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The NBA's supermax contract is working ... just not like fans expected
The NBA's supermax contract is working ... just not like fans expected

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TIM BONTEMPSESPN10:33 PM ET11 Minute Read

Scott: Kemba is player most affected by All-NBA team
Byron Scott explains why Kemba Walker being selected All-NBA third team drastically increases how much he can get on a supermax contract from the Hornets.
Editor's note: This story was updated after the All-NBA teams were announced Thursday afternoon.


THE MILWAUKEE BUCKS are on the clock.

While things seem great in Milwaukee at the moment, greatness is fragile. Yes, the Bucks posted the best record in the NBA this season, are set to play a pivotal Game 5 in the Eastern Conference finals Thursday night, and have a young team that looks like it can be a contender for years to come.

But all of that remains contingent on one thing: convincing Giannis Antetokounmpo, arguably the best player in the world, to remain in Milwaukee.

This is precisely the situation that spurred the NBA and the players' union to create the designated veteran contract extension -- colloquially known as the "supermax" -- two years ago. The new option allows front offices to reward their superstars earlier in their careers, while helping teams avoid the fate of the Oklahoma City Thunder(Kevin Durant) or Portland Trail Blazers (LaMarcus Aldridge), who lost superstars for nothing in free agency.

When 2020 free agency begins, Antetokounmpo still will have one year remaining on his current contract. While no other team will be able to sign him, the Bucks can present Antetokounmpo with a five-year contract extension that is expected to be worth a league-record $247 million, according to projections by Bobby Marks, ESPN's front office insider. Whether he takes it or not will represent the biggest test to the new system.

To date, four players have signed supermax contract extensions: Stephen Curry, James Harden, Russell Westbrook and John Wall. The Curry and Harden deals have worked out splendidly for both sides. Oklahoma City's ability to build around Westbrook remains unclear, while Wall's contract has become regarded as the worst in the league even before it goes into effect.

Meanwhile, Anthony Davis was the only player eligible to sign a supermax extension this summer until the All-NBA teams were announced Thursday afternoon. Damian Lillard and Kemba Walker -- and Rudy Gobert in 2020 -- are now also eligible.

How they, and their teams, react will be the latest test of the supermax extension. Two years after its creation, something designed to be an answer has instead created more questions.

"I mean, when you've got guys that know their talent, know their skill set, and know what they're capable of from a money standpoint, you can't really entice somebody with a bag," Paul George told ESPN earlier this season, two years removed from bypassing his own chance to chase a supermax deal. "You know what I mean?"

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Anthony Davis would be eligible to sign a supermax contract this summer if he decides to stay with the Pelicans.Tyler Kaufman/AP Photo
VERY FEW PLAYERS actually have the opportunity to sign one of these massive five-year deals. To qualify for a supermax extension, a player has to be with the team he was on at the end of his rookie contract and entering his eighth, ninth or 10th year in the NBA. He also needs to have proved he's one of the most elite players in the league, in one of three ways:

• Winning MVP in any of the three most recent seasons.

• Winning Defensive Player of the Year in the most recent season or in the prior two seasons.

• Being named to an All-NBA team in the most recent season or in the prior two seasons.

Still, there is one other factor that isn't officially listed among the rules for supermax qualification, but it might be the most important of all: The player has to want to re-sign with his current team, and the team has to want to give out the contract. Because, while the supermax extension was designed to help stem the tide of superstar player movement, it quickly became clear that wouldn't be the case.

"Everybody has their own agenda, and their own motive," George told ESPN. "For me, I just wanted to play and have a chance to win a championship. I didn't care about the money. For me, it was about where can I get a good opportunity to win, and I just felt that window was closing in Indiana, and I moved on."

The biggest benefit to the rule for players is that it gives them yet another bargaining chip. The NBA has always been a star-driven league. Having one of the handful of top players in the league in a given year often is the difference between winning and losing.

It stands to reason, then, that those players will be demanding in exacting any and all answers they want about how an organization is going about its business before deciding to commit long term -- no matter how much extra money is on the table.

After all, the difference could be between making $191 million over four years on a supermax extension or getting traded and inking a four-year deal worth $157.1 million two years from now. The total dollars are both unfathomable amounts of money.

"Money's not the problem," Washington Wizards guard Bradley Beal told ESPN before the end of the regular season.

Beal would have been eligible for a supermax if he had made an All-NBA team, but he fell short, as did Golden State's Klay Thompson.

When Wall was deciding whether to sign the supermax deal Washington offered in the summer of 2017, he said he wanted to see what the team did in the offseason first. In mid-July, Wall made up his mind and signed the extension. George and Kawhi Leonard decided they didn't want to commit to the supermax deals and instead forced their way out.

Both options are still, at least technically, in play for Davis. The New Orleans Pelicansstar is eligible to sign a five-year extension worth $235.5 million on July 1 -- an extension that, if he's still on the Pelicans by then, assuredly will be offered by them. Davis issued a trade demand in January -- one that his camp insists still stands.

David Griffin, the Pelicans' newly installed executive vice president of basketball operations, has insisted he is going to do everything in his power to convince Davis that he should reconsider his position on New Orleans. Griffin's argument got a boost when the Pelicans jumped to the top of the NBA draft order after winning the NBA draft lottery, landing the chance to select Zion Williamson next month.

Still, the power is in Davis' hands. If he continues to say that he has no interest in signing the supermax extension, New Orleans could call his bluff. But that would be an incredibly risky hand to play -- especially considering there will be any number of teams lining up to secure Davis' services if he is put on the trade block this summer.

It is that power, despite the immense dollars at stake, that still allows the players to dictate, in many cases, how these negotiations go.

"I mean, the players that are eligible, frankly, are players that are going to get paid, and they're going to have any number of alternatives," Michele Roberts, executive director of the National Basketball Players Association, told ESPN. "It hasn't hurt them. It was something that they were able to secure and they were interested in getting it, and it was going to be a tremendous advantage in terms of just the amount of money.

"But I still don't see a downside. The only downside is to the extent that people absolutely believed that it was a slam-dunk way to keep their guys. And it just isn't. And if they doubted it, they can now take a look at Anthony [Davis] and see, 'Oh, wow, there is no way.'"

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Jimmy Butler was traded by the Bulls before they had to make a decision on whether to offer him a supermax extension.Bill Streicher-USA TODAY Sports
WHEN THE LATEST collective bargaining agreement was finalized in December 2016, DeMarcus Cousins and Jimmy Butler were well on their way to qualifying for the supermax extensions, which would've kept them with their current teams into the next decade. At the time, both players were amenable to signing such a deal, per sources, and locking in a massive amount of money for years to come.

Instead, the Sacramento Kings and Chicago Bulls opted to trade their cornerstones well before they hit free agency, opting for young players and draft picks over signing a current star to a massive contract as they move into their early-to-mid 30s.

This is the calculus teams have to make. It's exactly what the league wanted franchises to have the power to do.

"Part of the goal in 'early-ing' up the discussion was that those players then wouldn't reach the end of their contracts and, frankly, surprise teams by then announcing they were leaving," NBA commissioner Adam Silver said at his annual news conference last month. "The fact that a player left the market doesn't mean it was a failure, because at least in those cases the teams got value."

How much value they truly got is still up for debate. The eventual hauls for Cousins (Buddy Hield, Justin Jackson and Harry Giles) and Butler (Lauri Markkanen, Zach LaVine and Kris Dunn) were mixed, with none of the players acquired likely to be as good as the ones they were dealt for. After being widely criticized at the time of the deal, the Pacers turned out to have done well in dealing George for Victor Oladipoand Domantas Sabonis. Even then -- especially after Oladipo suffered a torn quad tendon this season -- it's hard to see that as equal value back for an MVP candidate.

For the San Antonio Spurs, trading Leonard last summer was complicated by his own injury history, forcing them to move both Leonard and Danny Green -- who have become key members of the Toronto Raptors' deep playoff run -- for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and what became the No. 29 pick in this year's draft. Anyone who has watched these playoffs and seen how Leonard has performed will know the Spurs would much rather have just kept him in the fold. While the Pelicans will have far less difficulty getting value for Davis this summer, the prospect of trading him -- if it comes to pass -- would be equally painful for them.

Conversely, committing to a player early can go just as wrong as moving on from him. The supermax extension Wall signed in 2017 hasn't even kicked in yet. Now the Wizards, already a lottery team, are committed to a player coming off a torn Achilles tendon for another four years at a total of $170 million, drastically limiting their flexibility to improve their roster.

 

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The supermax contract doesn't work AT ALL...

Boogie could have became eligible...traded...

Paul George could have became eligible...traded...

Jimmy Butler could have became eligible...traded...

Kawhi WAS eligible...traded...

Anthony Davis WAS eligible...traded

KD was eligible...signed somewhere else on a 1 year deal...

Wall signed it and got hurt...just about single handily sunk their cap...hilariously enough the wizards might end up in a position to where they have to do the same thing all over again with Beal...

Portland as designed is never going to be a serious title contender...they got lucky in getting a injured OKC team in the first round and a we just made the playoffs for the first time in forever team in the second round...as soon as they played a healthy perennial playoff team...swept...and this summer they are pretty much going to have to pay Dame the supermax effectively ruining their cap for the rest of his career...hilariously enough signing Dame is going to force them into keeping their own overpaid players because they will be so far over the cap that the only other option they will have is to sign guys for the minimum...

OKC...one of the highest payrolls in the nba this year AND next year...nothing but first round exits to show for it...

So the overwhelming majority of players who were eligible or could be eligible got traded...got it and got hurt...flat out walked away and signed somewhere else...or stayed and destroyed their teams cap to the point it was almost impossible to improve the team outside of internal development...

So how exactly is this helping small market teams?
 

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The supermax contract doesn't work AT ALL...

Boogie could have became eligible...traded...

Paul George could have became eligible...traded...

Jimmy Butler could have became eligible...traded...

Kawhi WAS eligible...traded...

Anthony Davis WAS eligible...traded

KD was eligible...signed somewhere else on a 1 year deal...

Wall signed it and got hurt...just about single handily sunk their cap...hilariously enough the wizards might end up in a position to where they have to do the same thing all over again with Beal...

Portland as designed is never going to be a serious title contender...they got lucky in getting a injured OKC team in the first round and a we just made the playoffs for the first time in forever team in the second round...as soon as they played a healthy perennial playoff team...swept...and this summer they are pretty much going to have to pay Dame the supermax effectively ruining their cap for the rest of his career...hilariously enough signing Dame is going to force them into keeping their own overpaid players because they will be so far over the cap that the only other option they will have is to sign guys for the minimum...

OKC...one of the highest payrolls in the nba this year AND next year...nothing but first round exits to show for it...

So the overwhelming majority of players who were eligible or could be eligible got traded...got it and got hurt...flat out walked away and signed somewhere else...or stayed and destroyed their teams cap to the point it was almost impossible to improve the team outside of internal development...

So how exactly is this helping small market teams?

BOOGIE IS NOT A SUPERMAX PLAYER
AND THATS WHY HE WAS TRADED.
SAC JUST HAD THERE BEST SEASON
IN A 13 YEARS...

PG AND JIMMY ARE NOT SUPER MAX PLAYERS
AND JIMMY WAS NEVER GONNA BE ELGIBLE FOR THE SUPERMAX IN MINNY.
INDY IS IN A BETTER POSITION NOW
THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY TRADED PG.

AD LET KLUTCH SPORTS MANIPULATE HIM
AND HE'LL LOOK LIKE A BIGGER FOOL
NEXT OFF SEASON

THE SUPERMAX DIDNT EXIST WHEN KD LEFT OKC...
IT WAS CREATED BECAUSE KD LEFT.

SO THAT ONLY LEAVES US WITH KAWHI
WHO WANTED OUT OF SAS DUE TO PERSONAL REASONS THAT WERE NEVER DISCLOSED.
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BOOGIE IS NOT A SUPERMAX PLAYER
AND THATS WHY HE WAS TRADED.
SAC JUST HAD THERE BEST SEASON
IN A 13 YEARS...

PG AND JIMMY ARE NOT SUPER MAX PLAYERS
AND JIMMY WAS NEVER GONNA BE ELGIBLE FOR THE SUPERMAX IN MINNY.
INDY IS IN A BETTER POSITION
THEY WERE IN WHE THEY TRADED PG.

AD LET KLUTCH SPORTS MANIPULATE HIM.

THE SUPERMAX DIDNT EXIST WHEN KD LEFT OKC...
IT WAS CREATED BECAUSE KD LEFT.

SO THAT ONLY LEAVES US WITH KAWHI
WHO WANTED OUT OF SAS DUE TO PERSONAL REASONS THAT WERE NEVER DISCLOSED.
:devil:
:evil:



Who's a supermax player and who is not a supermax player doesn't matter...

What matters is how many times that guy makes an all nba team or wins mvp and how many years he is in the league...

As far as Jimmy...not talking about Minny...I am talking about how his last year in Chicago he made all nba 3rd team...the next year was the last year of his deal...if he made an all nba team that year...he would be eligible...since he was already 5 or 6 years in the league by then...

It's not about who deserves it and who doesn't...once a guy makes an all nba team in his first 6 years in the league the clock is ticking...if he wins mvp or defensive player of the year the clock is ticked...

As for Kawhi...the whole "he wanted out" thing doesn't really make sense...he wanted out but the only team he wanted to go to was the Lakers? When people want out of someplace they want out and they don't care where they go...then their were reports that he was not happy about being traded to Toronto...remember he kept blowing off his media day when he first got there...now you hear reports that Lebron is recruiting him to the lakers...but it thought he wanted to go to the lakers in the first place...so why is Lebron recruiting a guy to play in a place that it was reported he wanted to play in in the first place? You know a situation where people say "i want to leave but i only want to go to this one place"...a situation where they might not actually want to leave...all real evidence points to the whole Kawhi thing being a negotiation tactic gone wrong...
 

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Who's a supermax player and who is not a supermax player doesn't matter...

What matters is how many times that guy makes an all nba team or wins mvp and how many years he is in the league...

As far as Jimmy...not talking about Minny...I am talking about how his last year in Chicago he made all nba 3rd team...the next year was the last year of his deal...if he made an all nba team that year...he would be eligible...since he was already 5 or 6 years in the league by then...

It's not about who deserves it and who doesn't...once a guy makes an all nba team in his first 6 years in the league the clock is ticking...if he wins mvp or defensive player of the year the clock is ticked...

As for Kawhi...the whole "he wanted out" thing doesn't really make sense...he wanted out but the only team he wanted to go to was the Lakers? When people want out of someplace they want out and they don't care where they go...then their were reports that he was not happy about being traded to Toronto...remember he kept blowing off his media day when he first got there...now you hear reports that Lebron is recruiting him to the lakers...but it thought he wanted to go to the lakers in the first place...so why is Lebron recruiting a guy to play in a place that it was reported he wanted to play in in the first place? You know a situation where people say "i want to leave but i only want to go to this one place"...a situation where they might not actually want to leave...all real evidence points to the whole Kawhi thing being a negotiation tactic gone wrong...

1. JIMMY HAD 2 YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT
WHEN THE BULLS TRADED HIM.

2. PG MISSED OUT ON THE SUPER MAX
HIS LAST YR IN INDY, THEN DEMANDED A TRADE.

3. GUYS LIKE BOOGIE AND KAT
SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH SUPER MAX CONTRACTS ON BOTTOM DWELLING TEAMS.

WHATS THE POINT OF MAXING OUT BOOGIE
WHILE BEING IN THE LOTTERY EVERY YR?
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THE SUPER MAX IS DESIGNED
TO HELP SMALL MARKET TEAMS LIKE THE BUCKS
AND THE HORNETS KEEP THEIR STARS...

NOT GIVE STAT PADDING nikkaS ON BUM TEAMS
OR GIVE 3RD OPTION nikkaS 220 MILLION.
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When there 30 teams in the league, thats what half the league will be left with, overpaying 3rs options
 

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The supermax contract doesn't work AT ALL...

Boogie could have became eligible...traded...

Paul George could have became eligible...traded...

Jimmy Butler could have became eligible...traded...

Kawhi WAS eligible...traded...

Anthony Davis WAS eligible...traded

KD was eligible...signed somewhere else on a 1 year deal...

Wall signed it and got hurt...just about single handily sunk their cap...hilariously enough the wizards might end up in a position to where they have to do the same thing all over again with Beal...

Portland as designed is never going to be a serious title contender...they got lucky in getting a injured OKC team in the first round and a we just made the playoffs for the first time in forever team in the second round...as soon as they played a healthy perennial playoff team...swept...and this summer they are pretty much going to have to pay Dame the supermax effectively ruining their cap for the rest of his career...hilariously enough signing Dame is going to force them into keeping their own overpaid players because they will be so far over the cap that the only other option they will have is to sign guys for the minimum...

OKC...one of the highest payrolls in the nba this year AND next year...nothing but first round exits to show for it...

So the overwhelming majority of players who were eligible or could be eligible got traded...got it and got hurt...flat out walked away and signed somewhere else...or stayed and destroyed their teams cap to the point it was almost impossible to improve the team outside of internal development...

So how exactly is this helping small market teams?
In theory it's supposed to. Now, I don't see any of those situations hurt BECAUSE guys got the Supermax, and part of that is because that money is otherwise not going towards anything else even if it were available. If you were eligible for a supermax, you were already making max money and taking up a big chunk of your team's cap. A supermax doesn't cost teams cap space. It may be the difference between paying the lux or not which teams are averse to doing.

Given that some of these teams are small market franchises, it's not championship or doom to these teams. It may reach a point where you say a team ran its course, but otherwise, OKC fans are really happy contending and knowing they have a guy they can call their own for the overwhelming majority of his career in Westbrook, same with Lillard in Portland. It beats having a revolving door of guys you can't get attached to because you know they're leaving soon enough.

The NBA is a league where contract negotiating doesn't really happen. You know what the offer will be before you make a decision. That hurts teams more than anything, because when you deal with anyone close to all-star caliber status, they're either a max or not, a MLE or not.
 

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1. JIMMY HAD 2 YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT
WHEN THE BULLS TRADED HIM.

2. PG MISSED OUT ON THE SUPER MAX
HIS LAST YR IN INDY, THEN DEMANDED A TRADE.

3. GUYS LIKE BOOGIE AND KAT
SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH SUPER MAX CONTRACTS ON BOTTOM DWELLING TEAMS.

WHATS THE POINT OF MAXING OUT BOOGIE
WHILE BEING IN THE LOTTERY EVERY YR?
:devil:
:evil:


Right these guys are not worth it...but that doesn't have anything to do with them putting them in position to earn it...

Is Dame worth a supermax contract? Cause Portland hasn't ever come close to winning a title with him...and here they are staring down the barrell of having to pay him a supermax...or they could just not pay him the supermax and run the risk of dame feelings getting hurt and asking for a trade...or just outright leaving when his contract is up...

Is Kemba Walker worth the supermax? The hornets don't consistently make the playoffs with him already on the team...but here they are staring down the barell of having to pay him a supermax...or they could just not pay him and run the risk of Kemba feelings getting hurt and flat out leaving...

Rudy fukking Gobert is eligible for a supermax:mjlol:...Utah could just not pay it...but then they run the risk of having the guy who anchors their defense...feelings get hurt and then he bounces...

This is the exact problem with the supermax...all of a sudden Utah front office got to sit in a room and have a discussion about are they going to make Rudy fukking Gobert one of the 10 highest paid players in the nba...
 

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BOOGIE IS NOT A SUPERMAX PLAYER
AND THATS WHY HE WAS TRADED.
SAC JUST HAD THERE BEST SEASON
IN A 13 YEARS...

PG AND JIMMY ARE NOT SUPER MAX PLAYERS
AND JIMMY WAS NEVER GONNA BE ELGIBLE FOR THE SUPERMAX IN MINNY.
INDY IS IN A BETTER POSITION NOW
THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY TRADED PG.

AD LET KLUTCH SPORTS MANIPULATE HIM
AND HE'LL LOOK LIKE A BIGGER FOOL
NEXT OFF SEASON

THE SUPERMAX DIDNT EXIST WHEN KD LEFT OKC...
IT WAS CREATED BECAUSE KD LEFT.

SO THAT ONLY LEAVES US WITH KAWHI
WHO WANTED OUT OF SAS DUE TO PERSONAL REASONS THAT WERE NEVER DISCLOSED.
:devil:
:evil:


Where's AD's dad at to slap some sense into his son? :hhh:
 

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Right these guys are not worth it...but that doesn't have anything to do with them putting them in position to earn it...

Is Dame worth a supermax contract? Cause Portland hasn't ever come close to winning a title with him...and here they are staring down the barrell of having to pay him a supermax...or they could just not pay him the supermax and run the risk of dame feelings getting hurt and asking for a trade...or just outright leaving when his contract is up...

Is Kemba Walker worth the supermax? The hornets don't consistently make the playoffs with him already on the team...but here they are staring down the barell of having to pay him a supermax...or they could just not pay him and run the risk of Kemba feelings getting hurt and flat out leaving...

Rudy fukking Gobert is eligible for a supermax:mjlol:...Utah could just not pay it...but then they run the risk of having the guy who anchors their defense...feelings get hurt and then he bounces...

This is the exact problem with the supermax...all of a sudden Utah front office got to sit in a room and have a discussion about are they going to make Rudy fukking Gobert one of the 10 highest paid players in the nba...


DAME HAD 2 YRS LEFT ON HIS DEAL.
THE OWNER REWARDED HIM FOR A WCF BERTH.

KEMBA IS WORTH IT TO CHARLOTTE
BECAUSE THEY WONT HAVE MUCH SPACE THIS SUMMER IF HE LEAVES.

RUDY IS WORTH IT TO UTAH.
HES 50% OF THE REASON
THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
BY ANCHORING TOP 2 DEFENSES EVERY YEAR.

THE JAZZ ARE JUST HAPPY MAKING THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER SIGN THERE.
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In theory it's supposed to. Now, I don't see any of those situations hurt BECAUSE guys got the Supermax, and part of that is because that money is otherwise not going towards anything else even if it were available. If you were eligible for a supermax, you were already making max money and taking up a big chunk of your team's cap. A supermax doesn't cost teams cap space. It may be the difference between paying the lux or not which teams are averse to doing.

Given that some of these teams are small market franchises, it's not championship or doom to these teams. It may reach a point where you say a team ran its course, but otherwise, OKC fans are really happy contending and knowing they have a guy they can call their own for the overwhelming majority of his career in Westbrook, same with Lillard in Portland. It beats having a revolving door of guys you can't get attached to because you know they're leaving soon enough.

The NBA is a league where contract negotiating doesn't really happen. You know what the offer will be before you make a decision. That hurts teams more than anything, because when you deal with anyone close to all-star caliber status, they're either a max or not, a MLE or not.


Which is the crux of the problem...because what can you not do when you over the luxury tax? Offer any contract other than MLE or the league minimum...

So all of a sudden...your choices are extremely limited...cause it's either sign mo harkless to another dumb deal...because you can go over the cap to sign your own guys...and you are already over the cap...or you let mo harkless walk...but since you already over the cap...you can only replace him with a guy who will take a minimum salary...who is going to be a guy not as good as mo harkless...

It also is a real financial difference...30 % of the cap for a regular max vs 35% of the cap of a supermax...that is the reason you see stuff like "it just cost this guy X amount of millions" because that guy is losing out on an additional 5% of the salary cap every year for 5 years if he doesn't get the supermax...or at least that is how players view it...realistically they aren't missing out on anything because the supermax didn't exist before...so it is just really extra money the player was never going to make before...but you won't convince players of this...and you sure as shyt won't convince agents of this...who are also seeing a big increase in money because of the supermax...

That extra 5 percent every year...that is the difference between offering a role player 10 million a year and he says yes...or only being able to offer 6 million a year and he says no...

Now the fix for this is easy...the player gets the actual extra 5%...you just don't count it against the cap...so the cap hit stays at 30%...so the team is happy because the supermax has no effect on their salary cap since it is treated like a regular max...and the player is happy cause he gets that extra money...i have no idea why the supermax was not implemented in that way in the first place...
 
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