The Steelers are the Walmart of the NFL
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The Case Against Mike Tomlin...
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I think Gibbs is criminally underrated. He won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs, none of whom were hall of famers.
His 1991 team is one of the best teams of all time.
You’re absolutely right. Forgot all about Gibbs. Man had some monster teams.
I do agree Parcells had a lot of those great defensive players that were the backbone of this first 3 rings (besides Harrison in the final 2 of those 3 and Vrabel) I do think that the D was more responsible than Brady was at that time.
Where would you rank Joe Gibbs? 3 SB wins with 3 different QBs and even came back after a 12 year absence and made the playoffs 2 out of 4 years.
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I think Gibbs is at least top 5 of all time.
In terms of influence(the WCO is the basis of how the game is played still), coaching, drafting and a coaching tree - I can't see how Walsh isn't the best coach of all time
Heelmatic
The Carolina Blueprint
Didn’t Bruce Arians come from Pittsburgh? And Beli has a better coaching tree from his time with the Browns than his 20+ years in NE.
Good question. I grew up a Cowboy fan so I’m familiar with those redskin teams. You have to rank Gibbs right up there as well. Anytime you win multiple SB with different QB’s that speaks to an outstanding philosophy and the coaching to go with it. It’s a shame his name isn’t brought up more.
That’s my only knock against Bellichek. He had that 11-5 year with Cassell, but all of his success came with Brady. Then Brady went on to another title without him. Without Brady I think he’d be recognized as one of the all time defensive minds, but I wonder what his legacy as a HC would be.
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One more interesting tidbit about coaching trees:
The Pittsburgh Steelers have the most diverse coaching staff in the NFL, with over two-thirds of the staff identifying as a coach of color.
Maybe this also has something to do with why Tomlin's coaches are hardly poached
The Pittsburgh Steelers have the most diverse coaching staff in the NFL, with over two-thirds of the staff identifying as a coach of color.
Maybe this also has something to do with why Tomlin's coaches are hardly poached
Yeah now that I’m thinking about it I’d have Walsh 1 and Parcells 1A. Walsh has a nasty coaching tree. Holmgren, Shanahan, Seifort, Wyche, Dennis Green, Ray Rhodes, etc.. Never lost a SB. Excellent personnel man and X’s and O’s coach.
I don't think anyone would consider Arians under a hypothetical Tomlin coaching tree. He was the Browns offensive coordinator before he ever came to Pittsburgh. He was with other NFL teams under various coaching positions before the Browns as well.
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I think I may have misread your post as you saying Arians is under a Tomlin coaching tree and not an impressive hire.
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Heelmatic
The Carolina Blueprint
I just knew he was the OC under Tomlin when he first got hired, but I see he was already with the Steelers and Tomlin promoted him.
the Rooneys and Kraft are very different types of owners
the Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969. I just looked it up and the Patriots had 14 in that timespan. Rooneys are clearly a lot more committed to organizational stability and consistency.
Born2BKing
Veteran
He ready to run it back
www.espn.com
Tomlin on teams eyeing trade: 'Save your time'
Mike Tomlin has a message for any team considering inquiring with the Steelers about his availability in a potential trade. "Save your time," he said Tuesday.
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
as a Ravens fan I would love it if they fired Tomlin
one less team in the division we’d have to worry about
one less team in the division we’d have to worry about