The Bear - TV Series (Hulu/Starring Lip From Shameless/Trailer)

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damn y’all a tough crowd..this show can seem pretentious at times but the acting in the last two eps was elite imo
The people can act. That ain't the problem:mjlol:

This is what happens to people when you try to stretch a show out because it's popular and you're greedy. Season 3 wasn't about anything, and according to what nikkas saying season 4 ain't about anything either. You can't string people along forever
 

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The people can act. That ain't the problem:mjlol:

This is what happens to people when you try to stretch a show out because it's popular and you're greedy. Season 3 wasn't about anything, and according to what nikkas saying season 4 ain't about anything either. You can't string people along forever

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. .. . series cant end without confirmation whether or not Marcus is a Harlem-resident . . .. .. im assuming thats why he keeps duckin his pops . . .

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... i was taught against this type of male-bonding . . .. good luck to everybody else . .

 

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.....fukk this fart factory . stream it on Hulu and see who invested Ad money in this shyt . . . they gonnna stretch this shyt like Prison Break .. . the family drama shyt. . . . .. . . i think i might be done . . .. .

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*sigh*

I used to enjoy seeking out others reactions b/c I think I was looking for others to validate my feelings on media. I was into something, so I sought out others into the same thing to share in that joy.

Now, even in a series that is overwhelmingly loved and awarded, the only comments to be found are those to pick apart and criticize and ask for what the series was never offering in the first place and endless etcetera...

Like, it's not supposed to be going anywhere.

Every goddamn voice that sprouted up about SSN 3 &/or 4 and is commenting about a fukking linear episodic narrative about this restaurant is missing the entire point of the show regarding the food and business and success of such being completely ancillary and arbitrary to the character arcs going on.

Yes, Richie is finding success and purpose through this venture but it's the vehicle for his character; not the show emphasis itself.

Let the show be the show; don't have your fan fiction of what you want it to be overwrite the narrative they're portraying.

I'm automatically dismissing any opinion saying these last two seasons aren't moving the story forward.

Reexamine how you determine a story arc.
 

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this syd episode feels forced

It was built up all season to that point with her ducking her Dad's communication while he's progressively ailing and beyond that with her trying to rebuild her independence from her father after the safety net he provided her during the entire run of the show.

How the fukk is a core element of the narrative 'forced'? Was Sug giving birth 'forced' with a season +1/2 of build up? They're intentionally mirrored episodes with Clare bear providing the off kilter comfort DD did for Sugar.

Feel how you want, I just don't get that takeaway at all...
 

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It was built up all season to that point with her ducking her Dad's communication while he's progressively ailing and beyond that with her trying to rebuild her independence from her father after the safety net he provided her during the entire run of the show.

How the fukk is a core element of the narrative 'forced'? Was Sug giving birth 'forced' with a season +1/2 of build up? They're intentionally mirrored episodes with Clare bear providing the off kilter comfort DD did for Sugar.

Feel how you want, I just don't get that takeaway at all...
lol i wrote that mid episode, by the end of it i did appreciate it.
 

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*sigh*

I used to enjoy seeking out others reactions b/c I think I was looking for others to validate my feelings on media. I was into something, so I sought out others into the same thing to share in that joy.

Now, even in a series that is overwhelmingly loved and awarded, the only comments to be found are those to pick apart and criticize and ask for what the series was never offering in the first place and endless etcetera...

Like, it's not supposed to be going anywhere.

Every goddamn voice that sprouted up about SSN 3 &/or 4 and is commenting about a fukking linear episodic narrative about this restaurant is missing the entire point of the show regarding the food and business and success of such being completely ancillary and arbitrary to the character arcs going on.

Yes, Richie is finding success and purpose through this venture but it's the vehicle for his character; not the show emphasis itself.

Let the show be the show; don't have your fan fiction of what you want it to be overwrite the narrative they're portraying.

I'm automatically dismissing any opinion saying these last two seasons aren't moving the story forward.

Reexamine how you determine a story arc.
hmmm...I think that you'll find many of the major voices stating some disappointment with this season; Greenwald, Vulture, among others.

I don't agree with this take, but I respect your opinion. The show is about a restaurant in Chicago. The last two seasons have had so little to do with that, and more with existential conversations that simply don't occur on kitchens on a regular basis. This is hipster wankerism at it's most self-indulgent. This has noting to do with linearity. Restaurants don't put doomsday clocks in their kitchens. They don't hire comically inept FOH people that have their goofy family members. They don't continue to pump out a different menu daily when they haven't achieved any sort of real notoriety. The show is the equivalent of trying to turn Al's Beef into Avec; as someone who's known people at both places, the concept is patently ridiculous. You staff your kitchen with the right staff for the kitchen. Not having a young Mexican, Filipino, or Greek kid BOH? Where are we supposed to be? No interactions with the city outside of a few quick montages? No local customer interactions after season 2? No health inspector arc? Why am I supposed to care about JLC and how she was a sit mom? If I wanted to watch Nick Nolte yell at people, at least 48 Hours has jokes. This show is supposed to be about a restaurant. Yes, everyone has a past that influences us, but it was too much of her. They are trying to emulate on a level what Charlie Trotter went through, but the man was a fukking genius that had two stars before he got out of the game (in a terrible way).

I'm not sure what this show is trying to do, and that's a damning indictment from someone who, like many others who've followed this show from jump and were mesmerized by the first two seasons, really wanted this thing to work. By work, I guess I mean to emotionally or structurally pay off, neither of which was done by season's end. The annoying aspect of this ambiguity is that the potential success of the Bear isn't even explicitly tied to Syd and Richie remaining; it's economically more viable if they continue to maximize efficiencies with the takeout window by potentially franchising.

Do you see how that doesn't make any fukking sense? Why do through all of this exposition to get back to a place where everyone, community included (if we're keeping it a buck) is better served by the Bear simply being the Beef (again)? Ultimately, if this is the best that Chis Storey could do about telling a story about a restaurant in Chicago, I think he did a somewhat disappointing job. I think the last two season removed or ignored many of the things that made the first two so believable and relatable.
 
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