The genesis of the EAST vs WEST beef finally revealed : The story of how Bad Boy killed Suge's man Big Jake finally told by the owner of the club.

[spliz]

Oh so Suge was an angel?

Nope.

 

[kingofnyc]

Man stfu. As we would later find out, anybody can be touched.

Also there’s a reason any time a celeb is in something physical, very often it’s at the hands of another celeb (ie diddy vs drake and j cole): bc access is the only thing separating a celeb. So if someone has access to a celeb—-Suge had access to puff—-that completely removes the whole ‘Suge would never put hands on Puff’ angle.

You’re talking like it’s backstage at a show and/or they were opps. Nah. This is close quarters, 2 men who are quasi friends. In that scenario, your bodyguard ain’t gonna be in your hip pocket ngga. Also gotta remember Suge and puff’s animosity wasnt deadly yet so what they go do kill Suge Knight for yoking him up? Nah

Instead, the story they told DOES solidify that Wolf was cold. Wolf intervened and they shot the fair one. He held his own. That don’t mean the ngga is Batman. This story also matches what Mob James said years ago ‘Suge would try to bully Puff but puff had killers too he wasn’t goin for that’. Here they said Puff was like ‘I ain’t gon be your bytch’ and they shoot the fade. So all these accounts add up. Puff wasn’t no bytch, wolf held him down, but Suge was still 6’5 300lbs

the fact u started off with “stfu” …. pretty much proves my point

i understand u may not be of age : resided in nyc at the time ~ but u have no idea about Wolf … he wasn’t puff body guard he was his street muscle/goon/killer … as a matter of fact, the nikka who was hired to rob pac Dexter Isaac had planned to set up and rob puff but was informed by his peoples that puff was affiliated with Wolf , so he called Wolf to let him know what he was going to do and Wolf said puff off limits don’t touch him …. And that dude Dexter is in jail for the rest of his life for murdering 13 to 15 innocent people
((that alone should tell you how respected he was in the streets))

so, again u would be delusional if u think suge or anybody for that matter would put hands on puff in front if Wolf
BTW suge is 6’2” wolf was 6’4”

 

[kingofnyc]

So are we gonna dispute nikkas that was there and gave detail about JD and Puff both getting slapped up

Nikkas lying about the jamaican nikka that said he don't even watch tv and know he none of these nikkas are

Nikkas lying about Puff & Suge holding hands in a prayer circle after Jake got hit up

If this is all a lie, this is the greatest cap in the history of Deathrow vs Bad Boy lore

to be honest, I don’t know what the hell to tell you
the fact is the dude on the right name is Mark Curry who wrote a book about 15 years ago and in his book he talks about the incident from frame to frame. detail to detail & It’s completely different from what was said in the video

 

[CHICAGO]

and let me say this for the record
and I know this is not gonna sit well with most of you, because most of y’all are bias with particularly ones group, but the truth is the truth


If you, nikkaz think that Suge would dare to put hands on Puff in front of Wolf ~ then you would be fukking retarded
with that said, if both was alone, and you want to believe that story, I’ll just say …… whatever

But in front of Wolf ~ that nikka was a cold blooded mutherfukker RIP

5:30 MARK...
APPARENTLY SUGE AND WOLF WERE COOL.



HE ALSO SAYS EARLIER
IN THE CLIP...
SUGE WAS IN SOME CLUB IN NYC
DRINKING WITH WOLF AFTER
JAKE WAS KILLED.

WE DONT KNOW THE INS
AND OUTS OF ANY OF THESE DUDES
RELATIONSHIPS.




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[Aje]

Does anyone know why Suge felt Puff owed him Jodi's and Mary's pub?

 

[spliz]

5:30 MARK...
APPARENTLY SUGE AND WOLF WERE COOL.



HE ALSO SAYS EARLIER
IN THE CLIP...
SUGE WAS IN SOME CLUB IN NYC
DRINKING WITH WOLF AFTER
JAKE WAS KILLED.

WE DONT KNOW THE INS
AND OUTS OF ANY OF THESE DUDES
RELATIONSHIPS.




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nikkas so hardbody in Bad Boy dikk nikkas refuse to see the forest from the trees. It’s either “he wouldn’t touch THIS person or THAT person..” but if they find out they did. Well. This is what happens when u deal wit real nikkas. He SHOULDN'T have touched this person or that person.

 

[CHICAGO]

Does anyone know why Suge felt Puff owed him Jodi's and Mary's pub?

NOT OWED HIM...
OWED THEM.

SUGE WAS THEIR MANAGER
AND HE WAS GETTING THEIR
PUB BACK FOR THEM.

HE AND PUFFY WERE FRIENDS
BUT FROM THE WAY THEY MAKE IT
SOUND, PUFF WAS GIVING HIM THE
RUN AROUND ON THIS AND SUGE GOT FED UP







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[spliz]

Nah this is a case of Suge being out of his element.

A real street nikka doesnt just walk up in a party and start shaking nikkas down, thats some goofy music industry shyt. nikkas have more self awareness of their enviroment


Suge and his mans got hit because they thought it was just some music industry shyt and that real nikkas was not in attendance.


Suge could of got clipped of what he did to JD alone. What kinda of idiot goes to a city and smacks up their cities most promiment artist and celebrity at the time.


He's lucky JD aint on Puff time cause if he moved like Diddy Suge would of gotten popped that night too. Smacking nikkas for no reason just on some bully shyt is how nikkas get blasted in the hood all the time. That is literally what happened here. Suge's mans went for the shortest guy thinking it was gonna be a sweet not knowing that he just sealed his fate with the goofy shyt.

I seen street nikkas do stupid shyt all the time. U act like street nikkas is all smart and calculated. Majority street nikkas are emotional and reactionary as fukk. Street nikkas die, and go to jail everyday behind this shyt.

 

[Tupac in a Business Suit]

Gene Deal has an interview that has the same details as the latest one posted today, but mentioned that it was over a girl named Nicole from Cali. She was fukking with Wolf and his people and Suge asked her why was she sucking NY dikk fukking with them NY dudes and that’s how it spilled into Jake getting killed. He mentioned the Jamaican dude going off on Jake saying be don’t watch TV and he not a fan and named the dude Jason as the shooter as well.

This is the story I know to be the truth about that incident in Atlanta.

 

[Skooby]

Haven't watched the video or read this thread but east and west were having issues before bad boy and death row had conflict.

See Quiks verse at 1:26:

This was released in 92.

 

[mson]

Reggie Wright says the "slap" most likely didn't happen.

 

[kingofnyc]

5:30 MARK...
APPARENTLY SUGE AND WOLF WERE COOL.



HE ALSO SAYS EARLIER
IN THE CLIP...
SUGE WAS IN SOME CLUB IN NYC
DRINKING WITH WOLF AFTER
JAKE WAS KILLED.

WE DONT KNOW THE INS
AND OUTS OF ANY OF THESE DUDES
RELATIONSHIPS.




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i can believe this story from Gene
and actually, it puts major holes into the OP’s video of all of this fighting between puff & suge at jahmaine birthday bash

 

[Ku$h Parker]

You'll see the two main dudes prosper, while everybody else around them dies and goes to jail.

But it usually starts out from a friendship or respect from both getting money in the same career field.
Then in turns into friendly competition.
And goes from there.
With black people from the hood it can always turn violent and deadly tho

Its crazy that CMR & No Limits Beef didnt reach that Level and im sure it was a Small World in N.O

 

[Braman]

the fact u started off with “stfu” …. pretty much proves my point

i understand u may not be of age : resided in nyc at the time ~ but u have no idea about Wolf … he wasn’t puff body guard he was his street muscle/goon/killer … as a matter of fact, the nikka who was hired to rob pac Dexter Isaac had planned to set up and rob puff but was informed by his peoples that puff was affiliated with Wolf , so he called Wolf to let him know what he was going to do and Wolf said puff off limits don’t touch him …. And that dude Dexter is in jail for the rest of his life for murdering 13 to 15 innocent people
((that alone should tell you how respected he was in the streets))

so, again u would be delusional if u think suge or anybody for that matter would put hands on puff in front if Wolf
BTW suge is 6’2” wolf was 6’4”

My man, I know ALL about Wolf.

And again, Suge doin this to Puff is not an indictment of Wolf. He’s still every bit of tough guy. But….as we say in hoops, them other nggas get paid too.

The same way east coast nggas talk about Wolf is exactly how west coast nggas talk about Big Jake, and Buntry, and Neckbone, and Herron, etc etc.

Like what are you even talking about. He a street ngga not a super hero. Wolf wasn’t dumb he knew who he could violate indiscriminately….and who he couldn’t. Suge was someone he couldn’t

 

[Braman]

Gene Deal has an interview that has the same details as the latest one posted today, but mentioned that it was over a girl named Nicole from Cali. She was fukking with Wolf and his people and Suge asked her why was she sucking NY dikk fukking with them NY dudes and that’s how it spilled into Jake getting killed. He mentioned the Jamaican dude going off on Jake saying be don’t watch TV and he not a fan and named the dude Jason as the shooter as well.

Yep. As if Nggas needed verification —-which I hate——but there it is. Bc that’s way too randomly specific to be ‘made up’. And Gene got that directly from Wolf and it’s wild to think he’d lie on his dead mans for no reason

Reggie Wright says the "slap" most likely didn't happen.

You have three firsthand accounts and you’d rather listen to an opinion?

Social media has broken you new nggas. Yall got trust issues