The Latino, Jews, Arabs and c00ns have killed NY Hiphop

[How Sway?]

Yall let it happen. All nikkas cared about was aesthetic. If it looked hood and grimy mfs was all over it and willingly degraded the culture. Nobody cared about treating hiphop as an artform, nobody cared about preserving the four pillars. There are plenty of instances "im not a rapper im a hustler" "i dumbed down my lyrics to double my dollars" "foh with that rappity rap shyt we just tryna have fun and crank that soulja boy" "aint nobody trying to listen to that old shyt!" "Rap is a young mans game" etc.

Now hiphop is being destroyed by those same aesthetics and arguements. Now hiphop is a vehicle to monetize the fame of social media figures. (Cardi b, blueface, cash me outside) Now some lame who's not even black can say nikka and reach rap superstardom off forgettable songs by shooting his music video "on the block" waving around guns. And people eat it right up

Dont cry now, the chickens coming home to roost. I remember when nikkas were lauding the "death of backpack rap " just a few years ago. Now image controls everything and the media controls image

Eat up.

/thread

 

[xCivicx]

Theres a reason why NY radio doesnt set trends like it used to back in the day

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Hip Hop in NYC was a deejay-centered, youth-driven, music party culture pretty much up until
the mid to late 80s.

The extreme violence associated with the decade of crack trade/crack culture from '85-'95, destroyed the
park/community center/dining hall/skating rink independent party aspect of previous the NYC b-boy scene.

Shootouts at The Rooftop, Union Square, Latin Quarters and Encore's did the same thing to the club scene.

As the party aspect died, the rapper recordings-based industry rose, minimizing the deejay and turntables scene.

Meanwhile r&b, club and house continued to live at Bentley's, The Silver Shadow and Zanzibar's. Dancehall was also pumping from Brooklyn throughout the city late 80s/early 90s with Shelly Thunder, Tiger, Super Cat, etc.

When Yo MTV, The Source, and Hot 97 enter the industry as white-run tastemakers, all the nuances of NYC youth music variety were strained out, and have been homogenized ever since.

 

[010101]

The problem is many people want to say groupX invented suchAndSuch gnre/style as if the way things come about is one person in said group goes in a lab and pulls shyt out of thin air. Truth is most things that come about are influenced by others before it. Like some clown want to believe that everything is invented in America and has no root anywhere else.

• Thought i seen this video of Africans from Zimbabwe or something breakdancing as early as mid to late 50s.
• R&B has evolved but came from Afro-cuban rhythm influence.
• I thought i saw a video of James Brown talking about the early beginnings of rap and it had something to do with Louisiana.

But NY is NY so they get all the props there is to get

humans in many parts of the world can arrive at similar points of cultural expression without direct contact

nyc is the birthplace if you begrudge thee.city that all i can say is i wish you peace

Ok so basically you don't know shyt?

do you know enough to make the statements you make¿

everyone speaks from a measure of ignorance

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[skeetsinternal]

humans in many parts of the world can arrive at similar points of cultural expression without direct contact

nyc is the birthplace if you begrudge thee.city that all i can say is i wish you peace



do you know enough to make the statements you make¿

everyone speaks from a measure of ignorance

*

Yes nikka yes. PhD in east coast Latinology breh, FOH .

 

[ROBEEZYKILLA]

Ny hip hop killed ny hip hop...y’all wanted to make all this grimy music (which I’m a fan of) but y’all never/barely never thought about the bytches....bytches wanna dance and get loose....you wanna hear some illmatic at the club?....females are big consumers of hip hop you think they wanna be deciphering lyrics and listen multis at the club ...fukk no....they don’t wanna hear no boom bap shyt....south found a lane and now y’all jealous smh

 

[Sccit]

NY BEEN TREND HOPPERS .. REMEMBER IN THE MID 90S THEY WAS TRYNA SOUND LIKE THE WEST. THEN 2000S IT WAS THE SOUTH. NOW THEY ON THAT LATINO WAVE ..... NY AINT BEEN ORIGINAL SINCE THE 80S IF WE BEIN REAL

 

[skeetsinternal]

Hip Hop in NYC was a deejay-centered, youth-driven, music party culture pretty much up until
the mid to late 80s.

The extreme violence associated with the decade of crack trade/crack culture from '85-'95, destroyed the
park/community center/dining hall/skating rink independent party aspect of previous the NYC b-boy scene.

Shootouts at The Rooftop, Union Square, Latin Quarters and Encore's did the same thing to the club scene.

As the party aspect died, the rapper recordings-based industry rose, minimizing the deejay and turntables scene.

Meanwhile r&b, club and house continued to live at Bentley's, The Silver Shadow and Zanzibar's. Dancehall was also pumping from Brooklyn throughout the city late 80s/early 90s with Shelly Thunder, Tiger, Super Cat, etc.

When Yo MTV, The Source, and Hot 97 enter the industry as white-run tastemakers, all the nuances of NYC youth music variety were strained out, and have been homogenized ever since.

So true.

I would add the Roxy, Paladium and Tunnel to the list. Biltmore Ballroom for the Dancehall.

 

[010101]

Yes nikka yes. PhD in east coast Latinology breh, FOH .

*

 

[skeetsinternal]

NY BEEN TREND HOPPERS .. REMEMBER IN THE MID 90S THEY WAS TRYNA SOUND LIKE THE WEST. THEN 2000S IT WAS THE SOUTH. NOW THEY ON THAT LATINO WAVE ..... NY AINT BEEN ORIGINAL SINCE THE 80S IF WE BEIN REAL

When Funk Master Flex be dropping bombs now talmbout this is what NY sound like I be cracking the fuk up. NY sound was that BadBoy Sound along with Wu, Mobb Deep, Nas etc. It aint been the same since BIG died. After his death the floodgates opened up letting in these weak MCs

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Just a couple of months ago I was in Florida vacationing and was at a party talking to a guy who used to be an exec for a label . Can't recall his real name but people are calling them P.

So we were by the pool with the DJ jamming and a few of us were gathered around him and He said one of the factors that people overlook is that New York rappers got comfortable , failing to change with the times and never paid attention to what peoplr people wanted which is to just to have fun. They failed to make the music fun because everything had to be so hard and intense because that's just how New Yorkers are. That opened the door to the southern rappers to get penetration in the northeast because it's NOT all the time that you want to hear all that hardcore intense Mobb Deep type shyt. I used Mobb Deep as an example here because that's what the DJ was playing when the conversation started.

That's not what cause New York's downfall but it was surely part of it because other rappers from other places made music that people could dance and have fun to.

It's not what he said verbatim but something to that effect.

There is a lot of truth here.

Early 90s, NYC reacted to the growing national success of NWA/Ruthless/Death Row and the influence of crack trade culture in the city, hardening the party/political emcee into a commercially-threatening rapper in order to get noticed by The Source and Hot 97.

Plus, NYC didn't depend just on rappers for our party music.

Hip-hop and r&b hybrid tracks like "Too Hype" and "I An't The One" would fill the dance floor in early 90s NYC as quickly as anything going back then.




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[LunaticVillage415]

NY killed NY Hip Hop, the fukk is you talmbout? Always trying to deflect when it's nikkas who the common denominator. NY nikkas don't respect independent hustle. Unless nikkas is on TV and on the radio, NY ain't co-signing. The problem ain't Jews, the problem is that NY Hip Hop rely on Jews, Latinos and cacs. I'm from the Bay, the independent rap capital. Where Master P got his game from. If you a dope artist in the Bay, the hood is going to fukk with you whether fakkit ass hypebeast ass Complex mag name drops you or not. Bay nikkas don't care about cacs in NJ or Utah. NY nikkas sit around waiting for labels to sign them like this is still the 90's. Like every rapper from NY in the 80's didn't sign a bad contract. On top of that, NY artists who actually sound like NY artists aren't even popping in NY, why would they be making noise nationwide? I can't even remember the last NY rapper who actually sounded like a straight NY rapper. Joey Badass maybe?

NY ain't had a legit movement since Dipset. And they were no Wu Tang or Boot Camp. A$AP were some suspect fashion nikkas masquerading as rap nikkas which is why they are literally nothing but Calvin Klein models these days. NY is a city of 8 million people and its the birthplace of Hip Hop.

Blame NY nikkas not Jews, spics and cacs. The black population in the Bay keeps declining every year, yet log into Thizzler.com and it's new videos and full albums being dropped daily from random Bay nikkas and a lot of that shyt goes viral and produces local rap celebs. NY nikkas don't wanna rap unless they sure they going to be on the Breakfast Club, get 100 million views on YouTube and get favorable ratings from cac ass music critics and have their music buzzing with suburban cacs coast to coast. NY thirsts for mainstream cac acceptance when Rap was a music founded by ghetto outcasts in the projects. Go back to that.

 

[Greenhornet]

times just changed

it will be back when rap completely dies and something gutter and throwback comes back out

Mf doom was a baby boom of NY originality

over psychedlic boom bap west coast and his own rough bap beats


That will happen again many years from now

 

[BlackBall]

Theres a reason why NY radio doesnt set trends like it used to back in the day

Thank god for the underground

 

[Pit Bull]

The problem is many people want to say groupX invented suchAndSuch gnre/style as if the way things come about is one person in said group goes in a lab and pulls shyt out of thin air. Truth is most things that come about are influenced by others before it. Like some clown want to believe that everything is invented in America and has no root anywhere else.

• Thought i seen this video of Africans from Zimbabwe or something breakdancing as early as mid to late 50s.
• R&B has evolved but came from Afro-cuban rhythm influence.
• I thought i saw a video of James Brown talking about the early beginnings of rap and it had something to do with Louisiana.

But NY is NY so they get all the props there is to get

What?

There's video footage of African Americans break dancing in the 1890s bro.