"The Newsroom" debuts tonight on HBO...Official thread

[daemonova]

lisa >>>> that bug eye'd, small face'd, twitchy, too much talkin-ass ho.

dom did that. so jim won't have to go thru that.

don't do it jim!

I finally saw what y'all were talking about in regards to lisa. I didn't see it until now. Traditionally, its hard for the larger, thicker woman to appear more attractive. Simpler feature are viewed as cosomopolitan. I don't know if it was the lighting, or makeup, or what. And Lisa was looking Some women can't have long hair, even white women.

I see what you did there

AkaDemiK Another good episode. I'm really liking this show. I'm too lazy to do a paragraph detailing the recent episode, however I still gotta say I applaud em for exposing the bullshyt media that feeds us bullshyt 24/7.

the show is pretentious and preachy as shiet though, man. That can't be denied.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Well, since the show is fictional I don't think that's a very apt analogy.

Actually, no. The show would make more sense if it were a real news show in the past reporting on these old shows well. Then it would make sense to point at these reporters and say, "This is how a great news show should be." But the show is designed in theory and ignores practicality, making it completely unreasonable and unaware of how the current world in the internet age works.

McAvoy's idea of a debate was awful. No candidate, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, would ever agree to a format like that, and for good reason. Like most ideas on the show, it works in theory but it isn't practical. Clearly you can't have moderators asking if they like Elvis or whoever the second singer was either, but there is a middle ground; one that doesn't have the moderator being the star of the show.

Another problem with the show is that Sorkin just doesn't understand the internet. A lot of the problems he wants to tackle; the prevalence of celebrity news, relying on unreliable sources, anonymity of internet users; aren't problems so much as they're just realities of an internet world. You can't get rid of Internet anonymity; people can easily break through ID via social media (Facebook) and you can't force people to use their social security number to ID themselves. The reporters always seem to know what sources are or aren't unreliable (It's funny that Will has been counted as reliable, even though he was high the night he had to report Osama's death) because, of course, it's a TV show and they're never gonna be wrong. And this world is big enough for news on Kim Jong-un and Kim Kardashian to coexist.

 

[No Sleep]

The opening music is so calming...

 

[feelosofer]

Actually, no. The show would make more sense if it were a real news show in the past reporting on these old shows well. Then it would make sense to point at these reporters and say, "This is how a great news show should be." But the show is designed in theory and ignores practicality, making it completely unreasonable and unaware of how the current world in the internet age works.

McAvoy's idea of a debate was awful. No candidate, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, would ever agree to a format like that, and for good reason. Like most ideas on the show, it works in theory but it isn't practical. Clearly you can't have moderators asking if they like Elvis or whoever the second singer was either, but there is a middle ground; one that doesn't have the moderator being the star of the show.

Another problem with the show is that Sorkin just doesn't understand the internet. A lot of the problems he wants to tackle; the prevalence of celebrity news, relying on unreliable sources, anonymity of internet users; aren't problems so much as they're just realities of an internet world. You can't get rid of Internet anonymity; people can easily break through ID via social media (Facebook) and you can't force people to use their social security number to ID themselves. The reporters always seem to know what sources are or aren't unreliable (It's funny that Will has been counted as reliable, even though he was high the night he had to report Osama's death) because, of course, it's a TV show and they're never gonna be wrong. And this world is big enough for news on Kim Jong-un and Kim Kardashian to coexist.

As someone who worked in tv media for about 15 years, the show handles the back politics very well. You would be surprised (or maybe not so much) how much corporate interests and politicians have a hold on the media. I was a producer and did set coordination, every object in on the set has it's place down to the coffee mug, which may have say for example a Disney character, it's really a trip.

Yea, that debate format was maybe a good idea, in theory, but no candidate, wants to be thrown into the frying pan in a debate and it was too far fetched. Also this is true, the internet age has thrown proper vetting and verification of sources out the window. You would be surprised how many interns thought wikipedia was a legitimate source, and I'm not talking teenagers either, I'm talking mid-20's.

But I digress, I think this is the overarching theme of this season. There is no such thing as the perfect news program and that Will's success and his idealism are on two different planes. It's difficult to do both because tele-journalism relies so heavily on engaging the viewer in the youtube age. This is what slumdog was getting at to some extent when he was trying to get stories through anonymous avatars and what not.

 

[No Sleep]

- Lisa going rogue was

- Will going at those repubs with questions

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

McAvoy's idea of a debate was awful. No candidate, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, would ever agree to a format like that, and for good reason. Like most ideas on the show, it works in theory but it isn't practical. Clearly you can't have moderators asking if they like Elvis or whoever the second singer was either, but there is a middle ground; one that doesn't have the moderator being the star of the show.

Yea, that debate format was maybe a good idea, in theory, but no candidate, wants to be thrown into the frying pan in a debate and it was too far fetched. Also this is true, the internet age has thrown proper vetting and verification of sources out the window. You would be surprised how many interns thought wikipedia was a legitimate source, and I'm not talking teenagers either, I'm talking mid-20's.

My biggest issue with the new debate format wasn't that it was far fetched, it was that they didn't bother expressing why no candidate or party would ever agree to that. They just let the young republican look like a raving idiot who is shamelessly trying to protect his candidates while the older, more reasonable republican (who just happens to be Will's friend ) agrees with it, but just doesn't want to rock the boat. Surely, the old dude should've been able to articulate why that format wouldn't be acceptable without coming off like a douchebag.

And people say this show isn't pretentious and preachy

 

[killacal]

This show worth catching up on? I haven't caught any episodes brehs

 

[yaga]

McAvoy's idea of a debate was awful. No candidate, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, would ever agree to a format like that, and for good reason.

Exactly what i was thinking.

Another problem with the show is that Sorkin just doesn't understand the internet. A lot of the problems he wants to tackle; ... anonymity of internet users; aren't problems so much as they're just realities of an internet world. You can't get rid of Internet anonymity; people can easily break through ID via social media (Facebook) and you can't force people to use their social security number to ID themselves.

That was more Will McAvoy's character having that opinion than Sorkin writing episodes like he doesn't understand the internet. And i wouldn't say they're "tackling the problem" of anonymity; they're shedding light on the issue... albeit rather poorly. (Ex. - Neal in IRC in a "troll" channel, lol. Like all the folks who fukk with people on a website will band together & consort).

 

[jwinfield]

My biggest issue with the new debate format wasn't that it was far fetched, it was that they didn't bother expressing why no candidate or party would ever agree to that. They just let the young republican look like a raving idiot who is shamelessly trying to protect his candidates while the older, more reasonable republican (who just happens to be Will's friend ) agrees with it, but just doesn't want to rock the boat. Surely, the old dude should've been able to articulate why that format wouldn't be acceptable without coming off like a douchebag.

And people say this show isn't pretentious and preachy

Did they need to explain why Bachmann wouldn't want someone to ask her what God's voice sounds like? Or any of the other questions that the moderator wouldn't let them get away with some bullshyt answer?

And yeah, the internet thing was just showing Will doesn't know shyt about the internet, he didn't even know he had a blog.

And it seems like the troll storyline is only there to show Neal's rise through the ranks, as he brought forward a story that has a chance of making it to air, and primarily, to conclude the death threat storyline.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Actually, no. The show would make more sense if it were a real news show in the past reporting on these old shows well. Then it would make sense to point at these reporters and say, "This is how a great news show should be." But the show is designed in theory and ignores practicality, making it completely unreasonable and unaware of how the current world in the internet age works.

McAvoy's idea of a debate was awful. No candidate, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, would ever agree to a format like that, and for good reason. Like most ideas on the show, it works in theory but it isn't practical. Clearly you can't have moderators asking if they like Elvis or whoever the second singer was either, but there is a middle ground; one that doesn't have the moderator being the star of the show.

Another problem with the show is that Sorkin just doesn't understand the internet. A lot of the problems he wants to tackle; the prevalence of celebrity news, relying on unreliable sources, anonymity of internet users; aren't problems so much as they're just realities of an internet world. You can't get rid of Internet anonymity; people can easily break through ID via social media (Facebook) and you can't force people to use their social security number to ID themselves. The reporters always seem to know what sources are or aren't unreliable (It's funny that Will has been counted as reliable, even though he was high the night he had to report Osama's death) because, of course, it's a TV show and they're never gonna be wrong. And this world is big enough for news on Kim Jong-un and Kim Kardashian to coexist.

for some odd reason, i have a feeling that the debate will get in there somehow. the look the two republicans gave each other at the end was like "oh maybe we should reconsider this"

 

[SLCpremium]

Fucc all dattt....the season finale was POPPINNN

 

[No1]

Fucc all dattt....the season finale was POPPINNN

That shyt had mad corny moments. The actress that plays McKenzie is annoying as fukk.

 

[heisenburrr]

season finale was weak imo

 

[Woodrow]

As someone who worked in tv media for about 15 years, the show handles the back politics very well. You would be surprised (or maybe not so much) how much corporate interests and politicians have a hold on the media. I was a producer and did set coordination, every object in on the set has it's place down to the coffee mug, which may have say for example a Disney character, it's really a trip.

Yea, that debate format was maybe a good idea, in theory, but no candidate, wants to be thrown into the frying pan in a debate and it was too far fetched. Also this is true, the internet age has thrown proper vetting and verification of sources out the window. You would be surprised how many interns thought wikipedia was a legitimate source, and I'm not talking teenagers either, I'm talking mid-20's.

But I digress, I think this is the overarching theme of this season. There is no such thing as the perfect news program and that Will's success and his idealism are on two different planes. It's difficult to do both because tele-journalism relies so heavily on engaging the viewer in the youtube age. This is what slumdog was getting at to some extent when he was trying to get stories through anonymous avatars and what not.

this.

i represent one aspect of the communication network for a substantial brand. one of th-... nah, nevermind.

anyways... u have NO IDEA how much politics, power struggles and inter-work relationships factor into what's eventually pushed out for public consumption. and what channels it's pushed out from.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

After downloading the first episode, I enjoyed it. I downloaded the 2nd episode but never watched it.. Hopefully i will catch up on in the future. Not enough people of color in it to make me want to see it.