The new generation isn’t buying the MJ propaganda

[In The Zone '98]

Did he? His ROY trophy should have been Melo's who had similar numbers while actually leading his team to the playoffs in the harder conference. Lebron hasn't won MVP or made an all defensive team in his 30s. He team hopped from great teammate to great teammate to barely get 4 championships. 1 of those championships came during a lockout season and another during a season when a literal plague was outside. 2 of those 4 rings came after he teamed up with the 2nd best player in his conference IWade) instead of competing. If only MJ went and played with Dominique and Barkley after losing to the Celts/Pistons year after year?


Bron's career is essentially the NBA version of Drake's career with the ghostwriters. A lot of smoke and mirrors went into him looking greater than he actually is (still great wit it just sayin),

Blah blah blah

Lol

 

[Remote]

This thread is embarrassing.

 

[fifth column]

He played in Cleveland for seven seasons.

Thanks for making my point.

 

[fifth column]

Did he? His ROY trophy should have been Melo's who had similar numbers while actually leading his team to the playoffs in the harder conference. Lebron hasn't won MVP or made an all defensive team in his 30s. He team hopped from great teammate to great teammate to barely get 4 championships. 1 of those championships came during a lockout season and another during a season when a literal plague was outside. 2 of those 4 rings came after he teamed up with the 2nd best player in his conference IWade) instead of competing. If only MJ went and played with Dominique and Barkley after losing to the Celts/Pistons year after year?


Bron's career is essentially the NBA version of Drake's career with the ghostwriters. A lot of smoke and mirrors went into him looking greater than he actually is (still great wit it just sayin),

I was referring specifically to him making the NBA finals in 2007 in which he played like trash so not even a flex like blind witnesses think it is.

 

[No1]

87 MJ and 19 Harden averaged more per possession, actually (and in raw numbers)

Why would you use that metric? Elaborate.

 

[No1]

Harden played 4 less MPG than Kobe and MJ - % of scoring when they're on the floor is a more accurate number. No superstar's gonna match those type of team-wide percentages anymore because they play less minutes than pre-2010s.

Some of what you say makes sense but you being a zillennial makes it hard for me to take what you’re saying seriously.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Why would you use that metric? Elaborate.

Because that's literally what dude was trying to measure, except they did it wrong. Like i said, yall don't know what half the terms yall trying to discuss even mean or indicate.

Pace = possessions. Per 100 possessions adjusts every player's stats as if they were playing the same pace and minutes and just picks 100 as a figure although 75 is a number you'd use if you wanted more realistic looking numbers (most star players usually play 75% of the game), but the outcome is the same.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Some of what you say makes sense but you being a zillennial makes it hard for me to take what you’re saying seriously.

Translation:

 

[Osmosis]

LeBron did what he was supposed to do as a generational talent ain’t nothing wrong with that, What does that have to do with MJ’s greatness?

Speaking of lottery picks, LeBron has played with 11 number 1 picks so far in his career so not sure where you going with that.

number 1 picks like a washed up Joe Smith That's the kind of help he had during his first Cleveland stint.

Meanwhile, Jordan's Bulls picked in the lottery for six years straight

 

[Art Barr]

Jordan made the playoffs when the Bulls won 30 games he played in a garbage ass era

The Cavs won 17 games the season before Lebron joined and won 50 by his third year. He made the finals in his 4th season without needing a gang of lottery picks like Jordan.

This is cap.

As bron was drafted with a super team roster and failed to galvanize them.

Plus alienated the roster and failed to make the offs.
Then shirked his natural at PG.
To become Elgin Baylor 2.o.
Who lost in back to back finals trips. As a repeat loser. Before finally winning.
While also never having any accolades near Jordan whatsoever.

As Jordan at point guard had seven triple doubles. While bron holds the record for seven straight failed triple doubles.
Plus inferior scoring.
while being the dominant physical specimen in the league

While Mike actually galvanized and singlehandidly ramped his roster.
By playing PG and near averaging a triple double.


If you try to counter with russ. Mind what you say. As russ is a Jordan brand athlete.
Where russ got the idea to average a triple double from Jordan.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

number 1 picks like a washed up Joe Smith That's the kind of help he had during his first Cleveland stint.

Meanwhile, Jordan's Bulls picked in the lottery for six years straight

Again.
Mike ramped and galvanized his talent at PG.
While bron failed to ramp every top flight guy of the era consistently in.


Marshall
Jamjson
Smith

As well as:

Thug life davis
Z
Miles
Gooden.

As well as ruining the top pedigree backcourt in NBA history.
In favor of a ncAa championship game choke artist in Kevin love.

While Mike had to galvanize and ramp pip from the fukkin naia incomparison


I can go on.
Plus more facts you incapable of disputing. As you can not dispute a fact.

All you le'elgin Baylor 2.o stans are deflection artist.

Who try to ping and state easily disputible content in this discussion.

While not even knowing the actual history or facts of what you are talembout.




Art Barr

 

[fifth column]

number 1 picks like a washed up Joe Smith That's the kind of help he had during his first Cleveland stint.

Meanwhile, Jordan's Bulls picked in the lottery for six years straight

Stop talking yourself into circles and just enjoy being a blind witness. Y’all Le40s can’t go around MJ’s greatness, shyt is drowning y’all.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

Winning 6 out 15 is saying he won 40% of the of the championships available in his career. Here's a list of all time great players who didn't get one (during seasons he was fully there and not 3 years removed from a second retirement while playing for the worst team in the the league Wizards)


Barkley
Malone
Stockton
Ewing
DRob
Gary Payton
Shaq
Dominique Wilkins
Reggie Miller

And you could arguably add Olajuwon and Drexler to that list too. Meanwhile all time greats that ate during Bron's career::

KD
Kawhi
Steph
Kobe
Duncan
Giannis
Jokic
Dirk
DWade
Shaq

With one you can make a list of greats who DIDNT win while the other you can only make a list of those who DID win. Theres no comparison



"Made them good immediately" yet they didn't make the playoffs till his 3rd year?

But the ones in Bron era are far better than MJ's era i.e tougher era

 

[kevin arnold]

They are buying it. That’s why they still rush to the mall every 60 days when the GOAT drops a shoe

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

You have a right to your opinion. Arguably, to this day, nobody has embodied that more than Kobe did, not even Jordan.

It’s widely known that Kobe’s obsession with personal development & basketball was unparalleled. People got inspired by his dedication and applied it to their daily lives.
I’m not even the biggest Kobe fan anymore, I don’t look at his life or career with rose-colored glasses, but I’m objective enough to admit those things.

And this nonsense got dapped too..