the d.o.c. reveals: i've lived with dr. dre for most of my life (vladtv)

[Art Barr]

Could he sing?
i always hear about his voice

Rappers were not singing back then.
You would have gotten the shyt beat outta you, back then.
trying to be on that rnb force md's ass bullshyt.
The reason why rap is on death's door as a gateway profit pillar as a business for hiphop.
Is rap, has leaned so much on rnb.
That Now with autotune to cover up a rapper being offkey.
It has ruined the quality and direction of what a real rap record is.



Art Barr

 

[Da King]

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Doc was light years better than tupac, my nikka.
If doc never got hurt.
The next title he could have vy'd for was goat.

He was that distinctly skilled as an all time great talent.
He had every tool and knew how to use them on an other worldly level.

Art Barr

DOC would have gone down as a top 3

His accident was the WOAT tragedy in hip hop

 

[Donald J Trump]

Rappers were not singing back then.
You would have gotten the shyt beat outta you, back then trying to be on that rnb force md's ass bullshyt.


Art Barr

so yall saying he was better than a young jigga?

 

[macadomusic]

Gotta salute Dre for looking out for D.O.C. because according to his interviews, he's awful at taking care of his paperwork. Dude probably got all kinda debt and liens and shyt

 

[soulfuljah]

Rappers were not singing back then.
You would have gotten the shyt beat outta you, back then.
trying to be on that rnb force md's ass bullshyt.



Art Barr

Or tossed of the stage PM Dawn style...

 

[Cat piss martini]

If, doc got to make that definitive girl song like mahogany and followed it up with know what's on ya mind type of record.
I could say, he could have potentially been more commercially viable than rakim.
Which was more the perception and being able to squeeze around the cowboy edict and get a positive rub from the ruthless afiliation.
Yet, I don't think doc had the capacity to go in the realm of depth.
that rakim went into outside of the hardest content to write and be exactly convincing is the girl record.
Especially for that time and sonic landscape.
I am not sure doc could have answered the jody Whatley I bet you can't write this type of record for with me exercise.
That rakim took the challenge and succeeded in doing back then.
The thing that makes ra the second best all time.
is his ability to make the most difficult content base records and not lose any layer of convincability.
or sacrifice any of his technical base or artistry.
I am not sure doc could have done that and continued to expertly do it the way Ra has.
in the small but large volume sample size of straight classic girl records back to back to back without fail that Ra has dropped.
Including the girl records masterfully written on the master and also seventh seal.
So, in that is where the question marks form in comparing him to Ra.
As doc would have if he went unharmed.
would have had to eventually make especially after mahogany to keep pace with the overall goat argument outside of krs.
Krs, who never has to make a girl record and won't be judged on that criteria.
which is what makes him the goat culturally overall.
In the case of the doc, rakim, Kane and LL.
those dudes physically feature wise are the actual visage of the black man in living color.
To the point even shante says that exactly about Kane on actual quotes over her career in print, and tv.
That they would be subjected to that criteria unfairly.
Especially after Ra took and ovelry excelled at the Whatley challenge.
While, krs would not be subject to that criteria culturally.
Which is why krs is the goat.
as that content is not required of krs, to make at all.
All because he ushered in the new school way of thought and put the rnb based content out to pasture.
That plagued the quality of rap moving forward in the ol school way of thought..being under attack by the likes of guys like the force md's.
Who were making rnb and trying to package it as rap.



Art Barr

let's not forget that D.O.C birthed tongue twisting
and the patented studder step.
Bone thug,twister etc are his children.
I dont think he needed a I need love or any of that.
Being on ruthless with Cube,Dre and Easy was enough.
their underground shyt outsold all of that crossover anyway.

 

[Art Barr]

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so yall saying he was better than a young jigga?

Easily,...

Jay was not in any distinction near doc as a talent at all.
Doc never used his contemporaries to ramp and also never souled't out as a contemporary yes man either like jay did with jaz.
Nor, is he lumped in as a collateral damage from the ruthless, or death row era because of the accident.
Jay has no real distinction as an emcee past self grandiose false narrative pr about his stature.
Jay is not in the goat convo and never was.
Jay was to late a start and lost to many battles, needed help in battles or covered up losses in battles before he got on.
Including getting served by nas as a contemporary and jaz as a mentor as well.
So, there is no way for jay to be given a nod as better than doc historically.
Jay never once showed what doc could do.
Nor did jay do it when the bpm's and sonic landscape.
were completely different for generations before he got on, either.
Doc was light years better than jay.
Doc was a technical marvel before the styles era and before the technical revolution.
With no loss of flows, convincability or skills or intangibles song to song.

While, jay had to basically ramp up via exact consulting help from big l, bad boy sessions, sauce and jaz.
Doc may have wrote with cube and ren.
Yet, doc never needed them to aid him.
in the doc's skill maturation process like jay had to do with his contemporaries.
Plus, jay lost technical skill, when not around those principals.
So, that means jay never had his own actual technical rubrick and is also a styles morph.
Or biter with excellent commercial jiggy sellout artist based MIC presence.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Or tossed of the stage PM Dawn style...

Yeah, they got set adrift,......


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

let's not forget that D.O.C birthed tongue twisting
and the patented studder step.
Bone thug,twister etc are his children.
I dont think he needed a I need love or any of that.
Being on ruthless with Cube,Dre and Easy was enough.
their underground shyt outsold all of that crossover anyway.

Yeah, I mentioned how the ruthless perception may have made it so. doc got around that like krs is not subject to that either.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

let's not forget that D.O.C birthed tongue twisting
and the patented studder step.
Bone thug,twister etc are his children.
I dont think he needed a I need love or any of that.
Being on ruthless with Cube,Dre and Easy was enough.
their underground shyt outsold all of that crossover anyway.

You mean the world wind pyramid flow.
Jaz and jay like to claim they did it first..yet, real talk originators never had no burn like that back then.
So, I can see what you mean.
shyt eminem's first single biter phobia and the bside is basically a doc meets a bone record.
So, I can see what you are saying as far as impact and showing go. on a large scale who really did it, so it has impact.

This was tung twista in 91, before the loud deal and Steve Rifkin and the Guinness book.
Dude got on the hoyas sweats and the a's hat.
He was getting all his props.



This flow is a bit wise intelligent but that could just be from his number of syllables per bar creating the same inflection and sounds wise made on prt at that time, tho.

Art Barr

 

[bigrodthe1]

Could he sing?
i always hear about his voice

so yall saying he was better than a young jigga?

I KNEW you were white

 

[Cat piss martini]

You mean the world wind pyramid flow.
Jaz and jay like to claim they did it first..yet, real talk originators never had no burn like that back then.
So, I can see what you mean.
shyt eminem's first single biter phobia and the bside is basically a doc meets a bone record.
So, I can see what you are saying as far as impact and showing go. on a large scale who really did it, so it has impact.

This was tung twista in 91, before the loud deal and Steve Rifkin and the Guinness book.
Dude got on the hoyas sweats and the a's hat.
He was getting all his props.



This flow is a bit wise intelligent but that could just be from his number of syllables per bar creating the same inflection and sounds wise made on prt at that time, tho.

Art Barr

The D.O.C birthed all of them flows.
even Mc Ren's flow stepped up after
studiying the DOC.
That album was Perfect...

 

[Shade]

That was a good interview though. Kinda sucks the luck he had from the accident to him not getting what he feels he deserves from Dre. No One Can Do It Better is one of my favorite albums. I remember Snoop said one time if he didn't get in the accident he would've been the 2nd dopest rapper based in LA after Pac.

He's actually from Dallas.

 

[Donald J Trump]

I KNEW you were white

im not 45 with a mortgage like u

 

[bigrodthe1]

im not 45 with a mortgage like u

You can't put a mortgage on grandma's basement