'The Last of Us' - Season 2 Thread (NO GAME SPOILERS!) | HBO | Neil Druckmann stepping away from creative involvement

[kingofnyc]

if they got the casting and story right, folks in this thread wouldn't be complaining (outside of being a contrarian fakkit). My wife maybe saw 5 mins of the TLOU game franchise combined; even SHE tapped out of the series because shxt got weirder and dumb in the second season. Ellie's character devolved into an incompetent lackey.

And They were not in a lose-lose situation because they showed what they were capable of in season 1, even with odd casting. we waited for mid

exactly I can’t understand why people get so emotional for taking constructive criticism
I can understand if the overwhelming majority of people were loving this season and you had one or two trolls posting how bad it is. … but the fact is and the truth is they lost over 50% of their viewership from season one

it’s really no possible way to defend this

 

[KillerB88]

Ppl woulda complained that Katy O’Brian isn’t white and complained sayin she looks Trans.

Look at the complains and jokes nikkas made in this very thread over Bella Ramsey’s looks, despite her barely being 21 years old and playing a teenager.

nikkas woulda complained REGARDLESS.
To act like that’s not the case, is to be delusional from reality.

“They” were in a lose-lose situation and casted who they felt fit the story they wanted to tell within TV context.

No need to complain endlessly about how things were in the game.

It is what it is, just enjoy the show how it’s presented for TV context.

Are you on the production team? I don't need you to tell me what to "enjoy". I didn't play the game and don't care about any of that drama. I'm speaking as someone looking to be entertained. They're failing at that-- and clearly many others agree. It's not a debate. It's my opinion and that of others.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Finally finished. Had to watch 4 episodes solo dolo cause my lady bailed

Curious, did that have to do with Joel dying?

 

[Beer Drinker]

Curious, did that have to do with Joel dying?

That and she really doesn't care for Bella's face. Joel was softening that blow for her

 

[Arianne Martell]

this season is ass...straight

 

[Loose]

I mean the game story was a long fetch quest after joel so not surprising season 2 isnt good.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

That was the season finale

 

[kingofnyc]

when u have to change your script because of bad casting goes wrong

HBO cant be happy about this

 

[Sensitive Christian Grey]

 

[Trav]

I would have liked to see what Bella could do to riss to the occasion if she was given an actual competent script. Don't care what no one says....I blame the writers & show runners for where they took Big Ellie, not her

 

[Loose]

Wasn't familiar with Isabela Merced game, she is super attractive

 

[Jazzy B.]

HBO does NOT give a f*ck about what Grace Randolph thinks lol.

Also, she's very

That’s not what he’s saying.

He’s saying she represents the casual viewer.

The casual viewer who switched off after Joel was killed.

 

[Loose]

I might be the only person that thought this season was coo? Lol me and my girl watched it together, our favorite part of Sunday nights


The game is obviously the game though. One of my favorites ever. I didn’t go into the show expecting that. It’s way too much to live up to. I do enjoy em both separately tho which is fine


My main critique would be I wish we could have seen Ellie on some real murder shyt a lil more. I hate that everything goes for realism these days (thanks to Christopher Nolan)

At the end of the day it’s still an adaptation of a fukkin zombie game. We don’t need to be crazy realistic. play into what the game was and let her spin on nikkas like colombiana

Just finished it season was fine, of tou played the game this is honestly the perfect spot to end because the next section is out of seattle.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Mazin is so stupid he may have unintentionally created a truce between gamers and folks who only watched the show

 

[Sghost597]

Man.... They really butchered Ellie Day 2.

It really burns me in how they changed the context of Ellie going to Seattle. The show really paint Ellie to being extremely selfish, incompetent, and irrational whereas the game. Tommy bolts to hunt down his brother killer. Jesse come to bail you out and isn't a moody bytch the whole time. They get stuck in crazy situation with the only solution for Ellie is fight her way out of it.

The show just paints an ugly picture of "Why the fukk you doing here? "

Whereas the game. So, far.... I feel trapped with no way back and the only path feels forward.

Cutting two essential flashback sequences is brutal.

I will say... That the pacing in the game is definitely kind of dragging, but the show cut like 70% of Day 2....

I do have a problem with the Saint Mary Flashback. Ellie going to SLC by herself is at minimum a two or three days trip. Extremely dangerous. Illogical.

So, I think the show did made the objective decision by altering that one, but the compromise with the Eugene wasn't a better alternative. It just made Ellie look childish and Joel to be a coward. It wasn't all that captivating writing. Just really basic and cost effective. A lot of the issue is the commitment of fast tracking everything.

I still strongly believe that season 2 should of just been about:
- Developing Jackson and it's resident
- Joel and Ellie slowly detoriating relationship and working their way to forgiveness
- Introducing Seattle and WLF and Scar War
-Finish the season with Joel Death

Then, Season 3 should of just been the 3 Days. Whether in sequence or separate. That's a personal taste. I found the cliffhanger to be extremely cliche and gimmicky, but it works as a mid season break.

I don't understand why the execution is sooo bad.Maybe the guy who directed parody films got way too much credit for a historical drama that require so little of creative liberties.