The Great Dr Boyce Watkins goes IN on Future and c00n rappers

[PhonZhi]

I feel it's a very powerful tool. White supremacy has been using tactics to destroy African and African American communities ever since they laid eyes upon us. It's no surprise that they are still using tactics to control the minds of the masses. They do it because they can and know they can get away with it. Nobody is going to do something if they know there would be negative consequences.

To me the only way to combat propaganda is to strengthen the family unit. Home should be a safe haven. Home should be a getaway from corruption of the outside world. If that isn't stable then it will be much more difficult for children to grow up properly. There are exceptions to the rules of course but getting rid of alcohol, weed, cigarettes, some music, adding two involved parents or guardians to some communities and I believe that could beat white supremacy propaganda. To me nothing's more powerful than a strong family unit.

I understand not everyone is born into a good family. Which is very sad and unfortunate. But maybe that would encourage folks to create their own strong family unit.

I gotcha, but if you are aware of the concept of media propaganda (the intentional manipulation of a groups image/reputation through various means of entertainment) then why would you ever say that hip-hop is "just entertainment"?

If you are aware that hip-hop itself is the most powerful and influential artform on the planet and are also aware of who ultimately controls it, I don't understand how you could brush it off as merely "entertainment".

Its more than "just entertainment", its a weapon being used as a form of psychological warfare to attack the black mind much like what was done in the past way before hip-hop ever existed

and also to attack the overall image and reputation of blacks much like Minstrel Shows of the past:

Black people thinking this destructive music is "just entertainment" is exactly what white supremacy WANTS.

They don't want us to know that its actually being used as a WEAPON against our minds and image.

 

[omnifax]

Growing up,, We had lyricist like Rakim, Kane, The Native Tongues, X Clan, Poor Righteous Teachers, Brand Nubian, Public Enemy,,, I learned many of things from them, than what was being taught in school... During that era, there was black empowerment. We had our leather Afrikan medallions, X hats, shirts, and etc...

What do these rappers today teach our children, other than to be drug fiends, talking about percocet, lean, and encourage our youth to be nothing but addicts and encourage ******dom.

Not to attack you but I think those of us who are older and grew up with a different era of hip-hop have a responsibility to be more truthful about the music during that time particularly when talking to the younger generations.. I'm assuming you are in your thirties based on mc's you referenced (I could be wrong in my assumption) as am I and the main difference between then and now is there was more of a balance of exposure for mc's who didn't necessarily fit the mainstream image. I don't have an answer as to why that was but there were plenty of rappers talking about a lot of ignorant subject matter be it doing/selling drugs, murder, disrespect of women, etc. Again this isn't an attack but just a call for honesty about the era

 

[KingSlime]

What kills me is that most of you clowns on here would be the first to call out the all-pervasive "feminist agenda" "The gay agenda" or "The effeminating of the black man agenda" when you perceive media to be manipulating public opinion or representstion in a direction you don't personally like but oh as soon as someone brings up how your favorite rappers can be used for social control it's "People aren't that easily swayed!" "Its up to the parents to censor things for their children" "People Listen to what they want to listen to!"
Is it oochie wally or is it one mic?

 

[JamilALAmin]

This is wild cuz JayZ birthed all this shyt. When I was coming up I didn't fukk with Kast or SoSo Def All Stars type bass music. I was grinding so I was on that hustling music, and if it wasn't some down south stuff like 3-6 or UGK, it was some up north JayZ/Rocafella shyt. And most brehs like me was doing the same. JayZ is what we came up on, and I'm sure he influenced them music brehs too. And for him to sit here and act like he didnt inspire brehs to cop foreigns, drop bands at the mall or in the club back in the day is pretty fukking lame in my opinion. I fukk Jay and Dr. Watkins, and agree with what their overall message is, but they both on that pie shyt with this one

 

[Henri Christophe]

What kills me is that most of you clowns on here would be the first to call out the all-pervasive "feminist agenda" "The gay agenda" or "The effeminating of the black man agenda" when you perceive media to be manipulating public opinion or representstion in a direction you don't personally like but oh as soon as someone brings up how your favorite rappers can be used for social control it's "People aren't that easily swayed!" "Its up to the parents to censor things for their children" "People Listen to what they want to listen to!"
Is it oochie wally or is it one mic?

its crazy bro..... you would think that these nikkas would have some pride and dignity as a black man and wouldnt defend this shyt.

the black man in america is synonymous for "thug" or "criminal" because of the hip hop agenda... thats just facts.. .and i'm sick and tired of the stereotypes and perpetuation of the c00n lifestyle.

nikkas fully embrace the image of the black man being a drug selling, drug addicted, violent criminal.

I rather other communities do that shyt... let the asians or whites or mexicans promote criminal lifestyles... NOT the black man in america.

We should be the last ones getting on TV promoting bullshyt and destroying our image.

 

[Blackout]

What kills me is that most of you clowns on here would be the first to call out the all-pervasive "feminist agenda" "The gay agenda" or "The effeminating of the black man agenda" when you perceive media to be manipulating public opinion or representstion in a direction you don't personally like but oh as soon as someone brings up how your favorite rappers can be used for social control it's "People aren't that easily swayed!" "Its up to the parents to censor things for their children" "People Listen to what they want to listen to!"
Is it oochie wally or is it one mic?

Word

 

[Made Myself A Boss]

If you are aware that hip-hop itself is the most powerful and influential artform on the planet and are also aware of who ultimately controls it, I don't understand how you could brush it off as merely "entertainment".

Lol..I dont mean to sound disrespectful but I dont think that you really understand how hip hop works..

nobody "controls hip hop" ...

Are white people are the top of the food chain and own the labels? yes... but its no different from how white people own NBA and NFL teams no different how white people own television stations and cars companies

You really need to stop acting like white CEOs are exclusive to "just hip hop"

If black people were better at business they would have the foresight of a Jay-Z and Dr Dre to not just create but to also own your own shyt. (and fyi do think that we are moving into that direction.. thats why see a Roc Nation, and a BBB, and Tyler Perry and Kevin Hart and Jordan owning the Bobcats... LBJ is getting his money right too...etc etc etc)

But rap, just like sports, just like movies merely entertainment and the ones of you in this thread who prop it up as something more than entertainment and as a "way of life" are ones feeling as tho you've been baboozled when you go for job interview with a percocets in your system wearing xxxl tees, and asking you boss to accept you for that position because what your doing is "part of your culture"

Hip hop got yall out here looking like

Let a bunch of brothers who pop percs and sip lean dictate the direction of your life/culture brehs.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Very true.
I already knew what it was lol
That's why I'll never watch

But you'll happily watch ignorant rap music.

Nikkas like yourself are a lost cause.

 

[Henri Christophe]

If black people were better at business they would have the foresight of a Jay-Z and Dr Dre to not just create but to also own your own shyt.

black people dont embrace entrepreneurship or ownership

its all about deals deals deals deals deals!!!!!!!

sports deals!

record deals!

movie deals!

TV deals!

aka "please cut me a check, Mr. White Man!"

start an ownership thread right now and watch how many nikkas run in talking about "but not everyone is supposed to be an entrepreneur though"

we fully embrace having a boss..... in fact, we applaud it.

We are LOST

 

[666 ReVeNGe 666]

But you'll happily watch ignorant rap music.

Nikkas like yourself are a lost cause.

I don't watch trap videos either

Of course I listen to the music but I really only listen to trap music when I'm in the gym.

I'm into RNB

The difference is I can listen to music and it doesn't have any influence on me whatsoever..fukk you and fukk boyce

 

[Frangala]

No other community especially of color emphasizes the argument that it's all up to the parents and therefore excusing bad behavior from visible and influential figures of that community.

Especially Black people who are in dire need of a collective mindset. There's all these threads of black economic empowerment so why isn't that applicable to the collective rearing of children and that covers calling destructive behaviors of entertainers. Black pop culture and specifically popular rap celebrates a culture of violence and death. Let's keep it all the way 100. The kids negatively impacted by these messages are most LIKELY to Black kids because the artists are Black people mostly identify with people who look like them.

It ain't rocket science.

 

[Made Myself A Boss]

black people don't embrace entrepreneurship or ownership

its all about deals deals deals deals deals!!!!!!!

sports deals!

record deals!

movie deals!

TV deals!

aka "please cut me a check, Mr. White Man!"

start an ownership thread right now and watch how many nikkas run in talking about "but not everyone is supposed to be an entrepreneurship though"

we fully embrace having a boss..... in fact, we applaud it.

We are LOST

Black people were behind the curve as far as business sense goes


But like I said I really think that we are moving in the right direction as far as ownership goes Tyler Perry.. Lebron, Kevin Hart, Oprah all know whats up with...


TMT... BBB...Roc Nation... Jordan Brand

Just think if Steph Curry had a dad like Lavar Ball and Curry and his bros had some CCC shoe, or some shyt like that.. he'd be well on his way to a billion right now..


Ownership is and always has the name of the game

 

[Kano]

I gotcha, but if you are aware of the concept of media propaganda (the intentional manipulation of a groups image/reputation through various means of entertainment) then why would you ever say that hip-hop is "just entertainment"?

If you are aware that hip-hop itself is the most powerful and influential artform on the planet and are also aware of who ultimately controls it, I don't understand how you could brush it off as merely "entertainment".

Its more than "just entertainment", its a weapon being used as a form of psychological warfare to attack the black mind much like what was done in the past way before hip-hop ever existed

and also to attack the overall image and reputation of blacks much like Minstrel Shows of the past:

Black people thinking this destructive music is "just entertainment" is exactly what white supremacy WANTS.

They don't want us to know that its actually being used as a WEAPON against our minds and image.

Great point. I see what you're saying. Entertainment/propgands is probably one of the most influential weapons. I guess my reasoning was to not give it power by not influencing me. If others took that approach of seeing what it is,. Acknowledging it and then dismissing it as entertainment then the power of propaganda will be diminished.
You make a very valid point though. It depends on how you want to look at it and decipher how it affects you

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I don't watch trap videos either

Of course I listen to the music but I really only listen to trap music when I'm in the gym.

I'm into RNB

The difference is I can listen to music and it doesn't have any influence on me whatsoever..fukk you and fukk boyce

No fukk you with your ignorant ass. Your upset with Boyce because he's calling out your favorite rapper. Your upset with me because i'm calling you out on your bullshyt. Don't be mad at me, be mad at ya momma for birthing you and leaving your dumbass in the sunken place.

Take you sensitive ass elsewhere fakkit.

 

[Fart Knocker]

The only thing he didn't get right is that Future doesn't actually do the substances he talks about.

Every time the Coli makes a thread about future, his dikk suckers come running in. fukking pathetic.