The idea of "improving yourself" before you approach women is foreign to some men.

[BmoreGorilla]

This couldn't be further from the truth.

When you spend time around people you realize how disgusting, horrible, self centered and pure evil they are.

We are the only living beings on the planet who make people suffer for our own enjoyment.

I use to always wonder how PETA could care for animals more than they did humans, but once you actually see human beings for who they truly are it makes perfect sense.

Interactions with other people are learning experiences. I never said they had to be all positive

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Interactions with other people are learning experiences. I never said they had to be all positive

If I burn my hand on the stove once, that's a learning experience.

I don't need to touch it again to know I'm gunna get burned.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

If I burn my hand on the stove once, that's a learning experience.

I don't need to touch it again to know I'm gunna get burned.

Yes but if the stove isn’t hot you won’t burn your hand. Which is to say not all interactions are the same

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Yes but if the stove isn’t hot you won’t burn your hand. Which is to say not all interactions are the same

And how many times do you have to keep burning your hand before you instinctively know it's going to be hot?

 

[phcitywarrior]

All young men should have a season of "singleness" where they simply focusing on themselves and goals.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

And how many times do you have to keep burning your hand before you instinctively know it's going to be hot?

You missing my point breh

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Hehehehe

 

[Mandarin Duck]

You missing my point breh

Naw your missing mine.

I have had enough negative experiences with people to ultimately say they are for the most part, no good.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Naw your missing mine.

I have had enough negative experiences with people to ultimately say they are for the most part, no good.

Nah I got that point. I can tell your jaded af tho. But I can guarantee in my almost 38 years I have had way more negative interactions than you. At the same time I don’t allow those negative interactions to define me. Life is what you make it

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Nah I got that point. I can tell your jaded af tho. But I can guarantee in my almost 38 years I have had way more negative interactions than you. At the same time I don’t allow those negative interactions to define me. Life is what you make it

Well those negative interactions define me.

I've experienced them for too long and continue to experience them for them to not define me.

Good or bad it has determined how I deal with people on a daily basis.


I've had enough experiences with women specifically to see that outside of a sexual gratification, they aren't offering much.


That may have more to do with my surroundings but it's the truth.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Well those negative interactions define me.

I've experienced them for too long and continue to experience them for them to not define me.

Good or bad it has determined how I deal with people on a daily basis.


I've had enough experiences with women specifically to see that outside of a sexual gratification, they aren't offering much.


That may have more to do with my surroundings but it's the truth.

Wallow in self pity if you want

 

[semicko82]

Well those negative interactions define me.

I've experienced them for too long and continue to experience them for them to not define me.

Good or bad it has determined how I deal with people on a daily basis.


I've had enough experiences with women specifically to see that outside of a sexual gratification, they aren't offering much.


That may have more to do with my surroundings but it's the truth.

You seem like an idealist who had some bad experiences in life.

 

[Neuromancer]

You missing my point breh

@DarianaGrande

You are both right. Learning when and when not to touch as stove is great to learn. But OP's issue is a case of once bitten twice shy. He's had bad experiences. I personally don't think he should look for advice on here.

 

[CopiousX]

And say what

It’s not that complicated. Simply say: “hi, my name is @Mandarin Duck . I was standing over there and I thought you were [insert compliment here], so I had to come meet you. What’s your name ?”



If you live in a metropolitan city, you don’t even need game (although it improves your odds) to make this work. If you approach enough women, odds are high that at least one of them is single and willing to put up with your bullsht.



The only caveat is that if you use no game/technique while running the numbers game; you need the mental fortitude (or “no shts given attitude”) to dismiss random losses, to get your win on the 30th attempt.