The Gun Control Farce

[Maschine_Man]

why do some of these retards think that Gun Control=Banning Guns?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Gun Control, and it is severely needed.

 

[Black Panther]

why do some of these retards think that Gun Control=Banning Guns?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Gun Control, and it is severely needed.

'Sup, Canada?

 

[Maschine_Man]

'Sup, Canada?

At least Canada has respectable gun laws/gun control.

Where someone can still own a rifle, still own a pistol/handgun, still own a shotgun, and even many of the "black" rifles are legal.

Want to see some of the guns legal in Canada??

And yet, not even close to the amount of deaths or violence that happens in America.

BTW, not only are these legal, but they are also considered NON-restricted.

So for all the American Gun Nuts out there, even with decent Gun Control, and proper administration, you can still have your fun and do whatever.

 

[Black Panther]

At least Canada has respectable gun laws/gun control.

So for all the American Gun Nuts out there, even with decent Gun Control, and proper administration, you can still have your fun and do whatever.

For the record, I'm a gun owner and am pretty pro-gun.

Here's the difference here in America:

-Gun control is mostly considered a "state issue", i.e. each state decides what kind of gun restrictions they want.

-The gun lobby (mainly the NRA) vehemently rejects ANY reasonable gun restrictions at the federal level by using the 2nd Amendment as a lucky rabbit's foot (which if you actually study the reasoning behind the 2nd Amendment, it doesn't protect gun rights of private citizens at all).

-They do this by stoking people's fears of the government marching in and taking everyone's guns, and even the lightest gun restriction is unquestionably a stepping stone on that path ("first they ban bump stocks, then they'll start requiring background checks for private transactions, then they'll ban your AR-15! And by that time, they'll have all your private info!!!" :infocrazy: )

-The gun lobby also focuses their efforts extensively on state gun restrictions, to make sure there's no national consensus on what gun restrictions there should be.

 

[Maschine_Man]

For the record, I'm a gun owner and am pretty pro-gun.

Here's the difference here in America:

-Gun control is mostly considered a "state issue", i.e. each state decides what kind of gun restrictions they want.

-The gun lobby (mainly the NRA) vehemently rejects ANY reasonable gun restrictions at the federal level by using the 2nd Amendment as a lucky rabbit's foot (which if you actually study the reasoning behind the 2nd Amendment, it doesn't protect gun rights of private citizens at all).

-They do this by stoking people's fears of the government marching in and taking everyone's guns, and even the lightest gun restriction is unquestionably a stepping stone on that path ("first they ban bump stocks, then they'll start requiring background checks for private transactions, then they'll ban your AR-15! And by that time, they'll have all your private info!!!" :infocrazy: )

-The gun lobby also focuses their efforts extensively on state gun restrictions, to make sure there's no national consensus on what gun restrictions there should be.

I'm Pro Gun as well. I just acknowledge that there are things that need to be in place to ensure that guns don't go to unfit ppl.

even if they made no restrictions on any of the guns/ammo at all, they should still do a better job of administering WHO gets a gun. (gun licence, with back ground check, etc.)

I have a restricted gun license right now, I can buy an AR-15 if I wanted, I can buy (more) hand guns. but I also had to get registered through the RCMP. to get that license.

In Canada Gun control is a federal issue, and it should be one in the states as well.

shyt, when I was living in Florida, I loved shooting shyt up, and all you need to get on the range was a hunting license....which they sat you down at a computer (in the store) and you paid 10 bucks to get a hunting license online..... from Alaska!!! WTF??
I was baffled how easy and quick that was.

 

[Black Panther]

In Canada Gun control is a federal issue, and it should be one in the states as well.

This is the main reason why the US's gun issues persist.

The NRA and similar lobbying groups have convinced enough voters that federal gun control = BAD.

 

[DEAD7]

Im talking about here

Its like you pick differing viewpoints, not necessarily because you agree with them or have thought them through, but just to say "I'm not like yall"

Its clown shyt.

Not to mention, like every anti gun control advocate I've talked to (and I talk to a LOT on a regular basis) you have offered no insight on why the US has such a big gun violence problem, or what can be done to address it. Sometimes I get the feeling yall anti-gun control freaks LIKE when shyt like this happens, so you can say "SEE? SEE? THIS IS WHY WE NEED GUNS." Like I said, grade A clown shyt.

Im a fan of the conversations that come from different viewpoints... and i dont see it as a bad thing on a forum like this.



As to your second point the violence we see is(in my opinion) a combination of culture, socioeconomic conditions coupled with close proximity, and poor mental health treatment. As to what can be done, reduce inequality, improve healthcare, and accept guns are a as much a part of American culture as racism is.
The fact that nearly 100 million(if not more) people would physically revolt should we attempt to take guns away should be enough to make the necessary trade off clear in my opinion.

 

[Mook]

Im a fan of the conversations that come from different viewpoints... and i dont see it as a bad thing on a forum like this.



As to your second point the violence we see is(in my opinion) a combination of culture, socioeconomic conditions coupled with close proximity, and poor mental health treatment. As to what can be done, reduce inequality, improve healthcare, and accept guns are a as much a part of American culture as racism is.
The fact that nearly 100 million(if not more) people would physically revolt should we attempt to take guns away should be enough to make the necessary trade off clear in my opinion.

This post went into a full circle and you said fukking nothing.

 

[Black Panther]

The fact that nearly 100 million(if not more) people would physically revolt should we attempt to take guns away should be enough to make the necessary trade off clear in my opinion.

Question: what percentage of that 100+ million look like this

Spoiler

vs. this?

Spoiler

 

[DEAD7]

Im a fan of the conversations that come from different viewpoints... and i dont see it as a bad thing on a forum like this.

This post went into a full circle and you said fukking nothing.

What part of this did you not grasp?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Im a fan of the conversations that come from different viewpoints... and i dont see it as a bad thing on a forum like this.



As to your second point the violence we see is(in my opinion) a combination of culture, socioeconomic conditions coupled with close proximity, and poor mental health treatment. As to what can be done, reduce inequality, improve healthcare, and accept guns are a as much a part of American culture as racism is.
The fact that nearly 100 million(if not more) people would physically revolt should we attempt to take guns away should be enough to make the necessary trade off clear in my opinion.

Where did I say anything about taking guns away....

Thats the problem with you pro gun guys. Just the mere mention of gun control sends you into a fit, but then you want everyone else to be calm and rational. I didn't say anything about taking all the guns away

 

[Losttribe]

why do some of these retards think that Gun Control=Banning Guns?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Gun Control, and it is severely needed.

 

[joeychizzle]

Why bother with gun control

Guns are literally embedded in the very DNA of your culture. You'll never get rid of them. If there's a mass shooting people just say there should've been more guns. If nobody has guns then y'all won't feel safe. If everybody has guns then there'll simply be more murders and the retarded self reinforcing argument of 'if there was more guns someone could've stopped this'.

Has there actually been a case where a 'good guy' armed civilian who actually happened to be at a shooting actually did something? And I don't mean Dan Bilzerian's stupid ass running up on police and asking for a rifle during the Vegas shooting

I can't remember the last time I was horrified at a shooting in America. It's so common now. Most mornings I wake up, make coffee, feed my fishes and hamster, check my feeds, check the weather, look at the latest American shooting and trump diarrhea twitter fingers rant, and get dressed, etc. It's routine now

 

[5n0man]

Where did I say anything about taking guns away....

Thats the problem with you pro gun guys. Just the mere mention of gun control sends you into a fit, but then you want everyone else to be calm and rational. I didn't say anything about taking all the guns away

Notice how the pro gun people never respond when you mention the fact that gun control doesn't mean run in everyones crib and take all the guns.

They'll pretend like they don't know that and keep arguing these extreme points about the government kicking in doors for their guns.

Purposely obtuse



This is why we can't even begin to talk about what the limits should be on owning guns in this country.

 

[intra vires]

why do some of these retards think that Gun Control=Banning Guns?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Gun Control, and it is severely needed.

because they are retards.