The Official 2012 NBA Draft Talk Thread

[Malta]

smh weren't people saying that Rudy Gay was a poor man's Gerald Wallace and was why Bobcats didn't pick up Rudy. Rudy has done quiet well for himself, so that Wallace comparison to MKG ain't bad, but I think MKG will be a really good 2nd or 3rd option with the right team and have a really good NBA career imo.

The current "Rudy Gay" in this draft would be Perry Jones, he looks bad as a 4 and people question his game but if a team has the balls to let him play the 3 he could be a problem.


MKG is a good player, but his ceiling isn't that high, he does not have the game of someone being a 2nd option.

 

[Microfracture]

I'm not limiting MKG to a run of the mill perimeter defender like Tony Allen, Thabo or Ronnie Brewer but he's this year's Kawhi Leonard. Not bad at all just not a game-changer

 

[melly2times]

id feel a little bit better about MKG if he was a great athlete instead of just a good one.

 

[Henry Orbit]

smh weren't people saying that Rudy Gay was a poor man's Gerald Wallace and was why Bobcats didn't pick up Rudy. Rudy has done quiet well for himself, so that Wallace comparison to MKG ain't bad, but I think MKG will be a really good 2nd or 3rd option with the right team and have a really good NBA career imo.

That draft, it was between Rudy and Adam Morrison, but MJ liked Morrison's "passion." That was the decider (supposedly). Also, people were concerned about Rudy's desire, saying he was very passive. But those UConn teams he was on, they were deep and had upperclassmen leadership so he defered to them, although he was the most talented player.

We saw Gerald Wallace here. Although he is a good player, as your best player he can only lead you to mediocrity. It was always just barely miss the playoffs with him, or that one time they finally made it and got swept by Orlando. That's why I was cool with this scorched earth tactic they used last season cause you're rarely going to get potential franchise players here drafting 9th or 10th yearly.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

smh weren't people saying that Rudy Gay was a poor man's Gerald Wallace and was why Bobcats didn't pick up Rudy. Rudy has done quite well for himself, so that Wallace comparison to MKG ain't bad, but I think MKG will be a really good 2nd or 3rd option with the right team and have a really good NBA career imo.

Rudy Gay was far more advanced offensively in college then MKG they just questioned his heart and agressiveness..

MKG would have to transform pretty drastically his offensive game to ever become a 2nd or 3rd option..i dont see it

 

[Houston911]

smh weren't people saying that Rudy Gay was a poor man's Gerald Wallace and was why Bobcats didn't pick up Rudy. Rudy has done quite well for himself, so that Wallace comparison to MKG ain't bad, but I think MKG will be a really good 2nd or 3rd option with the right team and have a really good NBA career imo.

rudy gay was long as hell and had stupid athleticism, the knock on him was his mental and toughness.....everybody knows mkg is tough and mentally prepared, he's lacking the tools.

 

[PTBG]

The current "Rudy Gay" in this draft would be Perry Jones, he looks bad as a 4 and people question his game but if a team has the balls to let him play the 3 he could be a problem.


MKG is a good player, but his ceiling isn't that high, he does not have the game of someone being a 2nd option.

Isn't PJ3 like 6'10-6'11 ish though and too tall and slow to play the 3? But, Rudy is about 6'9 and is an athletic freak at the 3, but the problem is though is PJ3 athletic as Rudy though, as I think the only way he can play the 3 if he was mad athletic, but I don't see the team he gets selected by making him play the 3, he is too tall and teams would just try to have him use his athleticism to get by and beat other 4's that are guarding him.
To me I think if MKG does get selected by the Bobcat's he wouldn't be the right fit, but I believe the best team for MKG is the Wizards as the 3rd option behind Wall and Nene and I think MKG would do well as a good perimeter defender and can average 12-13 ppg imo, but it depends on the team he gets selected by though because I think he would be doomed with the Bobcats with the lack of talent compared to the Wizards

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

The current "Rudy Gay" in this draft would be Perry Jones, he looks bad as a 4 and people question his game but if a team has the balls to let him play the 3 he could be a problem.


MKG is a good player, but his ceiling isn't that high, he does not have the game of someone being a 2nd option.

Not a bad comparison..i think peoples perception about a player is also linked to how important he is to a team..Im not a huge Rudy gay fan but hes a talented player..part of the problem is he has to be the franchise player for the Grizzlies and he simply isnt good enough to be your best player if you want to be a contender so his flaws get exposed..

If Gay were the 3rd or 4th option on a team hed be looked at differently with less expectations..instead hell be looked at as a guy who shouldnt make near the max but will

Perry Jones if he goes to a team like the Hornets where he can blend in and not expected to carry a franchsie will probably be looked at as a steal eventually..

If he goes to say the Suns who have little to no young talent and is looked upon as somebody they want to be their franchise in a few years he my be looked at as a bust..

 

[Kid Coli]

Drummond looks like a major bust waiting to happen brehs.

 

[Malta]

Isn't PJ3 like 6'10-6'11 ish though and too tall and slow to play the 3? But, Rudy is about 6'9 and is an athletic freak at the 3, but the problem is though is PJ3 athletic as Rudy though, as I think the only way he can play the 3 if he was mad athletic, but I don't see the team he gets selected by making him play the 3, he is too tall and teams would just try to have him use his athleticism to get by and beat other 4's that are guarding him.
To me I think if MKG does get selected by the Bobcat's he wouldn't be the right fit, but I believe the best team for MKG is the Wizards as the 3rd option behind Wall and Nene and I think MKG would do well as a good perimeter defender and can average 12-13 ppg imo, but it depends on the team he gets selected by though because I think he would be doomed with the Bobcats with the lack of talent compared to the Wizards

Nah, athletically Perry is tier 1, especially for someone that is 6"11, there are several SFs that are 6"10 as well. Him playing the 3 really depends on his ability to handle the ball with pressure, the jumpshot is secondary, if he can't handle the ball nobody will play him at the 3. I think he has the athleticism to defend the 3, I don't think he can guard NBA 4s, too strong for him. The two teams he'd be a good fit on are the Raptors and Twolves, two teams with faceup bigs that need a SF that can slash & shoot in between.

Unless Wall or MKG develops a jumper that would be a pretty bad mix, to me MKG is the type of player you put next to a PG/SG that can shoot and might be a little poor on defense, since he can cover up for them.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Perry has all the physical skills Tmac did at his age except for maybe the dribble and jumper..

 

[melly2times]

MKG handle is pretty weak 2

 

[Malta]

Perry has all the physical skills Tmac did at his age except for maybe the dribble and jumper..

He and Drummond have the biggest risk-reward factor, and are the only two guys from the draft who could end up being considerably better than Davis. But, they could also be huge busts, environment will be everything for them.

 

[smARTmouf]

I like the way MKG plays...but man...he's like a garbage man on steriods...Can the kid even get his own shot? Gotta have handles for that...I was gonna compare him to Ron Artest, but Ron had handles out of St Johns..

But hey...he DOES play hard...and I'd imagine with a good work ethic he'd improve, those are probably the only reasons I'd draft him high....Plays hard, coachable, great work ethic....


I'm seeing DeAndre Jordan in Drummond right now...and Perry?...Good lord, this n|gga should be a monster, but he's not...he's that little green eyeball on Monsters Inc...

He could be the Tyrus Thomas, Warrick, cock-tease of the draft... That nikka is Carlos Rogers..

 

[Malta]

I'm seeing DeAndre Jordan in Drummond right now...and Perry?...Good lord, this n|gga should be a monster, be he's not...he's that little green eyeball on Monsters Inc...

He could be the Tyrus Thomas, Warrick, cock-tease of the draft... That nikka is Carlos Rogers..

I think Perry is the opposite of Tyrus and Warrick, in that he was legitimately a 3 coming out of HS but is so tall you basically had to play him at the 4 in college. Where as Tyrus especially wanted to convert to being a SF in the NBA because he was only 6"8 coming out, even though he had literally no perimeter skills to speak of. Tyrus just had athleticism, Perry does have 3 skills.