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Forza is a racing sim. It does not try to replicate any official race. You are not going to race a Bugatti SS at 230 mph in the rain. It does not race in any officially sanctioned racing series. This game is about racing at famous tracks around the world like Mazda speedway etc. So no I dont have a desire to race in the rain etc. If you cant or wont understand that it's your problem not mine. Enjoy your Drive Club and be happy.
:heh: You've been lording your moderate knowledge over sony brehs who are CLEARLY trolling you with Drive Club so long you have no other gear.

What the fukk did I say about Drive Club? I don't play shyt like that and Forza Horizon. The fact that you're even allowing them to make a debate out of one of Xbox's premiere titles and a throwaway launch piece is hilarious. You're debating Forza versus Drive Club. DRIVE CLUB.

You lost breh.

Everything I said is 100% valid and you have absolutely no argument for any of it, not to

You are not going to race a Bugatti SS at 230 mph in the rain. It does not race in any officially sanctioned racing series. This game is about racing at famous tracks around the world like Mazda speedway etc

What a dumb comment. The Bugatti isn't in any official racing series. Which, according to your logic, means you SHOULD'T be able to race it at these world famous racing tracks, given that you know, it doesn't happen. But you can do it in Forza anyway.

Explain.
 

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So we're pretending that just about every motorsport series in the world bar the ones that run on ovals don't race in the rain? It takes OUTRAGEOUSLY poor conditions for a road-race to be red-flagged for weather. Some of the greatest races of all time have gone down in the wet. It's a challenge, and weather changes is something that every sim-racer clamors for any time a sim gets released. Why? Weather changes are a part of racing.

Do you think Codemasters could really up and do the F1 games without rain? It'd be a flatly inaccurate portrayal of the world they're claiming to represent. Why should Turn 10 get a pass for this?

And endurance racing has been a cornerstone of the motorsport world for a century. The fact that Forza has Le Mans but doesn't have weather or day/night cycle is every bit as egregious as it was when Polyphony did the same shyt with Gran Turismo 4. shyt, Forza has La Sarthe, the Nurb, AND Sebring. The location of the three greatest endurance races in the world but have not done what it takes to properly recreate what makes those races the classics they are. You really think this game loses nothing by being unable to blast down the Mulsanne in the pitch darkas the sky begins to open? It's moments like that that define endurance racing, and it's completely excluded.

If this was a stripped out super-sim in the vein of iRacing or the GOAT Grand Prix Legends, you could excuse this. You could say they focused so much on hardcore physics they didn't have room or resources for fluff. But that isn't the case, at all. This game is going to feature tons of stylistic and presentation flourishes, but they skimped on the full experience.

Not to mention, they are completely excluding rally racing. Again. Rallying goes through all weather, all times of day, and has for as long as nikkas could drive in a forest. And Forza just casually ignores yet another cornerstone of racing.

They're FINALLY including open-wheel cars, so good on them. But again, most of the great open-wheel races (especially in the last fifteen years) have taken place in the rain.

They're coming half-correctly.


nikka why the hell are so so furious? Over racing in the rain? :wtf: Despite all the other fantastic developments you only care to focus on no fukking rain being offered in a launch title for a next Gen system.

some nikkas are special...
 

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:heh: You've been lording your moderate knowledge over sony brehs who are CLEARLY trolling you with Drive Club so long you have no other gear.

What the fukk did I say about Drive Club? I don't play shyt like that and Forza Horizon. The fact that you're even allowing them to make a debate out of one of Xbox's premiere titles and a throwaway launch piece is hilarious. You're debating Forza versus Drive Club. DRIVE CLUB.

You lost breh.

Everything I said is 100% valid and you have absolutely no argument for any of it, not to



What a dumb comment. The Bugatti isn't in any official racing series. Which, according to your logic, means you SHOULD'T be able to race it at these world famous racing tracks, given that you know, it doesn't happen. But you can do it in Forza anyway.

Explain.
:mindblown: There such is thing as amature racing? You think tracks are only used for big events like le mans? Their a lot of people who take the Ford Focas ST and race them on the weekends. The stans dont have me twisted up at all. Forza series are rated higher than the gt series even with the "disadvantage" of not having nascar,rain or rally racing.
 

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:mindblown: There such is thing as amature racing? You think tracks are only used for big events like le mans? Their a lot of people who take the Ford Focas ST and race them on the weekends. The stans dont have me twisted up at all. Forza series are rated higher than the gt series even with the "disadvantage" of not having nascar,rain or rally racing.
So the fukk was your point of saying the Bugatti didn't race in officially sanctioned races in the first place? :heh:

Duh there are track days.

Or do you think they're all called off once it starts to drizzle?
 

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So the fukk was your point of saying the Bugatti didn't race in officially sanctioned races in the first place? :heh:
Based off your long ass rant thread. If this game was called Forza Rally or Forza Le mans you would have a point. Rich people do race their cars go watch youtube seen plenty of exotics race on tracks. And for the everyday man they race their cars too. That is what Forza is about.
 

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Based off your long ass rant thread. If this game was called Forza Rally or Forza Le mans you would have a point. Rich people do race their cars go watch youtube seen plenty of exotics race on tracks. And for the everyday man they race their cars too. That is what Forza is about.
Well, seeing as how Forza signed an agreement with ALMS (y'know, American Le Mans series), which is why they included Road Atlanta and Sebring (homes of the two most famous American endurdance races, y'know, at night, and through changing weather conditions) I quite clearly have a point. They're coming half-correctly.
 

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@Don Rhymus, you have to understand @Smooth3d doesn't know what he's talking about in regards to road racing, dude thinks people will cancel a track day cause it's raining :russ:

Forza doesn't have rain, therefore nobody actually races in the rain, you ain't know?
@Malta You dont have room to say anything, you are always proven wrong. And who said their was no night or racing in the rain with some racing sports. But the type of game Forza is, night or racing in the rain is not a mandatory feature.
 

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@Malta You dont have room to say anything, you are always proven wrong. And who said their was no night or racing in the rain with some racing sports. But the type of game Forza is, night or racing in the rain is not a mandatory feature.
So it means nothing that they signed a deal with the organization that does the Petit Le Mans and the 12 Hours of Sebring, included both tracks where events said place, but didn't bother to recreate them in any way, shape, form, or level?
 

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So it means nothing that they signed a deal with the organization that does the Petit Le Mans and the 12 Hours of Sebring, included both tracks where events said place, but didn't bother to recreate them in any way, shape, form, or level?
Have you ever played Forza? There no event to recreate the 12 hours Sebring. Just because it has the tracks does not mean it's trying to do the event. Its giving the option to race on tracks that regular joe's wouldn't have the opportunity to do it in real life. It's sad when the only gripe you have with the game is its lack of rain or a rally mode :smh:
 

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@Malta You dont have room to say anything, you are always proven wrong. And who said their was no night or racing in the rain with some racing sports. But the type of game Forza is, night or racing in the rain is not a mandatory feature.

Proven wrong, about what nikka :wtf: What delusional world are you living in, you the same dude with shytty math :smugbiden:

You're out of your element here talking about racing in general -
No not really, We are not talking Nascar or 24hr of le mans. So no most don't drive at 150+ mph at night, rain or snow. Good try tho :stopitslime:

This type of shyt is hilarious, you're so hard pressed to defend everything Xbox related you come off like a moron. Your reply here is in regards to @DexterMorgan saying sarcastically that nobody races at night, you already showed that you have no fukking clue what you're talking about yet you're still trying. You're probably furiously googling shyt on racing right now, because you have no first hand knowledge of it. There are plenty of tracks around the country with track days specifically at night.

Have you ever been to a track day? no, so why are you talking about what "most" do or don't do at tracks?
 

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Proven wrong, about what nikka :wtf: What delusional world are you living in, you the same dude with shytty math :smugbiden:

You're out of your element here talking about racing in general -


This type of shyt is hilarious, you're so hard pressed to defend everything Xbox related you come off like a moron. Your reply here is in regards to @DexterMorgan saying sarcastically that nobody races at night, you already showed that you have no fukking clue what you're talking about yet you're still trying. You're probably furiously googling shyt on racing right now, because you have no first hand knowledge of it. There are plenty of tracks around the country with track days specifically at night.

Have you ever been to a track day? no, so why are you talking about what "most" do or don't do at tracks?
Just shut fukk up I dont have to google anything. I know exactly what Im talking about. You stans trying to spin a good game because it does not have rain or night racing. LOL Yes I been to some in Texas.
 

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Have you ever played Forza? There no event to recreate the 12 hours Sebring. Just because it has the tracks does not mean it's trying to do the event. Its giving the option to race on tracks that regular joe's wouldn't have the opportunity to do it in real life. It's sad when the only gripe you have with the game is its lack rain or a rally mode :smh:
Not "rain", it lacks endurance racing in general, and endurance racing is kind of big. An easy way to understand this is Forza paying money to have tracks that are famous...because they host endurance races. Changing weather conditions are a factor in all racing, especially in endurance racing. They don't just have the tracks, they also have the licensing agreement with the organization responsible for these races. Why did they sign ALMS?
You said if the game was called Forza Le Mans I'd have a point.

Well they call themselves the "official racing partner of the American Le Mans Series" and then fail to implement their partners most important events. So do I not have a point anymore because you didn't know they had done that when you made your statemet?
 

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Not "rain", it lacks endurance racing in general, and endurance racing is kind of big. An easy way to understand this is Forza paying money to have tracks that are famous...because they host endurance races. Changing weather conditions are a factor in all racing, especially in endurance racing. They don't just have the tracks, they also have the licensing agreement with the organization responsible for these races. Why did they sign ALMS? Why are they the "official racing partner of the American Le Mans Series" and then fail to implement their partners most important events?

Because maybe Forza is not about endurance racing? If thats what you want Forza is not for you. And once again most people want to race the track, not race for 12 or 24 hrs or even a condensed version of it.
 
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