The "Kobe was a sidekick" argument needs to stop

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dumbass kobe coulda won 4 straight but chose to shoot 10-27 against the pistons in the finals..i think he shot 38% for the SERIES

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that's ricky rubio #s :deadrose:
Nah. The 4Peat was halted by Shaq waiting until preseason to get surgery and Kobe had to play with the awesome frontline of Soumale Sasuke & Samaki Walker. Shaq came back fat and out of shape. Kobe had to carry them in feb. Shaq was still fat and out of shape. Playoffs roll around and SA beat them. Kobe is pissed and ha unprotected sex with a harlot who screams rape.
 

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Shaq would not guard pick and rolls his entire career bro.

How can you score more than 26 when you're not getting the ball?

Kobe stans smh
There's this thing called rebounding. Both offensive and defensive and Shaq got beasted by Ben Wallace. Nobody on either team shot well. The game was won on the boards. SOmewhere where Shaq's presence was lacking.
 

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Nah. The 4Peat was halted by Shaq waiting until preseason to get surgery and Kobe had to play with the awesome frontline of Soumale Sasuke & Samaki Walker. Shaq came back fat and out of shape. Kobe had to carry them in feb. Shaq was still fat and out of shape. Playoffs roll around and SA beat them. Kobe is pissed and ha unprotected sex with a harlot who screams rape.
Ur right. Got my years mixed up. Either way kobe was ass in those finals. If only social media would have been around back then
 

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Ur right. Got my years mixed up. Either way kobe was ass in those finals. If only social media would have been around back then
The whole team was ass. The Pistons game plan was let the "shooters" beat them. They couldn't. Shaq had a part in it too. He would get the ball pound it pound it, then kick it out with 3 -4 seconds on the clock for a bad shot attempt. Shaq got numbers but he did not beast in any way shape or form.
 

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Ur right. Got my years mixed up. Either way kobe was ass in those finals. If only social media would have been around back then
Shaq was the only motherfukker halfway productive...Kobe got SHUT DOWN. He couldn't get in when he wanted..he didn't hit open shots..he was a botch..he didn't get the job done and that's why they didn't repeat and he was in tears as the fukkin Pistons celebrated. Guy is an idiot.
 

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Keep shytting on these fukking clowns breh :mjlol:


bu-bu-but Shaq won 3 MVP's :mjlol:


Shaq wouldn't have won shyt without Kobe... What don't you fakkits understand this yet

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There's a reason Buss chose Kobe over Shaq... :heh:
LMAO!

IF THEY WERE USIN SINGLE-COVERAGE AGAINST SHAQ AND HE ONLY PUT UP 26 PER GAME, WHAT DOES THAT TELL U? A MOTIVATED SHAQ WHO WAS STILL IN SHAPE WOULDA PUT 35+ NIGHTLY ON ANY SINGLE COVERAGE......BUT HE WAS NO LONGER THE SAME SHAQ. AND YEA, KOBE HAD TO TRY AND OVERCOMPENSATE FOR THAT, WHICH DIDNT EXACTLY WORK OUT. SO BILLUPS IS ESSENTIALLY SAYIN THEY WERE ABLE TO ENTICE KOBE TO TRY OVERCOMPENSATING FOR SHAQ'S DEFICIENCIES, WHICH I WOULD AGREE WITH.....THE FACT REMAINS THAT THE DEFENSIVE END IS WHAT DID IT.

LOL@these fairy tales in revision..no damn single coverage was stopping Shaq and had they gave him the ball more, he could of got 50pts a game really since Kobe couldn't hold down his own when he kept bricking time and time again.
 

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You blaming Shaq for Kobe not hitting SHOTS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...you nyggas ARE BUCK fukkING WILD:laugh:


IS THAT WHAT I SAID IDIOT? READ IT AGAIN...I SAID THE SERIES WAS LOST ON THE DEFENSIVE END, CONSIDERING IT WAS A DEFENSIVE ORIENTED SERIES. AND SINCE PISTONS COULD DEFEND WHILE THE LAKERS COULDNT, LAKERS LOST....AND WHO WAS THE WEAK LINK ON DEFENSE? SHAQ, AND IT WASNT EVEN CLOSE.
 

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Shaq was the only motherfukker halfway productive...Kobe got SHUT DOWN. He couldn't get in when he wanted..he didn't hit open shots..he was a botch..he didn't get the job done and that's why they didn't repeat and he was in tears as the fukkin Pistons celebrated. Guy is an idiot.


AGAIN, UR ONLY LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE COURT, IDIOT....SHAQ WAS BEING GUARDED WITH SINGLE COVERAGE. OF COURSE HE'S GUNA GET NUMBERS. PISTON'S GAMEPLAN WAS ESSENTIALLY "LET SHAQ BEAT US"....AND HE COULDN'T. ESPECIALLY NOT ON DEFENSE.
 

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IS THAT WHAT I SAID IDIOT? READ IT AGAIN...I SAID THE SERIES WAS LOST ON THE DEFENSIVE END, CONSIDERING IT WAS A DEFENSIVE ORIENTED SERIES. AND SINCE PISTONS COULD DEFEND WHILE THE LAKERS COULDNT, LAKERS LOST....AND WHO WAS THE WEAK LINK ON DEFENSE? SHAQ, AND IT WASNT EVEN CLOSE.
Shaq was the WEAK LINK on the Lakers in 2004 not crushing the goddamn Pistons? WTF are you talking about? Shaq punked them nyggas every game but his team went WEAK on him just like the Magic did when it was basically Shaq taking on the damn Rockets by himself.
 

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This thread is a perfect reason why Kobe HAD to "run Shaq out of town." Had he not, these clowns would have ran with the narrative that Kobe couldnt win without Shaq

Any Laker fan that is honest with themselves, will tell you that Shaq was the best player on the team. But to pretend that Kobe was a "sidekick" IS diminishing his impact. Who got the ball at the end of the game? You telling me if the Bulls down two, they're going to Scottie over Michael? Of course not. Yet the Lakers were going to Kobe over Shaq. So to pretend that he was a "sidekick" is being disingenuous. It was 1A and1B which hardly constitutes a "sidekick" role for the 1B.
 

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AGAIN, UR ONLY LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE COURT, IDIOT....SHAQ WAS BEING GUARDED WITH SINGLE COVERAGE. OF COURSE HE'S GUNA GET NUMBERS. PISTON'S GAMEPLAN WAS ESSENTIALLY "LET SHAQ BEAT US"....AND HE COULDN'T. ESPECIALLY NOT ON DEFENSE.
WHY DIDN"T that SINGLE COVERAGE STOP SHAQ from SLAMMING on them every damn game? Ben Wallace didn't do JACK shyt...haha. All they could do was put bodies on him but the key was letting Shaq go wild and stopping Kobe and that's why they won. All those cute stats his stans put up from 2001, 2002, and 2003? That shyt wasn't there against the Pistons and had they given Shaq the ball more, they would of had a better offensive stride against the strong defense of the Pistons because Shaq wasn't gonna be stopped at all.
 

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Shaq was the WEAK LINK on the Lakers in 2004 not crushing the goddamn Pistons? WTF are you talking about? Shaq punked them nyggas every game but his team went WEAK on him just like the Magic did when it was basically Shaq taking on the damn Rockets by himself.


ARE U NOT PAYIN ATTENTION, U FUCCIN DUMBSHIIT? U KEEP IGNORING THE MAIN POINT....THE ISSUE WAS DEFENSE, WHERE SHAQ WAS GETTING SHIITED ON IN PICK-AND-ROLL SITUATIONS EVERY TIME DOWN. IT WAS NOT AN OFFENSIVE SERIES, SHAQ'S 26 PPG WASNT PUNKIN SHIIT, SON. KEEP UP.
 

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WHY DIDN"T that SINGLE COVERAGE STOP SHAQ from SLAMMING on them every damn game? Ben Wallace didn't do JACK shyt...haha. All they could do was put bodies on him but the key was letting Shaq go wild and stopping Kobe and that's why they won. All those cute stats his stans put up from 2001, 2002, and 2003? That shyt wasn't there against the Pistons and had they given Shaq the ball more, they would of had a better offensive stride against the strong defense of the Pistons because Shaq wasn't gonna be stopped at all.


AGAIN, SHAQ WAS SLOW AND OUT OF SHAPE IN 2004....GOT LIKE 2 BLOCKED SHOTS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES AND WAS BEING GUARDED 1-ON-1, ONLY TO SCORE 26 PPG. THIS IS NOT A PRIME SHAQ WE TALKIN ABOUT....BUT THATS NOT EVEN THE POINT. THE POINT IS THAT HE DIDN'T PLAY DEFENSE, WHICH IS A KEY PART OF WHY LAKERS LOST. WTF DONT U GET KID?
 

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This thread is a perfect reason why Kobe HAD to "run Shaq out of town." Had he not, these clowns would have ran with the narrative that Kobe couldnt win without Shaq

Any Laker fan that is honest with themselves, will tell you that Shaq was the best player on the team. But to pretend that Kobe was a "sidekick" IS diminishing his impact. Who got the ball at the end of the game? You telling me if the Bulls down two, they're going to Scottie over Michael? Of course not. Yet the Lakers were going to Kobe over Shaq. So to pretend that he was a "sidekick" is being disingenuous. It was 1A and1B which hardly constitutes a "sidekick" role for the 1B.
Nah...you can't say it was 1b during the championship years...he was used as a closer but it was really a Horry three that saved their asses when it counted and kept history in their favor.
 
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