The Latino, Jews, Arabs and c00ns have killed NY Hiphop

[CoryMack]

The south killed NY hip hop and the whole entire genre B. Everybody want to rap on them trap beats.

No y’all killed yourselves when y’all started biting the west coast style gangbangin and then tried to convince the rest of us that y’all been on that shyt. Jumping on trap beats was the next lame step y’all took. Fat Joe telling y’all to switch your style to southpaw for a quick buck. The truth is you all have been lost and lying to yourselves for at least the last 15 to 20 years, and like a woman you take no accountability and blame everyone but yourselves. That kinda c*ntishness shows y’all don’t deserve the crown.

 

[Wild self]

nikkas talkin bout the south and tricking and stripper culture. my nikka that's some Atlanta shyt that started in the early 00s wit BMF. Southern rap has always been hard on hoes pimp street shyt.

The truth is nikkas don't know shyt about southern rap, 90s or 00s. nikkas talk about southern rap like its all D4L, Franchize Boys, and Soulja Boy. Do some research. At the end of the day I fail to see how one region goin one way mean another region got to follow. If you want immortal technique then support immortal technique.

The south has always had way more variety than NY anyway.

Nah, we ain't talking about the old school south like 8 Ball and MJG, Scarface, old Three 6 Mafia and em. We talking about the mid 00s shyt that promoted that fukkery on an unparalleled level. Like Gucci Mane, them one hit wonders, and even T-Pain with "in love with a stripper" type songs that took over the radio and turned it to a simp-fest.

 

[intruder]

Nah, we ain't talking about the old school south like 8 Ball and MJG, Scarface, old Three 6 Mafia and em. We talking about the mid 00s shyt that promoted that fukkery on an unparalleled level. Like Gucci Mane, them one hit wonders, and even T-Pain with "in love with a stripper" type songs that took over the radio and turned it to a simp-fest.

But let's not act like the NE didnt have its own set/version of fukkery.

It's that North vs South superiority complex i told you about again. To outsisers you're all americans or blacks. But go ahead and fight among yourselves.

 

[Pit Bull]

Nah, we ain't talking about the old school south like 8 Ball and MJG, Scarface, old Three 6 Mafia and em. We talking about the mid 00s shyt that promoted that fukkery on an unparalleled level. Like Gucci Mane, them one hit wonders, and even T-Pain with "in love with a stripper" type songs that took over the radio and turned it to a simp-fest.

But even then them lean wit it , crank that, and one hit wonder nikkas wasn't the hottest out the south. Gucci Mane is a traditional gangsta rapper Go Head was just a single. He don't belong with them ringtone nikkas. Gotti, Jeezy, Gucci, and Boosie was the hottest in the south at that time. Them dudes is gangsta rap no different than any random east coast street rapper. T Pain is an rnb nikka. That TI shyt bout the only tricking song I can think of. Y'all judging off some mainstream singles. I think BMF is the root of that simp trick shyt you gotta blame Meech them for taking that shyt to Atlanta.

 

[intruder]

jew owned radio stations have changed Hiphop

Question for you: Werent these staions always owned by Jews, tho?

You say this as if that's what changed and therefore killed hip-hop.But the problem is they always on the stationsSo how come them owning it JUST NOW suddenly killed it?

 

[KingCairo]

The south killed NY hip hop and the whole entire genre B. Everybody want to rap on them trap beats.




This is becoming a trend again. Latino trap artist are featuring with American brehs for one of their songs and vice versa. Which it's not a bad idea for them cos they're gaining more fans.

So biggie and jay z werent pushing the trap lifestyle and materialism before the south ever took off ?



You nikkazs gone stop blaming the south as if it’s the only culprit ... OutKast, Goodie Mob Sacface etc were way more substantive than a lot of NY rappers during that era

 

[Pit Bull]

I remember when Atlanta nikkas was dissing simps and tricks so to see people try to reduce the entire South down to simps and tricks is hilarious. Like I said that's some BMF injected New Atlanta shyt. When hoes hear most of these southern beats they gon shake they ass regardless.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Hot97 morning show is hosted by two Jews and a Latina. shyt is a joke

 

[skeetsinternal]

Just a couple of months ago I was in Florida vacationing and was at a party talking to a guy who used to be an exec for a label . Can't recall his real name but people are calling them P.

So we were by the pool with the DJ jamming and a few of us were gathered around him and He said one of the factors that people overlook is that New York rappers got comfortable , failing to change with the times and never paid attention to what peoplr people wanted which is to just to have fun. They failed to make the music fun because everything had to be so hard and intense because that's just how New Yorkers are. That opened the door to the southern rappers to get penetration in the northeast because it's NOT all the time that you want to hear all that hardcore intense Mobb Deep type shyt. I used Mobb Deep as an example here because that's what the DJ was playing when the conversation started.

That's not what cause New York's downfall but it was surely part of it because other rappers from other places made music that people could dance and have fun to.

It's not what he said verbatim but something to that effect.

Point well said. I point to Boogie Down Productions back in the 80s, no body was rapping like them, it's not even debatable. Everyone sounded like Kurtis Blow. BDP changed the sound of not only NY Hiphop but Hiphop as a whole. They combined bumping beats and proactive hardcore lyrics that related to the streets they was from. They not only had the streets but they had the black DJs /radio supporting their music. Wbls, Kiss Fm, Cool DJ Red Alert, Marly Marl. NY HIPHOP had a black identity back then, Ricans etc was off to the side break dancing or fukking with they salsa/merengue and would get they wig pushed back for using the word nikka Fyi. As a matter of fact the God's and Earths and 5 percent nation was influencial in Hiphop ala Rakim, Brand Nubians, Poor Righteous Teachers, Wu-Tang even Jay Z. You could say it was an order plus gatekeepers in Hiphop and NY rap scene was a brotherhood /family. This is why you could get collaborations like the Symphony with rappers like G Rap, Kane, Craig G, Master Ace etc, collabs for Self Destruction with Krs1, Stetsonic, Kool Moe Dee, Just Ice, and Heavy D.
Not saying it's a bad thing but once these rappers started getting money they sold out Hiphop to entities that controlled who we let in and what the rappers should rap about (money, bytches, drugs). Notable wtf rappers would be Robert Matthew Van Winkle aka Vanilla Ice who won Grammy and nominated for best rap album. Then you get the cats who want to debate that Latinos been in Hiphop from the beginning but carrying the DJs crates of records and break dancing don't qualify. They was side nikkas dikk riding until somebody put them on. shyt ain't been the same since BIG died

 

[75 Others]

OP being a clown again, too bytch to do something about it, yet quick to show text messages like some high school kid

 

[skeetsinternal]

OP being a clown again, too bytch to do something about it, yet quick to show text messages like some high school kid

Whats your race or background?

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Lets be honest, 50 Cent killed NY Hip Hop

Lazy take

 

[Kenny West]

Yall let it happen. All nikkas cared about was aesthetic. If it looked hood and grimy mfs was all over it and willingly degraded the culture. Nobody cared about treating hiphop as an artform, nobody cared about preserving the four pillars. There are plenty of instances "im not a rapper im a hustler" "i dumbed down my lyrics to double my dollars" "foh with that rappity rap shyt we just tryna have fun and crank that soulja boy" "aint nobody trying to listen to that old shyt!" "Rap is a young mans game" etc.

Now hiphop is being destroyed by those same aesthetics and arguements. Now hiphop is a vehicle to monetize the fame of social media figures. (Cardi b, blueface, cash me outside) Now some lame who's not even black can say nikka and reach rap superstardom off forgettable songs by shooting his music video "on the block" waving around guns. And people eat it right up

Dont cry now, the chickens coming home to roost. I remember when nikkas were lauding the "death of backpack rap " just a few years ago. Now image controls everything and the media controls image

Eat up.

 

[010101]

nyc name-drop for the clout as usual

you don't really have an issue with non.blacks adopting the culture & saying nikka cause if you did you'd make a thread about all the mexicans & various asians out west in those hoods

different regions contributed different elements

i said in another thread how nyc brought it in & it was like a mental sport nyc valued the art of it

i would give the midwest the contribution of soul

now the elements that have become over emphasized & weaponized are the gang culture from out west & the trap booty club simp culture from down south

the pushers the run the record business machine know it's easiest to appeal & override folks by aiming for the most base aspects of human existence

so here we are in the regionless internet era stuck on some bs

but really i know all this is finna turn into is ot posters sucking up thee.city

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[GreatestLaker]

Whats your race or background?

You're asking about other people's background, but you're an outsider yourself. You aren't African-American, you're a Jamaican. Hip-hop is AA music.