
How about game 5 SA OKC this year where at the exact same time the Spurs have around double the amount of points in the paint than OKC...OKC was shooting 4 times as many freethrows as the Spurs...which flies in the face of pretty much any logical argument about the sport of basketball
It's weird to me that people buy this "they turned up their intensity on defense...they became more aggressive...they are going for rebounds harder"
Before the NBA is a sport...it is entertainment...before it is entertainment...it is a business...somebody tell me the multibillion dollar industry in this world that doesn't have some shady shyt going on?
fukking 5678 shot a 3 and slapped Iggy on the head while he was standing their and it was a foul on Iggy...and people still be like "the nba is not rigged"
People wondering why their are so many blowouts in the playoffs...uh...how could there not be...what other outcome could their be when you pit evenly matched teams against each other and the refs consistently let one team get away with everything and let the other team get away with nothing...
fukking 5678 straight
NBA straight up telling you how many missed calls they have at the nba but it's not rigged
It took me a long time to come to this realization but sadly it's true. I still love the NBA but it's hard not to wonder something shady is going on when you see the inconsistency with refereeing. Refs really set the tone for the game and it sucks.
Someone remind me of the name of that NBA ref that got caught up in some gambling shyt like 8 yrs and started telling on everybody and got his legs broken in jail. I think he wrote a book too
Edit: nvm name is mentioned in above posts
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I read some article the stated its rare that a player will fix games. However, the refs and THE COACHING STAFF ITSELF are more to blame. Refs blatantly miss calls, but the coaches willing install the wrong strategies against teams to create a losing outcome. I know as fans we are dumbfounded by certain "adjustments" coaches make. So if this allegation is true, maybe certain coaching decisions can at least be understood.
I don't get what people don't get about rigging nba games...
Nobody rigs a game to make sure that the other team wins...that is not possible...
But what the nba does repeatedly do is rig the game so one team is allowed to play defense one way and the other team has to play defense another way...
The OKC and GS series should have told you this...OKC was just mugging in the paint every single time in games 3 and 4...every single rebound they just flew over somebody back...anytime GS shot in the paint they had two and three people challenging the shot and somehow it was never a foul...for every 3 times 5678 fell down he went to the line once...shyt got so bad that when Klay almost single handily brought GS back the refs called him for what...his fourth foul...and then as soon as the refs stopped doing that...as soon as 2 out of every 3 whistles stopped going OKC way...what happened? They lost 3 straight games...
Or how about last year in that GS Memphis game where Gasol got 4 or 5 fouls in what...3 or 4 minutes...do you really think that is logical? You really think a dude can play over 20 minutes of basketball and commit one foul...and then foul out in less than 5 minutes...in the same game?
How about in 2014 game 3 SA OKC where OKC somehow shot around 20 freethrows in the second quarter and the spurs shot...0? One team does not get fouled in the act of shooting for 12 minutes and one team gets freethrows on 1 out of every 2 attemtps...
How about game 5 SA OKC this year where at the exact same time the Spurs have around double the amount of points in the paint than OKC...OKC was shooting 4 times as many freethrows as the Spurs...which flies in the face of pretty much any logical argument about the sport of basketball
It's weird to me that people buy this "they turned up their intensity on defense...they became more aggressive...they are going for rebounds harder"
Before the NBA is a sport...it is entertainment...before it is entertainment...it is a business...somebody tell me the multibillion dollar industry in this world that doesn't have some shady shyt going on?
fukking 5678 shot a 3 and slapped Iggy on the head while he was standing their and it was a foul on Iggy...and people still be like "the nba is not rigged"
People wondering why their are so many blowouts in the playoffs...uh...how could there not be...what other outcome could their be when you pit evenly matched teams against each other and the refs consistently let one team get away with everything and let the other team get away with nothing...
fukking 5678 straight
NBA straight up telling you how many missed calls they have at the nba but it's not rigged
I agree with this, that's basically how they rig games, this shyt started from about late 80s early 90s when NBA basketball became international thing, they started changing defensive rules making the game less and less physical so refs could start blowing whistles like crazy which can easily kill the momentum of a team. I'm pretty sure someone could make a good highlight reel of phantom fouls on jordan. Yet he could play hard defense on anyone. That shyt started what we have today.
that kings lakers game 6 was arguably the best example and what did nba do? nothing, and with each year they implement bunch of rules that now every criticism targeted towards refs lands you nba fine. Efficient way of shutting down players coaches opinion on refs so casual fans could worry less about the reffing.
Bilz
Superstar
One game I'll never forget was the one below. This was an example of players being involved. Most that bet on NBA probably know that the TNT Thursday night lines are tight as hell, mainly due to the fact there is usually only 2 games - so they have Vegas' full attention.
I had the over of 192/192.5 for this game. Bet heavy as shyt on it. It was pretty much out of reach until DeShawn Stevenson starting knock a few 3s in the final minute. The vid below, the total score at this time was sitting at 191, and that's when KD does this:
Thunder already had it in the bag so he wasn't going to shoot the ball. This dude HANDS it to Carlisle, gets whistled for the turnover
Mavs ball. DeShawn comes down, and nails a 3 to end the game. OVER hits. Lost my God damn mind.
You see alot as it is just because you watch the games even closer when betting, mainly with officiating (hockey too as you'll see a team get a penalty in the final 2 minutes, just for a chance to score/tie it and force an OT and nail the Over)
But this one takes that cake for me. Will never forget it.
This happens a lot. Sometimes it will be a 6 point game with 3 secs left and a guy will randomly foul. The player makes the free throws and then the other team inbounds and doesn't take another shot. Then you check the spread and the over and those two points hit the over and/or beat the spread
ReggieFlare
Superstar
You can't rig shots going in.....
Rims can be controlled remotely. There's a device that operators use to shift it. It's slight, but it can make a difference....y'all sleep though
CJ
Your objective semi-troll
Yep most definitely, but this I hadn't seen. HANDING the ball to the opposing coach during live possessionThis happens a lot. Sometimes it will be a 6 point game with 3 secs left and a guy will randomly foul. The player makes the free throws and then the other team inbounds and doesn't take another shot. Then you check the spread and the over and those two points hit the over and/or beat the spread
ItWasWritten
Superstar
Do yo guys think in 2011 Lebron was apart of this in the finals? That performance was inexcusable and a head scratcher to say the least
ReggieFlare
Superstar
He was under orders from the commissioner to lose to Dallas that year. It was to continue to generate fuel for viewership the next season. It was also to help fuel the narrative that LeBron needed to be the leader of the team, as if they had won that year D.Wade would have likely gotten finals MVP.
After that, there were no more restrictions on his play and he was allowed to do whatever.
