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Zeu$ said:
but if god knows all...why would he knowingly create satan, thats what I'm trying to get at.
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You're not getting it. He didnt create Satan like hey im going to create the devil today. Satan is a rebellious angel that wanted to be God and was kicked out of heaven. He then took it upon himself to influence humanity. Instead of just scrapping the entire humanity project God kept it going because in his perfection he can still achieve the end result despite the devils shinanigans. Those who are with God will go to him and those who are demonic, will go with the devil to burn and ultimately they will stop burning and will be utterly destroyed into oblivion. Lets stay with God.
 
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Mr. Somebody said:
You're not getting it. He didnt create Satan like hey im going to create the devil today. Satan is a rebellious angel that wanted to be God and was kicked out of heaven. He then took it upon himself to influence humanity. Instead of just scrapping the entire humanity project God kept it going because in his perfection he can still achieve the end result despite the devils shinanigans. Those who are with God will go to him and those who are demonic, will go with the devil to burn and ultimately they will stop burning and will be utterly destroyed into oblivion. Lets stay with God.
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:whew:

No obviously you don't get it. God is omniscient he knows all, this is a key component of the entire religion. How does an all knowing god knowingly create his eternal nemesis? He knew he would become the devil did he not?
 
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Zeu$ said:
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No obviously you don't get it. God is omniscient he knows all, this is a key component of the entire religion. How does an all knowing god knowingly create his eternal nemesis? He knew he would become the devil did he not?
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The devil is not Gods eternal nemesis because it is already written that he has an expiration date and will be killed. All he really does is test humanity and assist in separating value from trash. Its beautiful.
 
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Mr. Somebody said:
The devil is not Gods eternal nemesis because it is already written that he has an expiration date and will be killed. All he really does is test humanity and assist in separating value from trash. Its beautiful.
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So you really are just going to cherry pick things to answer.


answer this

He knew he would become the devil did he not?
 
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Zeu$ said:
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okay great we got this out of you. So apparently he knows lucifer becomes the instrument of mans fall from grace and still created him? explain this please.
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No problem, friend.

When adam and eve were in the garden God set up the tree of life, giving them specific instructions not to eat from it. This is God introducing Adam and Eve to free will. Giving them a choice to remain in blissful ignorance or to disobey him. Testing their loyalty.

The devil comes to eve and tells her that "they will become like Gods knowing good and evil" if she eats from the tree. She made a decision to disobey God and got what she asked for. Man was cast out of paradise and into the world where they will learn good and evil. Free will.

The fall of man was not caused by the devil. The fall of man, was caused, by man. The devil cant MAKE you do ANYTHING. He is a liar who hates your guts so he gives you alternatives to God that are appealing but hidden in them are demonic pitfalls that will often crush you, sometimes now and sometimes later. Still, the choice is always on you to fall.

Ultimately, from these decisions people from this demonic world who have maintained a strong relationship with God will be chosen to be with God in his kingdom. This will be a strong group because they now know good and evil but have made the right decisions to resist the demonic, keep God in their heart and or to repent for the wrong they have done

What is free will, without a choice? Its so demonic, friend? :sitdown:
 
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Mr. Somebody said:
Angel who refused to bow down to god creation, man and wanted to basically be the boss so he was cast out of heaven. He then took it upon himself to influence humanity but in turn set of a chain of events that will prove as a test for man and to determine who in humanity will be non-demonic enough to get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Those who chose the devil will be destroyed along with him on the last day.

There was a mutiny in heaven when angels saw how fine human women were so many of them took human forms so they could sleep with human women. Because of all this, on top of the fact that the devil had basically turned most people against God, God did the first great flood that wiped away most of his work.
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Calling on his name and screaming hallelujah, when he hardly knew ya, that's how the devils fooled ya, see look into my eyes brethren, that's the lies of a reverend, why should you die to go to heaven? the earth is already in space...
 
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