The most talented nba players ever per position

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I'm going to be honest and I've said this since 2002-2003, Kobe is a more talented basketball player then Jordan. Now Jordan is a better athlete and a better on ball defender, but other then that there's nothing mike can do that kobe can't especially offensively. Everything else is close but Bryant has better handles, better footwork, and is a much better shooter, especially from long range. It's obvious when you watch them play, you can make the argument mike is a smarter player but not more talented, especially if we're talking strictly basketball skills where Kobe takes a backseat to no one in the history of this game The difference between these 2 is eras, teammates, and accolades, but never talent
Kobe had better footwork handles and long range jumpshot . That's it


Jordan was bigger faster stronger, could jump higher and played the game smarter
 

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Think Barkley is more talented than Duncan brehs:russ:


barkley was a better rebounder, better in the post (One of the greatest post players alongside Hakeem and Mchale), He was also a superior passer. obviously duncan was a better defender/rim protector and defensive ability has more to do with effort,athleticism, timing and coordination which aren't necessarily talent based. And all of this despite the huge height difference. what Barkley was able to do as an undersized forward speaks to the level of talent the man possessed. So put some respect on his name.
 
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barkley was a better rebounder, better in the post (One of the greatest post players alongside Hakeem and Mchale), He was also a superior passer. obviously duncan was a better defender/rim protector and defensive ability has more to do with effort,athleticism, timing and coordination which aren't necessarily talent based. And all of this despite the huge height difference. what Barkley was able to do as an undersized forward speaks to the level of talent the man possessed. So put some respect on his name.

Barkley wasn't better in no post, maybe more aggressive and powerful down low...Duncan had way better post mechanics and footwork.

Rebounds I'll give it to Barkley tho
 

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Talent and skill aren't the same thing. Skill comes from repetition.

That's why people say " This player had all the talent but just couldn't put it together"
Nope wrong. They are the same. Why hasn't Dwight howard developed a consistent post play and midrange/shooting since he's been in the league. despite working with Hakeem and other HOF Centres. is it that he doesn't practice them or He simply doesn't have that "skill" in his locker? which one is more probable explanation.

Why can't rondo and rubio shoot to save their lives? Are they the laziest players in the nba or again they lack that particular "skill". Does kyrie Irving practice/work harder on his ball handling than anyone else in the league the reason he has arguably the best handles? Are you telling me any random bum in the gym, with enough hard work can make it to the league and become a generational player like MJ, magic, lebron etc.

Talent and skill are the same. It just takes hard work to fully horn the skills you already posses. hence the phrase, "reach your full potential" You either have it or you don't.
 

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Nope wrong. They are the same. Why hasn't Dwight howard developed a consistent post play and midrange/shooting since he's been in the league. despite working with Hakeem and other HOF Centres. is it that he doesn't practice them or He simply doesn't have that "skill" in his locker?

Why can't rondo and rubio shoot to save their lives? Are they the laziest players in the nba or again they lack that particular "skill". Does kyrie Irving practice/work harder on his ball handling than anyone else in the league the reason he has arguably the best handles? Are you telling me if any random bum in the gym, with enough hard work can make it to the league and become a generational player like MJ, magic, lebron etc.

Talent and skill are the same. It just takes hard work to fully horn the skills you already posses. hence the phrase, "reach your full potential" You either have it or you don't.

Mike Conley was a bad 3pt shooter in college. Now he is one of the top 3pt shooting pg in the league.

Any random bum in the gym doesn't have the talent to become good enough. But he can become skilled at whatever talent he possess. no matter how small it is.
 

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Mike Conley was a bad 3pt shooter in college. Now he is one of the top 3pt shooting pg in the league.

Any random bum in the gym doesn't have the talent to become good enough. But he can become skilled at whatever talent he possess. no matter how small it is.

Just because Conley was bad at 3 point shooting doesn't mean he lacked the skill, it just meant he needed more time and practice to horn his 3 point shooting skill, which he did. There's a reason why nba players typically get better in their prime. There might be some exceptions here and there like with anything in life but generally speaking, hardwork is not enough to excel at any particular skill based endeavour without the talent/skill.
 

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Just because Conley was bad at 3 point shooting doesn't mean he lacked the skill, it just meant he needed more time and practice to horn his 3 point shooting skill, which he did. There's a reason why nba players typically get better in their prime. There might be some exceptions here and there like with anything in life but generally speaking, hardwork is not enough to excel at any particular skill based endeavour without the talent/skill.

I agree in the sense that hard work is not enough to excel at any particular skill that is physical.

Here's an example of skill vs talent.
Jimmy Hendrix is a very talented guitar player. Plenty of people can play the songs he created now. Do they have the same talent he had? No way , but by repetition they became skilled enough to play his songs.

Or the kid in school who is naturally talented at math. With repetition you can become as skilled as that kid but you will never be as talented as him. Talent is something that comes naturally, skill is acquired.
 

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As the title states, purely off talent alone and nothing else (i.e career and individual achievement is irrelevant here) . It's a proven fact that talent on its own is not often enough: hard work, genetics, luck with injuries, bb iq, team mates etc plays bigger role in how successful a player becomes in any sport for that matter.

So who are the most talented point guard, shooting guard, power forward, small forward and centre in nba history in your opinion.

Mine is

SG: Jordan
PG: penny Hardaway
PF:Charles Barkley
SF: Durant
C: Hakeem
A lot of that stuff can be considered part of talent though, depending on how you want to define it.
 
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