The New and WOKE CIA

[NZA]

This makes no sense.

this is about as much as you ever can contribute to any discourse, unfortunately.

 

[Pressure]

this is about as much as you ever can contribute to any discourse, unfortunately.

I actually have more experience in this space than you.

You're using vauge terms like, real power, so on and so forth, but you're totally disregarding the the long term missions of many of the clandestine services.

Yet, you'll turn around speak about the ills of the establishment, so on and so forth?

If you don't think many of the careerist in these fields have power you're mistaken. Point blank period.

If only you actually lived a little.

 

[NZA]

I actually have more experience in this space than you.

You're using vauge terms like, real power, so on and so forth, but you're totally disregarding the the long term missions of many of the clandestine services.

Yet, you'll turn around speak about the ills of the establishment, so on and so forth?

If you don't think many of the careerist in these fields have power you're mistaken. Point blank period.

If only you actually lived a little.

carry on saying a whole lot of nothing

 

[Pressure]

carry on saying a whole lot of nothing

@88m3 already called you on your logical fallacy when trying to draw an equivalence to people in power with rank and file police officers.

When called on it you came with that incoherent word salad saying that the people at the CIA actually have no power.

It's one of the most incoherent arguments I've seen on here recently.

 

[NZA]

@88m3 already called you on your logical fallacy when trying to draw an equivalence to people in power with rank and file police officers.

When called on it you came with that incoherent word salad saying that the people at the CIA actually have no power.

It's one of the most incoherent arguments I've seen on here recently.

stay spicy

 

[Pressure]

stay spicy

Hopefully youve learned more about your blackness.

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the state is pretty wack culturally but im slowly establishing myself. i kinda hate the fact that i went to college here instead of trying out some place new. being born, raised, and educated in arizona might be bad for your sense of community in some ways - especially as a black man. but then again when i look at the huge ghettos and over the top treatment blacks deal with in states where the black populations are larger, i do gain some appreciation for the little bit of breathing room we can get here. arizona cacs are more concerned with mexicans than us.

im torn...

 

[NZA]

Hopefully youve learned more about your blackness.

wow. ooookkkaaayyyy. LOL

im sure the CIA will do that!

 

[Pressure]

wow. ooookkkaaayyyy. LOL

im sure the CIA will do that!

I'm not sure of the value in speaking diversity with someone who is proud they didn't grow up around black folks.

 

[NZA]

I'm not sure of the value in speaking diversity with someone who is proud they didn't grow up around black folks.

this is your intellectual honesty in a nutshell

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Also
Black Buffalo police officer fired for trying to stop chokehold wins ruling, to get pension - CNN

She won!

fukking a, I've been following that case for a while but I didn't realize the verdict had come through. Good fukking news!

That's a case that you really need to keep pushing front and center whenever people say the problem with the police is just bad apples and not systemic injustice.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'd like to say that having diverse individuals who are proud of their ethnic heritage work for the 3LA's is how to effect change in those organizations.

I'd like to say that the best way to have greater racial equity in the federal government is to have a seat at the table.

I'd like to say those things, but I'm too fukkin' jaded.

I think George Monbiot said it best. He was speaking for the corporate world but it applies much the same to government bureaucracy.


"It is an exceptional person who emerges from this process with her aims and ideals intact. Indeed it is an exceptional person who emerges from this process at all. What the corporate or institutional world wants you to do is the opposite of what you want to do. It wants a reliable tool, someone who can think, but not for herself: who can think instead for the institution. You can do what you believe only if that belief happens to coincide with the aims of the corporation, not just once, but consistently, across the years (it is a source of wonder to me how many people’s beliefs just happen to match the demands of institutional power, however those demands may twist and turn, after they’ve been in the company for a year or two).

Even intelligent, purposeful people almost immediately lose their way in such worlds. They become so busy meeting the needs of their employers and surviving in the hostile world into which they have been thrust that they have no time or energy left to develop the career path they really wanted to follow. And you have to develop it: it will not happen by itself. The idea, so often voiced by new recruits who are uncomfortable with the choice they have made, that they can reform the institution they join from within, so that it reflects their own beliefs and moral codes, is simply laughable. For all the recent guff about corporate social responsibility, corporations respond to the market and to the demands of their shareholders, not to the consciences of their employees. Even the chief executive can make a difference only at the margins: the moment her conscience interferes with the non-negotiable purpose of her company – turning a profit and boosting the value of its shares – she’s out."

Career Advice

 

[Professor Emeritus]

both applicants and heavy recruitment in academia, military, and certain private sector situations. they also approach civilians with certain skills or "access" to become assets instead of employees, which has its own benefits to them.

After 9/11 they were recruiting HEAVY from the Egyptian Christian community for arabic translators.

 

[NZA]

My wife is from the Egyptian Christian community and after 9/11 they were recruiting HEAVY from that group for arabic translators.

makes sense they would try to exploit rivals. i remember that coptic christian in LA who started making anti-islamic propaganda movies fresh out of prison and ended up causing a lot of international unrest. it's pretty smart to recruit them

 

[Corny Batman]

I think George Monbiot said it best. He was speaking for the corporate world but it applies much the same to government bureaucracy.


"It is an exceptional person who emerges from this process with her aims and ideals intact. Indeed it is an exceptional person who emerges from this process at all. What the corporate or institutional world wants you to do is the opposite of what you want to do. It wants a reliable tool, someone who can think, but not for herself: who can think instead for the institution. You can do what you believe only if that belief happens to coincide with the aims of the corporation, not just once, but consistently, across the years (it is a source of wonder to me how many people’s beliefs just happen to match the demands of institutional power, however those demands may twist and turn, after they’ve been in the company for a year or two).

Even intelligent, purposeful people almost immediately lose their way in such worlds. They become so busy meeting the needs of their employers and surviving in the hostile world into which they have been thrust that they have no time or energy left to develop the career path they really wanted to follow. And you have to develop it: it will not happen by itself. The idea, so often voiced by new recruits who are uncomfortable with the choice they have made, that they can reform the institution they join from within, so that it reflects their own beliefs and moral codes, is simply laughable. For all the recent guff about corporate social responsibility, corporations respond to the market and to the demands of their shareholders, not to the consciences of their employees. Even the chief executive can make a difference only at the margins: the moment her conscience interferes with the non-negotiable purpose of her company – turning a profit and boosting the value of its shares – she’s out."

Career Advice

Um, EXCUSE ME, but here at the CIA, we are CENTERING the LIVED EXPERIENCES of BIPOC Trans and Polysexual BODIES while we overthrow democratically elected Central American governments at the behest of capital so please check your cishet male privilege, you problematic WRECKER.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

makes sense they would try to exploit rivals. i remember that coptic christian in LA who started making anti-islamic propaganda movies fresh out of prison and ended up causing a lot of international unrest. it's pretty smart to recruit them

I know