The Official 2012 NBA Draft Talk Thread

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Probasketballdraft‏@Probballdraft

Cleveland's workout between Harrison Barnes and Brad Beal is over. Spoke to several sources and it sounds like both players performed well.

Probasketballdraft‏@Probballdraft

From the sound of things both players looked good. Cavs will have a real decision to make between the 2 but sounds like Beal has the edge.

 

[Loose]

They cant trade Harden they need his scoring..Ibakas much more expendable..

Hes an overrated defender,of course at his size and athletic ability he gonna get a few weakside blocks a game hes not a great on the ball defender and tries to block everything so he easily bites on pump fakes.

I agree both are highly overrated, hardens a terrible defender as well even worse than serge.

 

[Houston911]

They cant trade Harden they need his scoring..Ibakas much more expendable..

Hes an overrated defender,of course at his size and athletic ability he gonna get a few weakside blocks a game hes not a great on the ball defender and tries to block everything so he easily bites on pump fakes.

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ibaka is the best shot blocker in the league, he can catch, finish and hit midrange jump shots. how many bigs can do that? ibakas skillset is a lot more rare than hardens...not saying harden isnt dope, its just not a lot of good bugs

I think the Thunder's owner is rich enough to pay the luxury if he wants to, so I can see them trying to keep all 4 together.

If this were the draft with Wiggins or Randle, Harden would be escorted to the airport immediately.

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ibaka needs to work on keeping blocks inbound and his post game. I honestly dont think harden is getting as much as everyone assume's.

i just cant imagine somebody not offering harden 4 years 60 mil

 

[Loose]

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i just cant imagine somebody not offering harden 4 years 60 mil

I can, like larry bird said, a lot of gm's nowadays dont throw money at RFA's anymore because you end up overpaying for them in the long run. presti will offer harden a contract when the season is finished im sure he will take it. 4 yrs 50 and more minutes in the process, he will take that

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I agree both are highly overrated, hardens a terrible defender as well even worse than serge.

I dont disagree but you need Hardens scoring,without him it puts way too much pressure on Durant and Westbrook

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

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ibaka is the best shot blocker in the league, he can catch, finish and hit midrange jump shots. how many bigs can do that? ibakas skillset is a lot more rare than hardens...not saying harden isnt dope, its just not a lot of good bugs



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i just cant imagine somebody not offering harden 4 years 60 mil

Hes not the best shotblocker in the league he averages the most because hes a dumb defender who tries to block everything and bites on punp fakes insetad of just keeping his hands up to deter the shot

 

[Malta]

I can, like larry bird said, a lot of gm's nowadays dont throw money at RFA's anymore because you end up overpaying for them in the long run. presti will offer harden a contract when the season is finished im sure he will take it. 4 yrs 50 and more minutes in the process, he will take that

I don't know, he has the same agent as Eric Gordon. They're pressing for the max there, and Gordon/Harden are on the same level, except Harden has a much better record of health.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

If this were the draft with Wiggins or Randle, Harden would be escorted to the airport immediately.

them two nikkas scary

 

[Malta]

them two nikkas scary

I'd draft Wiggins as a junior right this second over Anthony Davis

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I'd draft Wiggins as a junior right this second over Anthony Davis

I think id draft slow ass hips Jabari Parker over Davis

What you think of Muhammed? Bit of a chucker but i think hes legit..Saw Harden comparisons but i think hes quicker and more explsoive

Hes kind of DWadeish

 

[Malta]

I think id draft slow ass hips Jabari Parker over Davis

What you think of Muhammed? Bit of a chucker but i think hes legit..Saw Harden comparisons but i think hes quicker and more explsoive

Hes kind of DWadeish

@ Slow ass hips.


Shabazz will probably average 20ppg as a rookie on some 38% shooting, but kid can score, not sure he can do much else though. I'd probably draft him first over Zeller and Noel, especially if Zeller measures out with t-rex arms like his brother.

I need to see what Steven Adams does too and if he comes out.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

@ Slow ass hips.


Shabazz will probably average 20ppg as a rookie on some 38% shooting, but kid can score, not sure he can do much else though. I'd probably draft him first over Zeller and Noel, especially if Zeller measures out with t-rex arms like his brother.

I need to see what Steven Adams does too and if he comes out.

I like Cody better then his brother hes much more skilled,his wingspan seems to be pretty impressive but who knows..

Watch the kid Polythress from UK his game smooth as hell

 

[tremonthustler1]

I can, like larry bird said, a lot of gm's nowadays dont throw money at RFA's anymore because you end up overpaying for them in the long run. presti will offer harden a contract when the season is finished im sure he will take it. 4 yrs 50 and more minutes in the process, he will take that

Teams don't throw major money at them because they know it's futile. Most RFA's stay with their teams. Kahn was talking about that when someone mentioned to him the possibility of signing RFA's this summer. He sounded real defeated saying "they'll look into it but those guys are hard to wrestle away from their teams"

 

[Houston911]

I can, like larry bird said, a lot of gm's nowadays dont throw money at RFA's anymore because you end up overpaying for them in the long run. presti will offer harden a contract when the season is finished im sure he will take it. 4 yrs 50 and more minutes in the process, he will take that

yeah, but sometimes teams will make offers out of spite or just to make a team call a bluff. like "fukk it, at least if we dont get him lets make okc overpay"

if 4 years 50 mil is considered fair for harden, i wouldnt be shocked if theirs teams who don't mind overpaying him an extra 2.5 mil per year

 

[Malta]

I like Cody better then his brother hes much more skilled,his wingspan seems to be pretty impressive but who knows..

Watch the kid Polythress from UK his game smooth as hell

I think Cody will be a starting 5, just needs to come out to 7"0 and atleast a 8"10 reach.

yeah, but sometimes teams will make offers out of spite or just to make a team call a bluff. like "fukk it, at least if we dont get him lets make okc overpay"

if 4 years 50 mil is considered fair for harden, i wouldnt be shocked if theirs teams who don't mind overpaying him an extra 2.5 mil per year

Yeah, like how the Warriors made an offer on DeAndre Jordan.

There will be a gang of teams with caproom at the end of next season as well, so the Thunder need to get him on an extension before it gets to that point.