The idea of "improving yourself" before you approach women is foreign to some men.

[Mandarin Duck]

Have you ever posted a pic? I honestly can't believe you cant attract anyone

Yea a long time ago.

I got clowned so no I'm not posting anymore pictures.

 

[idonttouchgrass]

Most normal people with regular healthy psyches are A okay with who they attract and leveling up is COMPLETELY unnecessary.

and a pure 10/10,

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Men and women have bought into that corny "be yourself!" shyt from the movies. That doesnt work in real life.

If you want to be able to be romantic and shyt, you need paper. You need to be able to offer a woman a type of experience and lifestyle that she cant easily get with anyone else.

If you have high standards for yourself you'll attract high status women. If you have low standards you'll attract low tier women. This can be applied to women seeking men.

If you're a woman and you want Tupac in a business suit, well what do YOU bring to the table that hed want? p*ssy isnt enough. Any man can hit up the club, dating apps or backpage and get some prime puss. How crisp is your conversation skill? How good is your sense of style? How good is your taste? How do people get upgraded by being in your presence? What kind of things can you put them on to that they cant get anywhere else

If you want a woman built like Keri hilson with Michelle Obama intelligence and skillset and who can put that thang on you like Gianna Michaels well you better not just be some nega with an Everest college degree living in your mommas basement and type 2 diabetes

If you want Tupac in a business suit or real life t'challa you better not have nothing to offer other than mediocre dic succin skills and the ability to pose your ass on a toilet counter top

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

I’m not going to lie I’m guilty of this but fuk love sometimes it’s deeper than being love

We all do from time to time. You just honest enuff to admit it. But most people grow beyond this mentality.
Being with somebody shouldn't be about having somebody to show off to ease the hurt from past rejections or being ignored in the past. It also shouldn't be about one upping an ex or getting back at.

We all might initially feel like that but then there's this magic moment when you become so laser focused on the success you are manifesting in your own life that none of that shyt matters anymore. When that starts gaining momentum, THEN that's when you meet and attract the best people and the irony is---at that point you don't even be trying to sweat nobody.

And that really IS attractive.

 

[semicko82]

We all do from time to time. You just honest enuff to admit it. But most people grow beyond this mentality.
Being with somebody shouldn't be about having somebody to show off to ease the hurt from past rejections or being ignored in the past. It also shouldn't be about one upping an ex or getting back at.

We all might initially feel like that but then there's this magic moment when you become so laser focused on the success you are manifesting in your own life that none of that shyt matters anymore. When that starts gaining momentum, THEN that's when you meet and attract the best people and the irony is---at that point you don't even be trying to sweat nobody.

And that really IS attractive.

Beautiful

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Most normal people with regular healthy psyches are A okay with who they attract and leveling up is COMPLETELY unnecessary.

Leveling up specifically to get a certain mate isn't about self-improvement. It's about ego and validation more often than not.
I told ya'll a lot of people ain't dating looking for love. They are dating looking for validation from the types of males and females they wanted who rejected them in the past.

Sure Kent would agree.

 

[Benefited]

If a woman likes you she likes you period.......No bummyness will change those facts

This thread makes me think of the baddest chick I ever bagged in my life( she passed away 2 weeks back) all I do is work I dont get as fly as I can as these me too hoes be trying to trap a nikka with the puss.......

S::Anyway she was in law school, did her stint in the military and a pure 10/10, and me at my worst n tore up bottoms to my pants had her eating out my hands literally, and how I could see this bad chick with her own issues who simply wanted a working man, who is a father, and a strong body to lean, as she clearly had a issue in her life......When it came to me she'd never claim her man though, I didnt even know she was married until she passed away but this chick was completely out my league and it caused me to panic in my movement but my steady non stalker movements were the key with this......The one time we were supposed to meet it was a tropical storm and we joked about car accidents, and I said I ride through hell to get to you a tropical storm doesn't scare me; the storm was bad and I missed my shot, she goes out of town to school the next day and said she'll holler at me when she comes back into town; we'll she graduated the friday before last, and was heading to NC and her husband drove her off an over pass killing her that following monday..........I missed out on the baddest chick eating out my palm, not one of these bad project hoes looking for pullup brehs, a strong successful woman.....I feel torn up as I know for a fact I was in her head even if we didnt chat for weeks at end or months...


That there was a lesson never pass up on shooting your shot on a bad bytch because of clothes looks or etc; if a chick likes you, theyd give up a piece of they life literally to take your calls every once in a while........

Spoiler

https://www.facebook.com/kendra.l.woods

Breh you need to get this out of your head ASAP,that was a married woman:henbron:. You didn't miss out,she was married with all due respect. You should be upset if anything,and that should help you move on easier. Also validation is important fellas,alot of men fall off because they stop doing it for the women/bytches.

 

[African Peasant]

Honestly it got more to do with confidence than anything. The only thing improving yourself do is help your own confidence and life. Bum, fat, ugly nikkas get quality women all the time. They just have the confidence to shoot their shot.


I know for me once I got a good job and started hitting the gym my confidence in myself rose. My self esteem rose. Then naturally I just started pulling more women.


Confidence is a game changer in life.

This and this.

The real issue is to know what will trigger your confidence, gives you a confidence boost.

Some cats are confident despite being fat and flabby. They can pull some women. But everyone is not wired like that. But a fat cat who is not confident needs to lose weight first. Some cat need to know they fresh to be confident. If you're in the second group, you need to improve yourself aka getting rid of that confidence suppresser whatever that is.

 

[African Peasant]

If you're just trying to date/fukk women here and there, the main improvement you need is your physical appearance. Being attractive (and confident in some cases) is enough to put bad bytches in your bed. You don't need money or a car.

However, if you want to marry a bad bytch, you will need some money and a good situation.

Men and women have bought into that corny "be yourself!" shyt from the movies. That doesnt work in real life.

If you want to be able to be romantic and shyt, you need paper. You need to be able to offer a woman a type of experience and lifestyle that she cant easily get with anyone else.

If you have high standards for yourself you'll attract high status women. If you have low standards you'll attract low tier women. This can be applied to women seeking men.

If you're a woman and you want Tupac in a business suit, well what do YOU bring to the table that hed want? p*ssy isnt enough. Any man can hit up the club, dating apps or backpage and get some prime puss. How crisp is your conversation skill? How good is your sense of style? How good is your taste? How do people get upgraded by being in your presence? What kind of things can you put them on to that they cant get anywhere else

If you want a woman built like Keri hilson with Michelle Obama intelligence and skillset and who can put that thang on you like Gianna Michaels well you better not just be some nega with an Everest college degree living in your mommas basement and type 2 diabetes

If you want Tupac in a business suit or real life t'challa you better not have nothing to offer other than mediocre dic succin skills and the ability to pose your ass on a toilet counter top

Hum. It depends on what you want (look what I wrote earlier). I've seen Keri Hilson type of women dating losers. The things you're listing (money, social status, etc) comes into play for gold diggers and high-status women trying to settle down. But these women are giving their ass to broke cats they are feeling on a physical level.

You don't need money to attract women. But you'll need money to tie them down LTR.

 

[GreenGhxst]

Yall gotta understand that you can get women being yourself, now if you're really improving yourself and dont have the time and financial stability to go on dates etc. that makes sense, but if you're trying to self improve just to go talk to a woman you're hustling backwards imo, you can still self improve while approaching and dating because dating and approaching is a tangible skill you can consciously work on, that's like saying I'm getting ready to sign up for boxing classes by doing cardio, nah nikka you can learn how to box by boxing and then do cardio to support that

 

[Cloutius Maximus]

like other said it comes down to social skills and confidence.

i'm always when nikkas on here or white incel cacs say its all about looks. i'm 6'2 and #handsomegang and got outpulled by my friends who were shorter, uglier, dumber, and had stank breath because they were more sociable and outgoing. i will say women have gotten more looks oriented due to social media but confidence and mouthpiece is still king. only fame will get you p*ssy easier than game.

any city with a thriving IT sector (San Francisco for example) is FILLED with rich whites, asians, and indians with no game. Why you think escorts love the bay area? so getting money isn't a sure thing unless you don't mind breaking bread for p*ssy

 

[knickscity]

Self improvement is exactly that. Improve oneself for themselves. If you're doing it primarily to get females, you lost already.

 

[1 other person]

Most normal people with regular healthy psyches are A okay with who they attract and leveling up is COMPLETELY unnecessary.

Leveling up specifically to get a certain mate isn't about self-improvement. It's about ego and validation more often than not.
I told ya'll a lot of people ain't dating looking for love. They are dating looking for validation from the types of males and females they wanted who rejected them in the past.

Edit: That's not to say you should always be pushing past your limits...but that should be for yourself and the rest will follow. But if u only do ANYTHING for somebody else, you still operating outta thirst energy and no amount of extra will cover that up in your interactions with the opposite sex.

I like your post, but dont agree with all of it. Sometimes, the people you attract may not necessarily be attractive to you. Take somebody overweight for example. If that person looses weight, his or her options will increase. Including the option, of finding someone he or she feels relatively attracted to.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

To be fair the idea of needing to have an arbitrary amount saved up to be "worthy" of any woman is a pathetic mind set further distancing you from the things you want

Plus it’s not true

Watch any episode of divorce court

 

[Sandy_Cheeks]

Interesting thread.