The Combat Jack Show - The Damon Dash Episode

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Ive actually paid attention to the personalities of people that were either owners, or in high up mgmt positions for awhile.
From what ive seen, most, if not all have no issue w/ being aggressive w/ people. People who have only been workers their whole life dont know what its like directing folks and getting shyt done.
It seems a lot of these cats in hip hop are just fukking sensitive...you add that w/ being lazy and that makes workaholic types CRAZY!!!

I bet Dame was an a$$hole, but the simple fact that a grown ass man could be so heated over being made fun of for a fake jersey all these years later shows you what type of fukkery people like Dame have to put up w/ in the business.
Like he said, Kanye got that shyt done in one day...and I bet Kanye had the same amount of work to do, if not more.
actually thats not what it shows. what it shows. is that the jersey thing, in addition to the other thing he mentioned adds up with all the other things that he never mentioned.
its called a build up.

thats not a sensitive dude talking. thats a dude that was TIRED of Dame Dash.
guess who else was TIRED of Dame? JIGGA.

i called this out when i saw dame wilding out on mr def jam. even though i felt dame 100% in that situation. watching that entire movie made me realize. there's no way you can hang around a grown man that acts like that all the time. acting like that may have been necessary for them to be treated properly when they were coming up. but to do that to your on roc family when it wasnt necessary is where it goes overboard. dame obviously had one way of "getting things done" and that was his way. thats fine. it worked...for a time. people can and will get tired of that.

and its has nothing to do with being A BOSS vs a worker bee. its you do not have to be a complete A hole 24/7 to get your point across. dame knew no other way to handle situations. lets be real about it. thats all the dude knew how to do. that was his only reaction to what he felt when people disrespected his intelligence.

its like you cursing like crazy because thats the only reaction you know to certain situations. the truth is, thats not THEE only way to go about it. and yes you can still get things done.

if people know you aint a joke, and you prove your worth. they will not attempt to play you. people always ASSUME you have to be an Ahole to lead. you dont. just so happen a few A holes have been in leadership roles therefore everyone ASSUMES you have to be like them to become a leader. sorry thats not the case. the reason you dont hear about anyone else being a boss without being an Ahole is because A holes get all the headlines/attention. because they are LOUD and obnoxious . a good leader that leads by example as well as with words when need be. but knows how to keep it professional and respectful. will never be discussed.

its like the difference between a loud mouth rapper flashing all his gold chains vs a dude with paper not wearing any chains at all. the only guy you remember is mr flashy loud mouth, for better or worse.

here's the thing Dame was very passionate about his business. and you need that passion. but passion should not always equate to A holeness, loud mouthery and obnoxiousness.
 

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The thing is Dame went on 10 for his artists. Can't ever fault that. If you can, you're probably not a successful business man.


Also saying he had a roster of tough artists and he was the boss. He's in the company of killers and ex cons and dealers on a daily basis. Just Blaze just had to stay in the room and make beats. He had the opportunity to be soft. Dame on the other hand had to be SUPER TOUGH with everyone. I like how he explained that. You're puss if u can't understand that.


And Yes, Just came off as still soft and sensitive. He wore a fake jersey and had a rhinestone belt in his hand. I'm from the hood. Cats never forget little stuff like that and will snap on you forever. You gotta brush it off or else they will eat you alive. Just ain't grow up around that, that's why he ain't know how to brush it off and take the power out of it. By being mad and feeding into it, you become food. Peeped Dame saying "sorry i hurt your feelings" LOL!!!!
everything you said was 100% accurate. but the point most HOOD dudes miss. is this. the only reason we make people FOOD is because we are ourselves Very VERY sensitive. #1 we're black and cant get equal love we deserve like white folks in america. that takes a toll on you. #2 . you live in the ghetto, where we dont have nothing unless you steal for it, kill for it, or deal for it. that also takes a toll.

the same reason we are ultra flashy when we got 2 bucks. is the same reason we make our own hood homies FOOD when they get caught slippin with a fake jersey & a rhinestone belt.

the loudest dude clowning the most people is and always will be the one of the most sensitive of the bunch. do not be fooled. Dame is extra sensitive. it may be in his DNA or it may be because he lost his mom as a kid. he had to go on full on defense mode to protect himself from the wolves of life since he no longer had a full time parent that would do that for him.
thats why we act like wolves in the streets. pops aint home to be the big bad wolf and keep the other wolves from coming at the fam(you the child, your mother, etc). so You the child, and the mother a lot of times have to go on full on Wild OUT mode to keep people away.

you ever watch the nature channel. The had a show where the female lions didnt have any males around cause they died off. so to keep other males away. they would roar at different points of their territory to make it SEEM as if they had a larger group then they actually had. to keep the "Wolves" away.
the same rule applies here.
 

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Dame is that dude man.

He had a very aggressive approach to things but that was just how much he cared about his products! Dude would have done anything for Jay and the Roc.

He could have cared for his products the same way and had a better approach

Dame isn't the only one to ever achieve success in the industry.
 

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Yeah, he, and Ed woods, had the osse&woods firm that had a lot of hot clients at the time. Ed woods was the guy that Cory & peter gunz was arguing with.

Reggie seemed cool to me, but ed seemed like he talked too much, and his mouth would get him in trouble. Sometimes you got to know when to shut up.

You know Ed Woods? How about Matt?


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Wow....Dame pulled the inner scorned little boy out of Just Blaze. Dont think I can look at Just Blaze the same ever again.






Totally disagree with this....This is seriously unrealistic. If you have a boss its not his job to make sure u are happy. its the bosses job to make sure the employee knows his job.....If u have a boss that means you applied for a job and knew what u were getting into before hand. It is not the drill sergents job to make a new recruit happy. In the movie The Devil Wears Prada the skinny white girl knew that she was jumping into a stressful job. It wasn't Meryl Streeps job to make the skinny white girl happy.

When I say happy, I don't mean :pachaha:, I mean they have a cool environment to work in. If you want your business to survive, without conning people to stay afloat, why would you say you would knock out your main producer or CONSTANTLY put them down?. If anything you make sure they are happy so they don't do things to fukk your shyt up, and move on. There is a time, way, and a place to do things.

Plus, there is a difference from someone working at a job, and being a music producer that is helping your company make millions. A regular worker can be replaced, unless they have extraordinary talent, but someone who helped get your company a solid foundation in the game, is not someone you talk slick to, you want them to keep giving you their best work so you can keep making money.
 

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You know Ed Woods? How about Matt?


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Yeah, I met them at a small BMI get together, and he put me off based on some things he was saying. It wasn't what he was saying necesarily, but how he was saying. When I talked to reggie, I can tell he wasn't a problem to deal with. The type of person I was, I wouldn't let you talk to me a certain way, even if you didn't know you had a problem with me, but I was trying to change my ways, and do something positive, so I tried to avoid certain situations. It didn't work totally, so I had to leave NYC for a minute.

Sorry for the tangent.
 

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Yeah, I met them at a small BMI get together, and he put me off based on some things he was saying. It wasn't what he was saying necesarily, but how he was saying. When I talked to reggie, I can tell he wasn't a problem to deal with. The type of person I was, I wouldn't let you talk to me a certain way, even if you didn't know you had a problem with me, but I was trying to change my ways, and do something positive, so I tried to avoid certain situations. It didn't work totally, so I had to leave NYC for a minute.

Sorry for the tangent.

Nah, all good. I met Matt at the Black Entertainment and Sports lawyers Association event. He was telling me stories about him and Ed back in the day.
 

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Dame ain't never gon change.
he was that way before the money and he still got the same mentality..just toned down with age and some of that fire ain't there anymore.

need an Irv Gotti one next.



or how Jay convinced a dude like Dame (and another guy from Harlem in Biggs) to name their label after a AIDS ridden hustler from BK.

:troll:

I like Dame, don''t get me wrong, but I doubt he would pull that shyt off on someone he knew would fight him back. He knew who to do that with, and who not to. Just like Irv gotti, and them. They thought doing that slick talk shyt wasn't going to get back at them, but they slowly built some enemies. He even played his wife in an old source article, when asked about cheating. I remember when raekwon called him out on his shyt, but I guess rae didn't want to take it too far, BUT when he kept doing that funny shyt, he met someone who didn't care, and would take it there. We all know who that was, 50 CENT.

I heard G-unit was not playing with Murder INC., and they was going at it in prison, as well as the streets. You notice Irv didn't really like to talk about 50 when he saw how real it could get, and 50 wasn't like most industry dudes, and play that slick talk going back, and forth.
 

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Wow....Dame pulled the inner scorned little boy out of Just Blaze. Dont think I can look at Just Blaze the same ever again.






Totally disagree with this....This is seriously unrealistic. If you have a boss its not his job to make sure u are happy. its the bosses job to make sure the employee knows his job.....If u have a boss that means you applied for a job and knew what u were getting into before hand. It is not the drill sergents job to make a new recruit happy. In the movie The Devil Wears Prada the skinny white girl knew that she was jumping into a stressful job. It wasn't Meryl Streeps job to make the skinny white girl happy.


Cosign,makin sure employees are happy can have the opposite effect where shyt don't get done when u tryna be the nice guy....especially I would imagine with rappers,I don't know if hiphop labels have HR departments but Blaze probaly wouldna went and told if they did bcuz it wouldn't be a good look and he would look puzzy....and Dame wuznt his only boss he coulda talked to Jay or Biggs about Dames behavior but I doubt he did cuz he'd look puzzy.....how can u know ya behavior is a problem if nobodys stepping to u to beat that azz,quiting,people still kissin ur azz actin cool with u just so they can be a part of what u building and so they can get to Jay?.....did Jay ever even tell this nikka Dame about himself or did he just leave?


I can never tell Dame or Suge they ran they business wrong,not many rap labels get to where there's got too and make the money there's made.....these rap nikkas ain't loyal to shyt unless they gettin paid....they gon roll wit who's hot and who can pay the most.....and none of his employees had the power to blackball him:laff:...now if he wuz treatin Jay like he wuz Just Blaze that wuz just dumb:whoa: as jay wuz a partner and the star.
 

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When I say happy, I don't mean :pachaha:, I mean they have a cool environment to work in. If you want your business to survive, without conning people to stay afloat, why would you say you would knock out your main producer or CONSTANTLY put them down?. If anything you make sure they are happy so they don't do things to fukk your shyt up, and move on. There is a time, way, and a place to do things.

Plus, there is a difference from someone working at a job, and being a music producer that is helping your company make millions. A regular worker can be replaced, unless they have extraordinary talent, but someone who helped get your company a solid foundation in the game, is not someone you talk slick to, you want them to keep giving you their best work so you can keep making money.
this^^^. dame was acting like he gave Just everything. not aknowledging just gave him the hot beats that made the ROC's sound. without that they would've been another decent east coast crew that fell off 10 years prior. it goes both ways, you pay me, and i make you hot beats. everyone is happy.

its not "yo little man, i did you a favor by bringing you on to the ROC" No you didnt. i worked for you. you earned millions off of my work. there were no favors done. there was a job opening and i applied for it. got the job and was great at it. Dame really thinks he makes everyone around him. there's a reason jigga said, go make another Jay.

dame swears he taught jay how to dress. he swears he taught just how to dress.
he swears he gave just an opportunity as if just didnt earn it. just wasnt some kid on the streets that Dame scooped up and then he found out later he could make beats. dame got just cause just was nice with the beats.
 
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