The "let's not take this shyt so seriously" AEW news & fukkery thread

[MenacingMonk]

That's were we disagree. For Mox's current run to happen, he had to convince TK he could "elevate" Darby more than anyone else by doing this horrible Death Riders angle. If Darby becomes champ before Mox, that means Tony wasn't convinced and who knows what Moxley is doing right now. It's whole new "what if" scenario.

There’s no way Mox would be lingering in upper midcard this long. He was already doing that when he held the Intl and NJ titles. He could have defeated Darby for the title back at World’s End. Plus if Darby won he would have been the fourth face in a row to hold the belt. Wouldn’t be surprised if they did Os/Mox at All In if they had Darby beat Danielson. They need a face to win the main event at their biggest show of the year.

 

[Jmare007]

Danielson was partly to blame because he viewed Mox as a viable guy to "put him on the shelf" basically.. If Danielson says "nah, let's just do Darby now" then I'm sure TK would have listened.

No question about it, he's probably the main guy to blame tbh, just off the strength of Tony never having the balls to say no to his favorites, it's on them to stop nonsense from happening

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

The thing about social media "views" and I say this about WWE all the time... is that it means nothing if that doesn't translate to the bottom line

Yes but it shows people are interested in it if week after week for like two months now it’s generating more views than anything else.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Yes but it shows people are interested in it if week after week for like two months now it’s generating more views than anything else.

I don't see them get live reactions compared to others so I would be careful using that as the barometer for whether it's working.. The world title scene is what is supposed to drive tickets and I haven't seen much of an increase there. The 'Dynamite' numbers are fine considering they don't even include 'Max'

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

Obviously not a statically valid sample, but in the Fightful Dynamite post show, SRS said they did a poll with over 15,000 responses and 60% of the respondents said they are watching AEW online and not TBS/TNT.

 

[BlaccSunrise]

Tony Khan needs to let the Hurt Syndicate take those trios belts from the Klan Riders.

We saw MVP get down in the ring last month, he needs some gold around his waist.

 

[TheAlbionist]

Danielson was partly to blame because he viewed Mox as a viable guy to "put him on the shelf" basically.. If Danielson says "nah, let's just do Darby now" then I'm sure TK would have listened.

Yep, this is pretty key tbh - pretty sure it came out that Mox was Danielson's pick to 'retire' him and TK was going to give Dragon whatever he wanted for that arc.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Yep, this is pretty key tbh - pretty sure it came out that Mox was Danielson's pick to 'retire' him and TK was going to give Dragon whatever he wanted for that arc.

Right but in my view it still doesn't excuse Khan from not pivoting. He just pivoted from MJF/Double J to MJF/Hangman pretty quickly so it's something he knows how to do...

 

[Jmare007]

Right but in my view it still doesn't excuse Khan from not pivoting. He just pivoted from MJF/Double J to MJF/Hangman pretty quickly so it's something he knows how to do...

I mean, Tony is always the biggest guilty in the sense that he's the one that calls the shot (hell, he still convinced Dragon to win the belt at Wembley) but considering how easily swayed he is by some talent, our only hope as fans is that wrestlers step up to stop the bullshyt. Danielson wanting to put his buddy Mox over fukked everything up for the AEW audience.

Wouldn't shock me if it was MJF who pushed for a pivot and Tony ok'd it. In the case of Death Riders, it's probably Mox wanting to keep trying to make this "big angle" work after he sold it to TK as such a huge thing for the company.

 

[TheAlbionist]

Right but in my view it still doesn't excuse Khan from not pivoting. He just pivoted from MJF/Double J to MJF/Hangman pretty quickly so it's something he knows how to do...

One of them is a mid-card angle that nothing else relies on, one is supposedly the main arc for this season of the show that's probably leading to a 'season finale' at All In... I can see why they'd have more resistance to pivoting something like that.

I hope they're going to add more as the next few months go on though - Ospreay teased getting involved but never did, Omega must have an opinion too.

Marina not making any sort of impact in the women's division is the biggest miss for me, but I still feel like it has some legs... I'm very aware I'm on my own in the IWC with this

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I agree with some of that but I mean the bottom line is when your roster has Swerve, Ospreay, Omega, MJF, Hangman, now Ricochet, Okada, there's so many options for the main event scene that it's wild to still be running the Death Riders thing

 

[TheAlbionist]

I agree with some of that but I mean the bottom line is when your roster has Swerve, Ospreay, Omega, MJF, Hangman, now Ricochet, Okada, there's so many options for the main event scene that it's wild to still be running the Death Riders thing

Agree tbh, but we're only talking 2 full PPVs before All In (Revolution and Dynasty) and then with any luck it's open season again.

If we're getting Hurt Syndicate reign of terror, Hangman/MJF, Swerve/Rico, Toni/Mariah and whatever else in the meantime I'm just not too bothered about where the world title belt is... I'm more concerned about the TV title not getting defended on the reg tbh.

 

[OneDeep]

Guessing now Nyla is out of a job

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

In AEW, Chris Jericho has feuded with several wrestlers, but some fans have taken issue with how these programs have played out. Whether it be Hook, Eddie Kingston, or his extended rivalry with Ricky Starks, many believe that Jericho does little to elevate his opponents. Some even argue that these wrestlers might have fared better if they had never worked with him at all.

The idea of talent being ‘sucked’ into feuds with Chris has been dubbed the ‘Jericho Vortex’ a term the Canadian filed to trademark for merchandise in April 2024. On the Insight podcast, Jericho fired back at the notion he’s dragged down talent.

“Name one. Name one person that got dragged down from working with me. Maybe afterwards they didn’t go higher, but that’s not up to me. I’m not in charge of booking the entire company.”

Jericho added that he can only do what is asked of him, and referenced AEW success stories like MJF and Sammy Guevara as proof he doesn’t drag down others. Today, fans can find Jericho leading the Learning Tree, which he cited as more evidence against the ‘vortex.’

“Big Bill and Bryan Keith have grown by leaps and bounds from working here with me… I definitely know what my intentions are, and it’s not to bury anybody. It’s to build as many people as I can.”

Jericho is confident that his intentions in AEW is to help others, no matter what some fans may believe. Ultimately, Jericho will continue to work with talent both fresh and established in AEW as one of the company’s leading stars.

 

[Jmare007]

Agree tbh, but we're only talking 2 full PPVs before All In (Revolution and Dynasty) and then with any luck it's open season again.

If we're getting Hurt Syndicate reign of terror, Hangman/MJF, Swerve/Rico, Toni/Mariah and whatever else in the meantime I'm just not too bothered about where the world title belt is... I'm more concerned about the TV title not getting defended on the reg tbh.

I think time is the biggest issue. I'm basically waiting for this Mox shyt to end to go back to watching live and following the product and not just watch hyped marches weeks after they happen.