The Breakfast Club - Bernie Sanders Interview: Talks Reparations, Prison Reform & His Black Agenda

SleezyBigSlim

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So do people ONLY want money for reparations?

it HAS to be money? Nothing else?

Seems like people are willing to throw any kind of help or assistance by the wayside that isn't financial compensation

Bernie has talked about
-federal jobs guarantee (helps black ppl)
-public colleges/universities tuition-free (helps black ppl. Not only poor, but also middle class)
Medicare for all (Helps poor and middle-class blacks)
-Drastically lower prescription drug prices (clearly helps blacks, poor and middle class)
-Ending the drug war (helps poor and middle class)
-Ending the Prison Industrial Complex

List goes on.

how are these NOT tangibles? Someone please, honestly explain

So we don't want those things because they help out other races as well? Thats no different than white people not voting for benefits that help them because those benefits will also help black people.
We don't want none of that bullshyt because in the end ADOS won't benefit from that. Pratically all the assistance the government offers and programs like affirmative action was supposed to help ADOS but other groups benefited a lot more then ADOS. I mean did you see the thread on Howard University's ADOS enrollment for the med school? Zero ADOS enrolled in a school that was built for ADOS. The problem is systematic and not some lazy nikka problem which is a false narrative concocted by racist cacs that a lot of our own ADOS fall for.
 

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For me the issue with cash payout reparations is that the mathematics of it don't work out. There's what, 45 million African Americans? So what's a reasonable amount? It can't be too low or else it wouldn't be adequate reparations for the crimes and the injustices African Americans have suffered over the hundreds of years. If you give a low payout then that's it, end of story, the government's hands are washed clean forever. Every time the question of addressing specifically black issues comes up, they're just gonna be like "we already paid reparations, what more can we do." The number has to be high because no government will make an African American agenda their priority for a long time if cash payout reparations is made. You have to keep the end game in mind, what happens after reparations? What's the next thing the government needs to provide? They likely won't do it for a long time.

So what's a reasonable number? Let's go with 100,000 for each individual. I think that's a fair amount, it's about two year's salary tax-free. It should be enough to justify the fact that no government will make addressing black issues a priority for the next several decades.

100,000 x 45 million = 4 500 000 000 000. That's $4.5 trillion in total.

The 2017 GDP of the US was $19.39 trillion. A reparations payout of 100,000 dollars each is almost 25% of the total annual GDP of the US. The problem is that total government revenues in 2017 was just 17.3% of GDP, $3.3 trillion. So the reparations payout would more than wipe out total government revenue for a single year, which means everything else - social security, medicare, medicaid, defense, transport, education, housing, and all other government expenditure - has to take a time out for a couple of years. It's not possible under the present tax schemes.

Now if you think a lower amount is acceptable then I would say you're mistaken because once reparations have been made the political will for addressing black issues will evaporate. Nothing is ever for free, reparations are a trade off. The cost you pay for reparations is that politically black issues will take a back seat. So you've got to make sure that your political capital is exchanged for a decent amount of money, otherwise you're being ripped off.

I think the best solution would be payments in cash and kind. So something like $100,000 in total value, but only $20,000 of it issued through cash. The rest can be made up through things like debt forgiveness, providing government jobs, awarding government contracts to black businesses, tax breaks for black families and businesses, guaranteed free or subsidised education and health care, and so on.
 

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We don't want none of that bullshyt because in the end ADOS won't benefit from that. Pratically all the assistance the government offers and programs like affirmative action was supposed to help ADOS but other groups benefited a lot more then ADOS. I mean did you see the thread on Howard University's ADOS enrollment for the med school? Zero ADOS enrolled in a school that was built for ADOS. The problem is systematic and not some lazy nikka problem which is a false narrative concocted by racist cacs that a lot of our own ADOS fall for.
That was meant to help white women first and foremost and "minorities" secondly
 

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Full agent mode.


Tell black people not to seek redress for centuries of oppression and violence crehs


And the end of the day the result is the same, white people are telling you to your face that they won’t give any money to redress the evils they have committed.

So what now?
 

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And the end of the day the result is the same, white people are telling you to your face that they won’t give any money to redress the evils they have committed.

So what now?
It’s a progress... no different the socialism movement for M4A or a living wage.
You have to be committed and fight through everyone you crazy and saying itll never work.

So many nikkas on here understand incrementalism until it’s for blacks then it’s “quit being ridiculous”
:deadmanny:
 

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If y'all really thought the country that has done what they have to us would give us money in return for it then y'all really don't understand how racist this country really is.


Even if Bernie was for it you think that shyt is getting passed in Congress:mjlol:


His programs targeting incarceration, drug decriminalization, college tuition and health care reform are the best you'll get from white people at this point. The rest is going to be up to us.
 

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It's a bad comparison because the magnitude of something that would cost almost the entire GDP of the United States isn't comparable to something that costs a couple of billion. Not really sure what you're having a hard time understanding.

It's like complaining about your parents not being able to afford to buy you a Bugatti since they were able to afford giving your little brother a big wheel.
Bruh its not no one and done everybody gets a check at once...it would be a gradual thing...like a war tab...slowly pay it out so it doesn't bankrupt the country...i said that already...I honestly see no reason why it can't work...I see that u feel its too much...they got compensated for genocide as should we....that's all I'm sayin...that number is a reasonable number because thats the wealth disparity between black and white households...level the playing field and if shyt still flop ain't got no one to blame but us...
 

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It’s a progress... no different the socialism movement for M4A or a living wage.
You have to be committed and fight through everyone you crazy and saying itll never work.

So many nikkas on here understand incrementalism until it’s for blacks then it’s “quit being ridiculous”
:deadmanny:


Fair enough :ehh:
 
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