The NBA's supermax contract is working ... just not like fans expected

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Wemby goes down and Mobley wins DPOTY. Now the Cavs have to pay him more because the player that was gonna win it got injured. The solution is to have the extra money these players earn not count against the team cap.

Mobley made All NBA team so he would have qualified for it anyways even if he didn't win DPOY. The Grizzles and

I've mentioned it before, but the solution to the problem is to do the bonus amount by All NBA tier level and how often the player qualifies for it. An All NBA third team player shouldn't qualify for the same dollar amount bonus as All NBA First Team. It also prevents a situation where a player has a one off year in where they qualify for the max by making All NBA.

 

[AJtheOne]

Silver continues to ruin the league . Punk bytch always trying to cater to whiny small Market owners, fans who don’t know what they want and lame ass analyst/talkin heads.

Player movement is still going to be high cuz these cheap ass owners are not trying to pay any of these guys nor that tax apron.

So nothing will change, except that the players won’t be in control, the owners will. Lowkey that was their goal in the first place

 

[Kinguno]

All of the little rules from the bird rules, rose rule, the 65 game min requirement, and the second apron is just to spread the money aka the players around

I think about the Master P quote “if they are willing to offer me ten million how much am I really worth”

Klay Thompson lost 30 million on his next contract because he didn’t make an all NBA Team that was then used against him to pay him less.

Anytime a guy gets to a certain number the league tries to lowball them or force them to renegotiate their contracts an example of this is Westbrook who used to be top ten in pay but this season was literally 294th. Contract Buyouts are a scam I would never give up money like that or sign for less. The owners are multibillionaires.

 

[duckbutta]

J Will made all nba 3rd team primarily because of how good the Thunder team is not because of how good he actually is and now the Thunder could owe him as much as 296 million on his next contract.

Second and third options getting 300 million dollars right after they rookie contracts

Mobley won DPOY literally only cause Wemby got hurt, which triggers the rose rule in his newly signed contract, which now means instead of making 25% of the cap he will now make 30% of the cap, all because he won an award he never should have even been a conversation in.

Wemby getting hurt straight up cost the cavs around 45 million dollars over 5 years

NBA player union the goat player union it aint even close

J Will going from a rookie contract to making more than Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Dak Prescott because he made 1 all pro team

And all they need to do to fix it is to just not count the supermax part toward the teams cap. Just count it as a regular max but make sure the player gets played and the team gets rewarded for drafting and training / teaching the player to be this good in the first place. But we know they want.

Chet linking up with Wemby and Harper in 2027 cause OKC can't afford him paying SGA and JWill over 700 million dollars

 

[The God Poster]

J Will made all nba 3rd team primarily because of how good the Thunder team is not because of how good he actually is and now the Thunder could owe him as much as 296 million on his next contract.

Second and third options getting 300 million dollars right after they rookie contracts

Mobley won DPOY literally only cause Wemby got hurt, which triggers the rose rule in his newly signed contract, which now means instead of making 25% of the cap he will now make 30% of the cap, all because he won an award he never should have even been a conversation in.

Wemby getting hurt straight up cost the cavs around 45 million dollars over 5 years

NBA player union the goat player union it aint even close

J Will going from a rookie contract to making more than Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Dak Prescott because he made 1 all pro team

And all they need to do to fix it is to just not count the supermax part toward the teams cap. Just count it as a regular max but make sure the player gets played and the team gets rewarded for drafting and training / teaching the player to be this good in the first place. But we know they want.

Chet linking up with Wemby and Harper in 2027 cause OKC can't afford him paying SGA and JWill over 700 million dollars

lol Jwill going to be odd man out when they have have to choose him or Chet

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

J Will made all nba 3rd team primarily because of how good the Thunder team is not because of how good he actually is and now the Thunder could owe him as much as 296 million on his next contract.

Second and third options getting 300 million dollars right after they rookie contracts

Mobley won DPOY literally only cause Wemby got hurt, which triggers the rose rule in his newly signed contract, which now means instead of making 25% of the cap he will now make 30% of the cap, all because he won an award he never should have even been a conversation in.

Wemby getting hurt straight up cost the cavs around 45 million dollars over 5 years

NBA player union the goat player union it aint even close

J Will going from a rookie contract to making more than Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Dak Prescott because he made 1 all pro team

And all they need to do to fix it is to just not count the supermax part toward the teams cap. Just count it as a regular max but make sure the player gets played and the team gets rewarded for drafting and training / teaching the player to be this good in the first place. But we know they want.

Chet linking up with Wemby and Harper in 2027 cause OKC can't afford him paying SGA and JWill over 700 million dollars

He would have qualified for it anyways by making All NBA Team even if he didn’t win it. He also finished 2nd in voting a few years ago, so it wasn't like he was far away from winning one.

Technically, Mobley did the Spurs and Memphis a favor as Wemby and JJJ would have put them in the same bind as well. They actually will be as soon as next season assuming he stays healthy.

 

[duckbutta]

lol Jwill going to be odd man out when they have have to choose him or Chet

Probably the other way around. He has already qualified for a super max, chet hasn't.

Would be wild for OKC to say we not going to pay you the supermax we going to wait to give it to a player who hasn't even qualified for it yet.

If that's the case they should just start taking trade offers on him right now.

 

[duckbutta]

He would have qualified for it anyways by making All NBA Team even if he didn’t win it. He also finished 2nd in voting a few years ago, so it wasn't like he was far away from winning one.

Technically, Mobley did the Spurs and Memphis a favor as Wemby and JJJ would have put them in the same bind as well. They actually will be as soon as next season assuming he stays healthy.

Wemby is going to win DPOY as soon as he plays 65 games in a season, which he is likely to do this season or next season. Long as he does it on his rookie contract it won't matter.

Your right about the all nba team triggering the rose rule provision. Thought it was only MVP or DPOY that could trigger it. That's even worse for teams since guys can make an all nba team just by playing 66 games and having a player who should have made it over them play 64 games.

 

[SchoolboyC]

The fact that teams benefit more from their player not making an All-NBA team, like for example Memphis with JJJ, speaks to how the system is flawed

Max contracts shouldn’t even exist honestly. NBA has far too many rules designed to protect cheap owners

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Wemby is going to win DPOY as soon as he plays 65 games in a season, which he is likely to do this season or next season. Long as he does it on his rookie contract it won't matter.

Your right about the all nba team triggering the rose rule provision. Thought it was only MVP or DPOY that could trigger it. That's even worse for teams since guys can make an all nba team just by playing 66 games and having a player who should have made it over them play 64 games.

Correct. Now in the case of situations like of young players like Mobley, Cade, Ant, Haliburton or even this upcoming situation with JWill, does the extra cap space outweigh the team seeing actually development from those players by making the All NBA Team. I'd say yes especially considering you had people questioning whether Cade, Mobley or even JWill deserve those contracts in the first place.

I still think it's fukked that Luka lost out on the supermax by being traded eventhough he qualified for it more than anyone else with being a perenial first Team All NBA player before this season due to injury. They have to fix that when the next deal comes around you're supposed to and should be rewarded for making All NBA Team more than the others.

For him it didn't even matter in the end.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The fact that teams benefit more from their player not making an All-NBA team, like for example Memphis with JJJ, speaks to how the system is flawed

Max contracts shouldn’t even exist honestly. NBA has far too many rules designed to protect cheap owners

It’s fine that they exist. They just need to make it even more difficult to qualify for them.

Fix the cutoff date for it as well so you don't have another PG situation of getting 4 years max at age 34.

 

[The God Poster]

It’s fine that they exist. They just need to make it even more difficult to qualify for them.

Fix the cutoff date for it as well so you don't have another PG situation of getting 4 years max at age 34.

Penalizing players who perform well at an advanced age isn’t the move either

As breh said stop covering for cheap owners

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Penalizing players who perform well at an advanced age isn’t the move either

As breh said stop covering for cheap owners

It already exists though with the over 38 rule. Max contracts should be tweaked for everybody.

The max should only be given to First Team All NBA players and Second and Third team should get less than.

You'd still be rewarding players, but also helping to prevent situations like what's taking place now.

You're not going to stop cheap owners from happening as that shyt is a business like any other venture.

Everyone agreed to the new CBA, but didn't tweak everything around it to make up for the penalties.

 

[CHICAGO]

Max contracts shouldn’t even exist honestly. NBA has far too many rules designed to protect cheap owners

THE PLAYERS UNION NEGOTIATED THAT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS YALL
SAY PROTECT THE OWNERS
IS shyt THE PLAYERS UNION
LOBBIED FOR.

IF PRIME LEBRON
CAN MAKE 100MS PER YEAR
NOBODY ELSE ON THE TEAM CAN
GET PAID DUE TO THE SALARY CAP...

SIMILAR TO QBS HOGGING
THE SALARY CAP SPACE IN THE NFL.

THE UNION PUT A CAP
ON HOW MUCH PLAYERS CAN MAKE
SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN EAT


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[SchoolboyC]

THE PLAYERS UNION NEGOTIATED THAT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS YALL
SAY PROTECT THE OWNERS
IS shyt THE PLAYERS UNION
LOBBIED FOR.

IF PRIME LEBRON
CAN MAKE 100MS PER YEAR
NOBODY ELSE ON THE TEAM CAN
GET PAID DUE TO THE SALARY CAP...

SIMILAR TO QBS HOGGING
THE SALARY CAP SPACE IN THE NFL.

THE UNION PUT A CAP
ON HOW MUCH PLAYERS CAN MAKE
SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN EAT


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The owners lobbied for the max and restricted free agency in the 98 lockout as a response to Minnesota giving 21 year old KG $126 million

They wanted to put a ceiling on how much star players could be paid. Now of course the middle class of players benefit from it existing, but it was put on the table by the owners