The El Chapo Trial is nuts; $100m Bribe to NIETO?! UPDATE: FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

[Cave Savage]

This is right...

Colombian drug kinpings dont want to be sent to an american prison, so they rather take a cut from the profit and leave the hardest part to the mexicans, which is bringing the yayo into the US.

As the Medellin, Cali and Norte del Valle cartels fell in Colombia in the 90s and 00s, the drug trade fell into the hands of the marxist guerrillas FARC and ELN and paramilitary groups called AUC, which had already been dealing with drugs sicne the 80s, but this time they would be running the show. AUC and FARC signed peace treaties with the Colombian Government a year ago, settling a 60 year long internal conflict. But many high middle ranking guerrilla officers declined to be included in the peace process and formed their own armies to remain in the drug business.

Now mexican cartels are increasing their presence in Colombia and are building transnational drug operating organizations with the Colombians. This means Colombian drug runners send people to Mexico to launder money and set up shop, and the mexican cartels send people to Colombia to make sure the supply is always there.

What is happening in Mexico right now is what happened in Colombia in the 80s-90s. El Chapo is their Escobar.

But these guys are not the problem, neither are the cokeheads in the US and Europe who keep demand high. The problem is that the war against drugs failed and drugs should be legalized, so the production and consumption are regulated.

Peace!

I wonder how much legalizing drugs would solve the violence problem. Would the cartels in Mexico chill out or just devolve to some reckless MS-13 type shyt?

 

[Canon]

these dudes was making planes

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Well, yeah, but read the indictment the SD US Attorneys Office charged her with.....It's conspiracy to distribute 5 kilos or more, and that can get you 40 years. She's still torn up over the affair, she was crying on the stand.

And, after her arrest she was charged directly by the Department of Justice in DC, they would have burned her to the ground, if she didn't talk. She probably had to plead to get them to consider her testimony.

that hoe just ain't built for the game

she knew what she signed up for....

dumbazz seemed more tormented about having her "heartbroken" than the fact that she could spend the next 40 years in prison

i see why Chapo's wife was laughing at her azz...

 

[re'up]

Since she cooperated, she will be out in 8 years or less, and has moved her family to the US. In the end, she made the right call. Chapo is going to prison, his sons are going to get arrested, and Emma will be a narco wife, aging everyday.

 

[razassin]

I wonder how much legalizing drugs would solve the violence problem. Would the cartels in Mexico chill out or just devolve to some reckless MS-13 type shyt?

They will turn to a different industry. The illegal armed groups in Colombia turned to illeal mining since it was much more profitable than cocaine. Once you set up an organization as big as Mexicos cartels or Colombian illegal armed groups and so many people and their families profit from the business its very hard to dissolve it. Plus there is also a war economy with interests from the US and Europe (who make the weapons and sell them to these groups) to continue these conflicts.

Its much more complex than just legalizing drugs, and its much wider than cartels and colombian illegal armed groups. All the powerful arms industry players whos employees and their families live off conflict also benefit from this scenerio.

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

When he says synthetic cocaine, he means cocaine not made by the traditional methods of "Jungle" refinement, paste to power treatment, but lab produced cocaine, medical grade cocaine, which is available in US hospitals, or was at some point. The advantage being you can produce in house, in Mexico, and not risk on the transport, but I doubt that method can compete with production needs.

I know someone from a 3rd world crime family whose ppl sent him to america just to get a chemistry degree and join the family business making liquid cocaine. The main advantage isnt production in house. When cocaine is made in a laboratory its in a liquid form that doesnt have any scent and is easy to mask as an industrial chemical for shipping international. Its a very expensive method because you have to have a lab on both ends - one to make the liquid, another at the drop off to convert the liquid to powder

 

[Splash]

I been watchin El Chapo on Netflix and real life seems more sensational that the series

Imagine delivering a $100m bribe I'm taking at least 2M... you aint finna count that shyt anyway

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

What a thread

 

[PikaDaDon]

I'm probably the only person bothered by the fact that a Mexican drug cartel is being tried in New York, USA. The US is operating as the global police prosecuting foreign criminals. This all should be handled by Mexican authorities. Breh probably never even set foot on US soil.

 

[King Frost]

I'm probably the only person bothered by the fact that a Mexican drug cartel is being tried in New York, USA. The US is operating as the global police prosecuting foreign criminals. This all should be handled by Mexican authorities. Breh probably never even set foot on US soil.

for mexicns?

the coke is coming to the US
and the mexican president got a 100m
mexico aint doing sht about el chapo

 

[PikaDaDon]

the coke is coming to the US

Then arrest the folks on the US side distributing his product. Odd that you have no qualms with the US prosecuting folks beyond its borders.

 

[eastsideTT]

I'm probably the only person bothered by the fact that a Mexican drug cartel is being tried in New York, USA. The US is operating as the global police prosecuting foreign criminals. This all should be handled by Mexican authorities. Breh probably never even set foot on US soil.

I agree with you low key, but it was handled by Mexican authorities...like 3 different times. The guy paid his way out of jail up until they had to save face and couldn't keep their system from looking so outwardly corrupt

I think you're right though, I highly doubt he's touched down in the US any time in the last 30 years at least . His wife definitely did; she came here to give birth to her kids

 

[Cave Savage]

I'm probably the only person bothered by the fact that a Mexican drug cartel is being tried in New York, USA. The US is operating as the global police prosecuting foreign criminals. This all should be handled by Mexican authorities. Breh probably never even set foot on US soil.

Well, the Mexican government agreed to extradite him, plus the Mexican justice system is pretty much useless. If it were some low level crime I would agree, but we're talking about a person responsible for thousands of murders

 

[re'up]

I know someone from a 3rd world crime family whose ppl sent him to america just to get a chemistry degree and join the family business making liquid cocaine. The main advantage isnt production in house. When cocaine is made in a laboratory its in a liquid form that doesnt have any scent and is easy to mask as an industrial chemical for shipping international. Its a very expensive method because you have to have a lab on both ends - one to make the liquid, another at the drop off to convert the liquid to powder

Not saying you are wrong, but cocaine doesn't have to "synthetic" to be processed into liquid, regular cocaine hyrdochloride can be made into liquid, for smuggling. For reasons you mentioned, it isn't all that popular, it is a lot of effort and resources, complicating distribution, no one really wants to buy it liquid, and re convert. What Damaso's testimony is referring to is cocaine made in Mexico, not paste based method used in South America.

 

[re'up]

What a bizarre argument, he's being prosecuted here because of the crimes committed here, and crimes against the US drug laws, like conspiracy to import a controlled substance, and conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance. It doesn't matter if you are in TJ, or Fiji, if you conspire to import illicit substances into the US international borders, that is a violation of federal drug laws. Likewise, if you conspire to transport money illegally out of the US, that is violation. If you run money through US based financial institutions, you are also in violation. It isn't overreach by the US.