The Downfall of HipHop began when...

[Threnody]

1996.....there was a shift in 1991/1992 and hip-hop was in bad shape but after 96 it was a wrap...yeah classics were dropped after that but the culture was advancing too much so it had to be stomped out, shot up, sold off in pieces and assimilated.

 

[Rakim Allah]

I blame Puff. I think the shiny suit era was the first sign of the downfall.

Nah signs were put up before that...that era WAS the downfall.

 

[Rakim Allah]

When Run DMC collabbed with Aerosmith it was the first nail. Nobody knew it yet. The seed had been planted.

It was planted with the Sugar Hill Gang.

It started to grow with Walk This Way.

 

[be back in a bit]

When the South started taking over

First post nails it. Hip Hop started to suck in 2005. Houston takeover lol. I remember my friends were starting to listen to Mike Jokes, Paul Wall, Slim Thug and shyt. I was just like, this is wack breh. Took em and a lot of people like 2 years to realize that.

 

[aboss4real24]

When everything went south

 

[Rakim Allah]

Music is better when it has substance. Even a catchy simple pop song. If it's got substance and hits #1. High probability it will be a classic. Artists in hip hop don't care bout that though. Neither do its gatekeepers. So really hip hop was great and all at a certain point. But it failing because the dudes in power. Shouldn't be. O well. Hip hop don't care about substance. So why care about hip hop? With the current atmosphere. You better off being a pop star. Hotter girls. More money. Longer legacy.

You mean Industry Pop Rap doesn't care about substance. Trying to be pop stars, is one reason why those rappers have no substance and are flash in the pans.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

combination of shyt but the ringtone era was the killer blow. still aint recovered form how the south dumbed down hiphop in those years.

 

[Bickin Back Being Bool]

idiots saying kanye west

 

[DANJ!]

All this thread proves is that there is no answer. Because depending on age and personal taste, everyone will always have different theories on "when" hip-hop's "downfall" started. It's really a personal thing. There will never be a REAL "moment" that began the so-called downfall. It's all about when YOU, personally, stopped being as big a fan/listener as you used to be. For me, it was 2005 with Laffy Taffy, but people have been talkin' this shyt since the 90s, and probably before that. I knew people in the late-90s who swore shyt ain't been the same since PE and Rakim were on top. shyt never stops. There's a kid somewhere right now who loves this shyt right now and won't feel the same in 2024, and will probably not give a solitary shyt about it by 2034. And it'll have nothin' to do with how good/bad the music is by then. It'll be cause it's not the music he grew up lovin'.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

 

[iliketurtles]

When Nas started rapping he birthed homos like young faq.

 

[iliketurtles]

at there not being an Eminem option.

He broadened the audience and made it more popular u dumb af.

 

[iliketurtles]

The 90's is over and never coming back.

Ol stuck in the past ass nikkaz dusty fags need to stay in there basement and never leave the 90s

 

[Cynic]

No, but they both played a role in the demise of hiphop to a degree imo

Walk this way was the 1st blatant sellout rap song, and opened doors for more sellouts in the future

and vanilla ice showed us who could (and eventually would) really dominate our culture in terms of success

This was inevitable... Hiphop isn't a bubble breh .... You can't be 15% of the population and not expect the other 70% to support their own.... ( I left out the other 15 for Hispanics in case any of Colin smart dumb n!ggas try it)

 

[wild100sboy]

Hip Hop died when anyone with an internet connection was able to download a production program, buy a mic and become a "rapper".