VegetasHairline
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This team NEEDS a PG that can play D. I'm sick of seeing opposing guards get layup after layup because our PGs ain't shyt on D.
The Official 2014 NBA Draft Talk Thread
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I didn't know the Bucks had a system 
I know.
They run that system the Hawks ran with Larry Drew uptempo motion offense. The Bucks did the same, but with worse effect due to personnel.I didn't know the Bucks had a system
Larry Drew's offense was always complete trash though. If he wasn't so focused on his crappy interpretation of Xs and Os then he would've seen that his best offensive gameplan revolved around getting Horford established as early as possible and to work from there. Instead he did very little to develop Teague, turned Joe from a fringe top 5 SG to a fraud-star, allowed Josh Smith to compete for the 3pt shootout every year, and provided a solid warm up for all of the legit contenders in the East in the playoffs. For all the talent he had in Atlanta, its hilarious to see how he couldn't crack 45 wins in the East once in 3 years.
The Bucks weren't trying to tank at all and were the most incapable and disjointed team in the league. Philly literally had a mid-season firesale like the #newmarlins and still couldn't catch those guys after losing nearly two dozen straight.
Short version, Larry Drew and his son are both
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I did not say crash was drafted by the knicks.
I said he was a similar player to an energy guy the knicks drafted.
who got no tick, and crash got tick because he was straight out of hs.
I was saying crash was just Renaldo.
as crash, only got tick, and teams were patient to allow him to develop.
as, he came out of high school.
whereas balkman, did not get the same shake of the hand because balkman was not a straight to high school guy.
if my verbiage was not clear.
it was because I was not trying to give a fukk cause it was Wallace.
art barr
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Crash went to Alabama
Crash was no pure energy guy either. One of the best wing defenders in the league for years, one of the best help defenders, rebounders at his position, brought the ball up the court and initiated offense - only thing wrong with him is that he wasted his career being loyal to the Bobcats of all teams. Dude got zero shine. If he had put up 8 boards a game, 17+ ppg, 2 blocks and 2 steals in a bigger market - he'd have been called Pippen 2.0
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
no, he would not and he is in a big market, now.
anyway, it is Gerald Wallace he is huff.
save your homer shyt, for someone who gives a fukk.
he was on the fukk'n chopcats.
when, Mr msu did not do shyt.
so somebody had to get baskets on the chop cats.
art barr
He's in a big market now? Do you even know what team he plays for now?
Now that he's only showing up to collect checks you mean? Gerald Wallace, the damned good underrated player, was effectively dead two months into the 2010-11 season before he got shipped to Portland. Dude has been receiving direct deposit and tricking dumb teams into dumb trades for the past 3 years.
"Somebody had to get buckets on the Bobcats"
Yeah - that'd mean something if he was ever at any time the go-to scorer or #1 option there
. Dude wasn't jacking up shots trying to lead his team or be a volume scorer. Come on breh 
Vonleh probably would have worked next to Boogie, but it doesn't seem like he'll be there. Maybe trade down and take Capela, or keep 8 and hope he slides and you can buy a pick.
I'm not a fan of this trade...unless the kings are just giving up on Mclemore...but I'd like to think mclemore had more value than knight..
At #8 the kings could get randle/gordon/vonleah/ or they could just trade down.
I think they would be better off resigning IT to a decent deal and bringing in someone like Collisom.
or they could do the trade with the bucks Mclemore/#8/salmons? For Sanders/Knight or mayo/Future 1st..
The kings are in need of a rim protector post defender...but they need a reliable PG and for Rudy Gay to realize he's not the star we though.
I didn't mind his system, he didn't have the personnel. I actually like the motion offense. One of my favorite due to the fact that it isn't personnel based completely. You can use this with all types of styles. Now success is personnel based but I have options.Larry Drew's offense was always complete trash though. If he wasn't so focused on his crappy interpretation of Xs and Os then he would've seen that his best offensive gameplan revolved around getting Horford established as early as possible and to work from there. Instead he did very little to develop Teague, turned Joe from a fringe top 5 SG to a fraud-star, allowed Josh Smith to compete for the 3pt shootout every year, and provided a solid warm up for all of the legit contenders in the East in the playoffs. For all the talent he had in Atlanta, its hilarious to see how he couldn't crack 45 wins in the East once in 3 years.
The Bucks weren't trying to tank at all and were the most incapable and disjointed team in the league. Philly literally had a mid-season firesale like the #newmarlins and still couldn't catch those guys after losing nearly two dozen straight.
Short version, Larry Drew and his son are both
The biggest issue with the motion offense is it requires a playmaking PG which Atlanta or Milwaukee didn't have.
Horford is a great player but his lack of ability to create his own offense without a playmaker shouldn't be understated.
Jeff really wasn't much better this year than last. He was more effective but when Al went out, he wasn't good at all till the playoffs.
Joe regression looked evident even in Brooklyn but his playoff performance rivaled his respect level this year.
Josh is Josh, I don't know what to say outside of that. I don't think Drew is a great coach but I think he's better than what many think he is right now.
I am neutral. I am not big on trading McLemore for SAC or ATL trading Dennis at all. BUT...
If there was a trade that would help both teams, this would be one.
I don't know if Mac has more value than Knight but I value McLemore more.
McLemore looks like a special kind of trash going off of last year.
His potential is what ppl like. His now is horrid.McLemore looks like a special kind of trash going off of last year.
