The LeBron James appreciation, Cleveland Cavs unappreciation thread

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cavs in 3 :russ::russ::russ::russ:
 

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Lebron has to be the most pampered superstar ever. When he wins, he gets all the credit but when he loses, we hear all the excuses under the sun made for him. "He needs more help" " His team mates are letting him down" . The leader of every team is suppose to shoulder the responsibility/blame for the team, win or lose.
It must be a great situation/position to be in. get all the credit but none of the blame:wow:
 

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It makes total sense. Teams commonly include their franchise cornerstones in decision making.

LeBron has a very strong pull in the moves that are made in Cleveland. Year in, year out.

The roster and team that is in Cleveland, it's not what he was simply "given." He helped craft and handpick the "talent" on this Cavs squad. Even the coaching change in 16.

Now they're old, unathletic, not making shots, and title window closed.

This is what happens when a player has so much say in roster construction and puppet head coach placement. Guys like Kerr and Stevens run circles around this clown Lue.

But ya, "it simply doesn't make sense."
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I think it's great that a key player like LeBron gets asked or even involved about players.. but his level of influence is too much. JR would maybe not be in the league if it wasn't for LeBron.. The 3-peat Bulls (both teams) were picked to put MJ in a position to help the team win Rings.. but he did not even have as much say I think as LeBron so as far as that's concerned: hell yeah, he played a role in this. He preferred having Ty Lue who just nods over any other coach.. this is not turning out well when the team actually needs to run plays. This is not turning well when decisions need to be make other than 'give LeBron the ball'. It's also true that LeBron played a role in many of the players who came to the Cavs and that these are not working out. He should not be the GM, he is a player and should have a decent amount of influence on where they are taking the franchise but ultimately it's a Front Office/GM decision.. Agreed. Still: the least you can expect from these guys is that they show some effort, some drive to want to win the games, the series and the NBA Championship. Tristan fights for Rebounds, but often it's only him against several guys from the opposing team..
 

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Looked like Bron was like fukk it coming out of that halftime. Who knows how the team will come out at home but he definitely didn’t care too much about this particular game at a certain point. Of course he isn’t the main issue here, but I hope whereever he goes next year, he’s ready to sacrifice certain aspects of low effort play that have hung with him for a few years now. I think Magic would hold him accountable at LAL, I think the Spurs would. Him @ Philly could either be a huge success or a complete shyt show. Whenever this year ends for him, I just hope dude is ready to reinvent
 

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I think the chemistry with lebron and cp3 will happen quicker than expected. Idk about harden but I think lebron off ball and his influence will be enough to help cp3 change that style of play. To some extend same with harden. I believe more ball movement will be come of that team and very less of ISOs. :patrice:As for the sixers, Embiid has too many health concerns and Bron been down that road. Granted CP3 is worrying but he’s more proven. Embiid came into even these playoffs with a injury. Ben Simmons has no jumper and probably won’t have one next season or a reliable one. I don’t think lebron has time for them to grow.
I also wonder how much a fan LeBron is of Embiid's personality.. some people like Skip Bayless say 'he could become the best player in the NBA' but those people need clicks to eat and ignore the key thing you already mentioned: injury prone. Simmons has potential but not when it matters (which is fine for a young player) but LeBron wants to catch up to MJ, not be MJ on the Wizards.

LeBron in motion and not too many ISO could be very interesting. I always felt like they had a way better system for LeBron to fit in in Miami with Spoel vs what they're doing in Cleveland, it's pure ISO basketball and high pick and rolls (thanks to his amazing passing it works sometimes).. not optimal
 

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I also wonder how much a fan LeBron is of Embiid's personality.. some people like Skip Bayless say 'he could become the best player in the NBA' but those people need clicks to eat and ignore the key thing you already mentioned: injury prone. Simmons has potential but not when it matters (which is fine for a young player) but LeBron wants to catch up to MJ, not be MJ on the Wizards.

LeBron in motion and not too many ISO could be very interesting. I always felt like they had a way better system for LeBron to fit in in Miami with Spoel vs what they're doing in Cleveland, it's pure ISO basketball and high pick and rolls (thanks to his amazing passing it works sometimes).. not optimal

Bron stans talkin' about joining the Sixers now I'm done :dead:
 

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What don’t y’all get about him not having a choice? What were is alternatives?
Korver. The only alternative to J.R. he needs because he's actually working to get free of the picks and shoots a more than acceptable FG% and isn't scared at all.. He's proven valuable, why go back to J.R. who has been completely invisible this series?
 
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