The Coli Makes Me Think About Racism 10 Times More

[Michael's Black Son]

nothing wrong with keeping your "They Live" glasses on for more than 2 seconds and seeing a tiny glimpse of a portion of how shyt really is

 

[kp404]

gays came through and made more progress than nikkas
im not saying homies on the coli is at fault but the truth is black people are divided , way too divided to stick together

My point is that gays haven't had the hegemonic forces we have had that created these deep, oppressive divisions...but, we can change the division...the good thing is that the majority of blacks are poor or working class, so we only have to bring together the few elites that are outside our circle...education and developing trends that are related to history can be very useful at all classes in black society

 

[Matt504]

gays came through and made more progress than nikkas
im not saying homies on the coli is at fault but the truth is black people are divided , way too divided to stick together

why are we divided, why can't nikkas seem to get it together, are we born this way?

is there something genetically wrong with us that causes us to not get along with each other?

what's the problem with Black people that Mexicans seem to have overcome, because they have NO problems getting along living 10 deep in a house and saving money to get everybody a house all while sending money to Mexico.

 

[Kenny West]

this thread is real

It's a blessing cause this forum is one of few places I can have honest discussions about race with intelligent black folks

But a curse in a number of ways. lowkey some of these dudes are actual racists themselves. Then theres the cac this cac that vernacular. nikkas looking for the approval of white folks like they searching for an estranged dad's love. threads complaining about how black women style their hair . and don't forget the militant dudes searching for shyt to get offended by like even your most fat liberal feminists (see the Katy Perry thread )

Before this forum I never really gave a fukk about what white people think. I'm thankful for the dialogue that helped me peep the game of this country but sometimes you read posts on this bytch like Shut the fukk up

 

[Matt504]

this thread is real

It's a blessing cause this forum is one of few places I can have honest discussions about race with intelligent black folks

But a curse in a number of ways. lowkey some of these dudes are actual racists themselves. Then theres the cac this cac that vernacular. nikkas looking for the approval of white folks like they searching for an estranged dad's love. threads complaining about how black women style their hair . and don't forget the militant dudes searching for shyt to get offended by like even your most fat liberal feminists (see the Katy Perry thread )

Before this forum I never really gave a fukk about what white people think. I'm thankful for the dialogue that helped me peep the game of this country but sometimes you read posts on this bytch like Shut the fukk up

that's all we can do is provoke thought and get a dialogue going, through forums I've discovered that even brothers over seas in London are dealing with the same shyt as we are and I've heard different viewpoints from brothers and sisters all over the United States, we may not always agree with each other but it's a step in the right direction.

I love hip hop, women and music videos, but I really appreciate being able to discuss our collective condition and pass around ideas of what we can do to help improve it as well as learning and educating others on the system of white supremacy and how it operates, that's something that each and every Black person should understand, in my opinion.

 

[aXiom]

I think it can...maybe not in my lifetime, but we can be the building blocks to something that happens long after we are gone for our lineage to enjoy non-hegemonic society...I'm optimistic breh

Nothing wrong with that, just as long as you don't lose grasp of reality.

The education system and at the rates at which blacks are dropping out of school is all fukked up. We're approaching an era where there'll be no place in society for the unskilled/uneducated. This isn't the 80s where you could drop out of school and still be ok. The cost of living has been constantly outpacing the minimum wage. That's not a good look.

 

[Dwolf]

Ever since i started using this site regularly

Log off.

 

[kp404]

Nothing wrong with that, just as long as you don't lose grasp of reality.

The education system and at the rates at which blacks are dropping out of school is all fukked up. We're approaching an era where there'll be no place in society for the unskilled/uneducated. This isn't the 80s where you could drop out of school and still be ok. The cost of living has been constantly outpacing the minimum wage. That's not a good look.

Everything you are saying is absolutely correct...we are in a New Nadir where we are being politically subjugated with neo-disenfranchisement (hypersegregation is creating new political voting blocs that hurt our voice), economic exploitation (corporate capitalism), and state sponsored and private white violence (lynchings through conceal and carry, etc.)...we are really fukked up right now...but we have a large majority poor and working class that can be united if the black intellectuals and social activists engage in social movements and re-education programs in the black community and local black leadership challenges the state and federal oppression that violates their power...what I'm saying is shyt is really fukked up right now, but their are people in place and strategies to be learned that can start the removal of oppressive blocks in white supremacy

 

[Matt504]

Nothing wrong with that, just as long as you don't lose grasp of reality.

The education system and at the rates at which blacks are dropping out of school is all fukked up. We're approaching an era where there'll be no place in society for the unskilled/uneducated. This isn't the 80s where you could drop out of school and still be ok. The cost of living has been constantly outpacing the minimum wage. That's not a good look.

it's not by accident either, those drop outs will serve a purpose, they're looked at as walking dollar signs ready to enter into private prisons to help them meet quotas.

time is running out and we need to do wherever we can in effort to help wake up our brothers and sisters to their condition, I'm not saying let's go up to Black people and start telling them about white people, but rather tell them what's going to happen to us if we don't get our act together collectively.

 

[aXiom]

Everything you are saying is absolutely correct...we are in a New Nadir where we are being politically subjugated with neo-disenfranchisement (hypersegregation is creating new political voting blocs that hurt our voice), economic exploitation (corporate capitalism), and state sponsored and private white violence (lynchings through conceal and carry, etc.)...we are really fukked up right now...but we have a large majority poor and working class that can be united if the black intellectuals and social activists engage in social movements and re-education programs in the black community and local black leadership challenges the state and federal oppression that violates their power...what I'm saying is shyt is really fukked up right now, but their are people in place and strategies to be learned that can start the removal of oppressive blocks in white supremacy

it's not by accident either, those drop outs will serve a purpose, they're looked at as walking dollar signs ready to enter into private prisons to help them meet quotas.

time is running out and we need to do wherever we can in effort to help wake up our brothers and sisters to their condition, I'm not saying let's go up to Black people and start telling them about white people, but rather tell them what's going to happen to us if we don't get our act together collectively.

Here's the thing though, and I'm gonna dream for a bit so forgive me. The working class and the poor are in the same boat regardless of race. From the POV of those at the top, silly things like race, gender inequality, sexual orientation ect. don't matter. You're either one of 2 things, rich/powerful or poor/powerless. However, from our POV, those are the things we put most of our time/effort into when we're not at the hamster wheel siphoning away power from us to them. Keep the masses divided and dumb and they're so much more easier to control. They're playing us against ourselves and we're too dumb to realize it. It's fukked up when you realize just how much power the masses hold, but are too weak minded to make any real use of it. We're fighting when we should be uniting which is gonna lead to our demise. The only way I see us ever having a chance of turning things around is if the barriers of race, culture, religion etc. are broken down, but like I said, that's a pipe dream. It's not a black/white/gay/religious thing, because we're all gonna get fukked regardless as it's a war of class. Each passing day we stay divided and ignorant the farther away the chance of having a say in our future slips away.

 

[kp404]

Here's the thing though, and I'm gonna dream for a bit so forgive me. The working class and the poor are in the same boat regardless of race. From the POV of those at the top, silly things like race, gender inequality, sexual orientation ect. don't matter. You're either one of 2 things, rich/powerful or poor/powerless. However, from our POV, those are the things we put most of our time/effort into when we're not at the hamster wheel siphoning away power from us to them. Keep the masses divided and dumb and they're so much more easier to control. They're playing us against ourselves and we're too dumb to realize it. It's fukked up when you realize just how much power the masses hold, but are too weak minded to make any real use of it. We're fighting when we should be uniting which is gonna lead to our demise. The only way I see us ever having a chance of turning things around is if the barriers of race, culture, religion etc. are broken down, but like I said, that's a pipe dream. It's not a black/white/gay/religious thing, because we're all gonna get fukked regardless as it's a war of class. Each passing day we stay divided and ignorant the farther away the chance of having a say in our future slips away.

its not really a pipe dream because we aren't looking for some utopian dream...the things we require, as blacks and as the working/poor class, are attainable through what you mentioned and those barriers can be broken down...we have black intellectuals studying historical trends and presenting data to prove the things we say, people like Cedric Robinson, Joe Trotter, Sundiata Cha-Jua, Clarence Lang, James Jennings, etc...I;m working to join them in these activities...plus the fact that we are all in the community alerting the lower classes of these systems and trust, me besides what you see in the bullshyt media, there are a shytload of poeople who actually care about these things and want to learn ways to combat white supremacy...but of course you won't see that on tv, radio, or major news outlets because that would show that black collectivization is possible, which is counterhegemonic...trust me man, there are people in place working to create change but there is a lot more work to be done. Remember, the people are not ignorant or race and class; they are purposely disinformed due to white supremacist propaganda...its time for us to be the propaganda homie, and sites like this can be a conduit that spreads to other spaces...people know of this site and we have clout, so we need to continue to have these discussions so we can work against the white media and spread the stories, spread the HISTORY.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

I don't think about it. I go outside and see nothing but black.

All I see on here...is wine and cheese.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

I really wanna add to this thread but its late so I'll do more tomorrow. I log on to this forum and sometimes see just how poisoned people are from racism. Nothing but whining..complaining.,divisiveness,.. No planning and absolutely no action. Just a bunch of angry jaded nikkaz tearing anyone and everything they can down without putting much thought into the things they are saying. Your anger is used against you and you can't even see it..all your moves are foreseen way before you make them. You can't fix the present and future by living in the past...and you damn sure can't stop a perpetual cycle by continuing to use to use social constructs that were forced upon you.

The way some of you nikkaz act reminds me how AAs acted when Haitians came to the us in the 70s all the way to the late 90s and even today in places like jerz. Torturing , harassing, and discriminating others the same way the good old boys did to you. An extreme, unproductive, and unfocused way off thinking and energy has been adopted due to the anger and helplessness that's being felt. Motherfukkers hate everyone, I mean everyone from everywhere because you have it in your head they don't like you. you got dudes scared to see the world because they have a fear that everyone is racist..that's why their entire world is their block or city.

Stop being so fukking angry because it makes you weak ewhen you don't channel it into something productive. It changes your whole fukking aura. You can be strong without being angry. The problems are not just gonna go away if you close your eyes and bask in ignorance. Everything is a battle and each step forward is a victory..with enough steps you can get everywhere.

 

[cole phelps]

I really wanna add to this thread but its late so I'll do more tomorrow. I log on to this forum and sometimes see just how poisoned people are from racism. Nothing but whining..complaining.,divisiveness,.. No planning and absolutely no action. Just a bunch of angry jaded nikkaz tearing anyone and everything they can down without putting much thought into the things they are saying. Your anger is used against you and you can't even see it..all your moves are foreseen way before you make them. You can't fix the present and future by living in the past...and you damn sure can't stop a perpetual cycle by continuing to use to use social constructs that were forced upon you.

The way some of you nikkaz act reminds me how AAs acted when Haitians came to the us in the 70s all the way to the late 90s and even today in places like jerz. Torturing , harassing, and discriminating others the same way the good old boys did to you. An extreme, unproductive, and unfocused way off thinking and energy has been adopted due to the anger and helplessness that's being felt. Motherfukkers hate everyone, I mean everyone from everywhere because you have it in your head they don't like you. you got dudes scared to see the world because they have a fear that everyone is racist..that's why their entire world is their block or city.

Stop being so fukking angry because it makes you weak ewhen you don't channel it into something productive. It changes your whole fukking aura. You can be strong without being angry. The problems are not just gonna go away if you close your eyes and bask in ignorance. Everything is a battle and each step forward is a victory..with enough steps you can get everywhere.

I agree and don't get me started on the whole no nikka policy thing its like BREH not EVERY attractive woman will turn you down because your black geez get some pride.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

why are we divided, why can't nikkas seem to get it together, are we born this way?

is there something genetically wrong with us that causes us to not get along with each other?

what's the problem with Black people that Mexicans seem to have overcome, because they have NO problems getting along living 10 deep in a house and saving money to get everybody a house all while sending money to Mexico.

The difference is that Mexicans didn't have to overcome 400 years of chattel slavery and cultural destruction......

http://www.dol.gov/dol/aboutdol/history/moynchapter3.htm
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American slavery was profoundly different from, and in its lasting effects on individuals and their children, indescribably worse than, any recorded servitude, ancient or modern. The peculiar nature of American slavery was noted by Alexis de Tocqueville and others, but it was not until 1948 that Frank Tannenbaum, a South American specialist, pointed to the striking differences between Brazilian and American slavery. The feudal, Catholic society of Brazil had a legal and religious tradition which accorded the slave a place as a human being in the hierarchy of society — a luckless, miserable place, to be sure, but a place withal. In contrast, there was nothing in the tradition of English law or Protestant theology which could accommodate to the fact of human bondage — the slaves were therefore reduced to the status of chattels — often, no doubt, well cared for, even privileged chattels, but chattels nevertheless.

Glazer, also focusing on the Brazil-United States comparison, continues.

"In Brazil, the slave had many more rights than in the United States: he could legally marry, he could, indeed had to, be baptized and become a member of the Catholic Church, his family could not be broken up for sale, and he had many days on which he could either rest or earn money to buy his freedom. The Government encouraged manumission, and the freedom of infants could often be purchased for a small sum at the baptismal font. In short: the Brazilian slave knew he was a man, and that he differed in degree, not in kind, from his master."

"[In the United States,] the slave was totally removed from the protection of organized society (compare the elaborate provisions for the protection of slaves in the Bible), his existence as a human being was given no recognition by any religious or secular agency, he was totally ignorant of and completely cut off from his past, and he was offered absolutely no hope for the future. His children could be sold, his marriage was not recognized, his wife could be violated or sold (there was something comic about calling the woman with whom the master permitted him to live a 'wife'), and he could also be subject, without redress, to frightful barbarities — there were presumably as many sadists among slaveowners, men and women, as there are in other groups. The slave could not, by law, be taught to read or write; he could not practice any religion without the permission of his master, and could never meet with his fellows, for religious or any other purposes, except in the presence of a white; and finally, if a master wished to free him, every legal obstacle was used to thwart such action. This was not what slavery meant in the ancient world, in medieval and early modern Europe, or in Brazil and the West Indies.

"More important, American slavery was also awful in its effects. If we compared the present situation of the American Negro with that of, let us say, Brazilian Negroes (who were slaves 20 years longer), we begin to suspect that the differences are the result of very different patterns of slavery. Today the Brazilian Negroes are Brazilians; though most are poor and do the hard and dirty work of the country, as Negroes do in the United States, they are not cut off from society. They reach into its highest strata, merging there — in smaller and smaller numbers, it is true, but with complete acceptance — with other Brazilians of all kinds. The relations between Negroes and whites in Brazil show nothing of the mass irrationality that prevails in this country."

So, when you ask why it is we have an issue sticking together, it's due to centuries of mental conditioning that presupposed that we wouldn't EVER have any type of stability within our own community unless 'White' people approved of it.

We've only had 'equal rights' under the Constitution for 50 years.​