The Fermi Paradox: Reasons why we havent been visited by Aliens

[Devilinurear]

Breh there is footage of a ufo creating a crop circle....


And it is already proven by way of the crops and magnetic fields of those crops that humans didn't create some of them.

Come on breh civilizations has been traded for centuries before European and they didn't invade and destroy. Your logic is so limited to the grand scale of things. Government has ton of reasons to hide Ufos and one is the energy source or technology that it uses which can change civilization as we know it. fukk gas and all the other bullshyt. Free energy and magnetic field propulsion

Again I only brought up the European when they first landed not there aftermath. Again I can't take crop circles seriously think about it we as humans communicate by talking and writing. When have we ever communicate through crop circles? It makes no sense.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

How do you know they haven't made contact??? Our governments is the first line of contact from outer space and aint no living being in this universe will openly just land in a populated area like what up hoes.... Just not logical lol.

You honestly believe we didn't receive signals from outer space yet or seen some shyt... Remember NASA is a military agency first and their first line of defense is to protext human interest. We are not ready to meet our universe relatives yet. We are probably the youngest species developed so far as you can tell by our animalistic nature.



really breh

Really and truly.

The entire prospect of aliens from other planets is based on the overwhelming logic that says there should be aliens.

Remove the logical argument that they MUST exist and whatta ya got?

Not shyt

 

[Leasy]

Really and truly.

The entire prospect of aliens from other planets is based on the overwhelming logic that says there should be aliens.

Remove the logical argument that they MUST exist and whatta ya got?

Not shyt

My logic is based on our creatures developing here on earth and how they are trillion stars in our galaxy alone. I don't understand how you can simply with a straight face say there isn't life out there.

I'm not I'm thinking pure logic.

If life evolves naturally it has to be organic in it's initial state. It takes an intelligence to build a non organic life form.

If you have evolved to where you can do interstellar travel you've probably evolved enough to understand the risks of sending organic lifeforms through interstellar space.

There would be no logical reason in THIS universe to not use a surrogate or transfer your consciousness into a non organic vehicle for such travel.

I agree we apply human principals to supposed alien logic too much, but this is logic based off the laws of the universe itself (admittedly as far as we understand it)

There is pretty much 0 benefit to sending you're own organic body on such a venture if you have sufficient technology to get around that.

Now maybe there's alien life that can survive in space like these little Water Bears from earth that are just like fukk it I mean imagine in a 30 million years these guys are the dominant species

They froze these things for 30 years thawed em out and they woke up. They found some dried up on 100 year old moss hydrated them and they came back to life

They also put them in the vacuum of space for 10 days no food and water and they survived the pressure and radiation

But the fact remains organic tissue is a more risky thing to send through interstellar space as opposed to a surrogate/probe.

Ok but who is to say that there isn't other forms of species out there? NASA scientist alreday found bacteria living off arsenic on our earth and sulfur. Who is to say that million of years later they can't develop into something larger etc..

Our planet has shielded us from extreme conditions as it should but I guarantee if it was different we would of developed different

 

[Ghost Utmost]

My logic is based on our creatures developing here on earth and how they are trillion stars in our galaxy alone. I don't understand how you can simply with a straight face say there isn't life out there.



Ok but who is to say that there isn't other forms of species out there? NASA scientist alreday found bacteria living off arsenic on our earth and sulfur. Who is to say that million of years later they can't develop into something larger etc..

Our planet has shielded us from extreme conditions as it should but I guarantee if it was different we would of developed different

You are using your IMAGINATION to deduce the existence of creatures.

I use my eyes and ears to deduce such things.

If we are writing a movie then this is a great excersize. If we are talking Science then we have to stick with

What

Can

Be

Measured

I like to think we are the first ones and this is the only scenario that is supported by the

EVIDENCE

I will admit that it makes alot of sense that other Earth-like planets half a galaxy away would have life forms that develop in a similar trajectory to us.

But they haven't come here. They haven't sent any message that we can detect.

So it's still the same thing. No creatures from other planets travel to Earth. It's too far.

But life in the universe has to start somewhere. Even if it wasn't Earth, there was a first life form somewhere.

So I say: why not us? And more importantly, the evidence seems to suggest this.

 

[KushSkywalker]

My logic is based on our creatures developing here on earth and how they are trillion stars in our galaxy alone. I don't understand how you can simply with a straight face say there isn't life out there.



Ok but who is to say that there isn't other forms of species out there? NASA scientist alreday found bacteria living off arsenic on our earth and sulfur. Who is to say that million of years later they can't develop into something larger etc..

Our planet has shielded us from extreme conditions as it should but I guarantee if it was different we would of developed different

Hence why I mention the water bears.

There's always the possibility of life that say thrives on radiation, or is made of ammonia etc. Or even just shyt we can't fathom (4th dimensional beings interacting with 3 dimensions for instance)

All I'm saying is generally speaking if your organic and smart enough to check something out really far away some sort of probe or placeholder. Sure there are reasons this would not be the case (home world destroyed going to new world, organic stasis, cellular replication, etc.)

I'm not the only person who thinks that would be a high probability either.

 

[levitate]

So I say: why not us? And more importantly, the evidence seems to suggest this.

Ehh...at some point statistics simply has to come into play.

The primary components of life as we know it are quite common throughout the universe. There is nothing particularly special about our galaxy, our solar system, our planet... They are ordinary, not extraordinary.

You say why not us, I say why us? I understand that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial life...but that's akin to dipping a teaspoon into the ocean, pulling it out and saying "see, there is no evidence of fish in these waters!" Uhh yeah...you may wanna explore the ocean a bit more before making such a proclamation.

 

[levitate]

And why do we continue to place human traits on potential extraterrestrial intelligent life?



Maybe they simply don't give a fukk about exploration, "reaching out", and fukking up other civilizations.

 

[FromBillionsCameOne]

There was a first Oxygen atom.

There was a first DNA strand.

Earth could be the first planet in the entire Universe with life on it. And judging by the evidence.. its the only statement that can be made simply based on actual observations.

So I tend toward that idea. If there are some humanoid muff huggers that aren't our same species that are millions of years older than us.. they are also from Earth. Just came before us. Live in space for some reason.

I still kiiinnndaaaaaa have a little door open in my heart for beings from other planets coming to vist. But it's too fukcing far. If they they were here it'd be like their star exploded and this is some planetoid liferaft with their whole population on it. Or whatever. But they'd have come to stay. Prolly take em generations xxxx to reach another star.

Fukc warp speed. And worm holes. Matter cannot travel most of the speed of light nevermind faster than. A wormhole is what you think a black hole might be. Like a doorway. A black hole is a super massive spherical object that your ass just becomes part of if you get to close. No doorway. Just torn into a steam of subatomic particles and fused to an object of ultimate density.

Wormholes are totally different from black holes

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Wormholes are totally different from black holes

Yes.

One is an observable object.

The other is an imaginary construct based on lots of assumptions about said observable object (see above).

Guess which is which

 

[FromBillionsCameOne]

Yes.

One is an observable object.

The other is an imaginary construct based on lots of assumptions about said observable object (see above).

Guess which is which

Yeah and neither of them are alike to the other like you claimed

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Yeah and neither of them are alike to the other like you claimed

The wormhole is imaginary

 

[mc_brew]

i still think trumpism is the great filter....

 

[Lord-Yosh]

i still think trumpism is the great filter....

 

[Althalucian]

We way too dumb. Like watching ants at work.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Aint no aliens. We the aliens.